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bob wald
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:02 pm    Post subject: car batteries Reply with quote

WHATS a great battery under $100???
any1 use energizer car batters?

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Chad Wahls
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

"bob wald" <bob36swmla@webtv.net> wrote in message
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WHATS a great battery under $100???
any1 use energizer car batters?


Kinda, For standard issue batteries I have always had good luck with
die-hards and Sears' great warranties.

I have an Energizer in the lawn tractor, we will see how it does over the
winter :)
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Spike
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:22:48 -0600, "Chad Wahls" <cwahls@uiuc.edu>
wrote:

Quote:

"bob wald" <bob36swmla@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:3862-43679199-498@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net...
WHATS a great battery under $100???
any1 use energizer car batters?


Kinda, For standard issue batteries I have always had good luck with
die-hards and Sears' great warranties.

I have an Energizer in the lawn tractor, we will see how it does over the
winter :)

Batteries, like any other branded item, has it's supporters and

detractors. Personally, I've used Diehards since the very early 70s,
but I've heard others knock them.

IIRC, there are really only about three companies that make batteries
in the USA (like Union Carbide), and they send them out under a great
many different brand names. A user could be knocking a battery brand
and raving about another, and they are both made by the same company.

The Die Hard used to be one battery. Today, it comes in different
levels (Gold it the best I think, IIRC).

I think it's how well the company you buy from backs up it's warrantee
that counts for a lot. Sears used to be really good. In fact, they
used to exchange batteries 'no questions asked'. From what i hear, now
you have to fight with them.

My last battery, I purchased from COSTCO, and it was great (sold the
car, so it may have died the next day).
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Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg
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Spike
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

On 1 Nov 2005 18:49:39 -0800, "Chad Wahls" <cwahls@uiuc.edu> wrote:

Quote:
Have several now :) Bought some surplus Dynage pulse chargers, very
cheap, very effective. Now I just gotta get power out to the barn :(
Summer ended too early!
Hmmmmm Power to the barn.... let's see, got any cows? They produce

methane. light a cow butts, boil water, create steam, turn turbine,
produce electricity.... : 0 ) or... Long extension cord?
--
Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg
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Chad Wahls
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

I just put a 10 year old DieHard gold to rest. Not bad, I think it
actually ended it's live early due to the fact that the vehicle became
a weekend warrior and not charged properly via every day use.

Chad
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Spike
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

On 1 Nov 2005 17:02:54 -0800, "Chad Wahls" <cwahls@uiuc.edu> wrote:

Quote:
I just put a 10 year old DieHard gold to rest. Not bad, I think it
actually ended it's live early due to the fact that the vehicle became
a weekend warrior and not charged properly via every day use.

Chad
That is where one of the battery tenders comes in... I kinda like the

Battery Tender Jr as a permanent install, so all I have to do it plug
it in; no dragging it out of the tool bin, etc.And the price is pretty
good.
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Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg
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Chad Wahls
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

Have several now :) Bought some surplus Dynage pulse chargers, very
cheap, very effective. Now I just gotta get power out to the barn :(
Summer ended too early!
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Chad Wahls
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:31 pm    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

"Spike" <jma@snowcrest.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On 1 Nov 2005 18:49:39 -0800, "Chad Wahls" <cwahls@uiuc.edu> wrote:

Have several now :) Bought some surplus Dynage pulse chargers, very
cheap, very effective. Now I just gotta get power out to the barn :(
Summer ended too early!
Hmmmmm Power to the barn.... let's see, got any cows? They produce
methane. light a cow butts, boil water, create steam, turn turbine,
produce electricity.... : 0 ) or... Long extension cord?


It would have to be about a 400' extension cord :)

No cows.

I have a 200A service in the house that feeds the house/garage#1/shop. I
need to go 400A and give the shop an extra 100A, the barn some power and
garage#2 power. The house has electric heat so the box is FULL of dual pole
breakers. No room for a break off to the barn. That and I don't look
forward to trenching 400' of wire! I'll wait till spring when the ground is
soft, we had a heck of a drought here this summer and the ground was like
concrete!

Chad
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Spike
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:45 am    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:31:13 -0600, "Chad Wahls" <cwahls@uiuc.edu>
wrote:

Quote:

"Spike" <jma@snowcrest.net> wrote in message
news:r8cgm1dgueqin8gnn8hufkd48u9p08v7ef@4ax.com...
On 1 Nov 2005 18:49:39 -0800, "Chad Wahls" <cwahls@uiuc.edu> wrote:

Have several now :) Bought some surplus Dynage pulse chargers, very
cheap, very effective. Now I just gotta get power out to the barn :(
Summer ended too early!
Hmmmmm Power to the barn.... let's see, got any cows? They produce
methane. light a cow butts, boil water, create steam, turn turbine,
produce electricity.... : 0 ) or... Long extension cord?


It would have to be about a 400' extension cord :)

No cows.

I have a 200A service in the house that feeds the house/garage#1/shop. I
need to go 400A and give the shop an extra 100A, the barn some power and
garage#2 power. The house has electric heat so the box is FULL of dual pole
breakers. No room for a break off to the barn. That and I don't look
forward to trenching 400' of wire! I'll wait till spring when the ground is
soft, we had a heck of a drought here this summer and the ground was like
concrete!

Chad

Break out the Google search and look up Tesla for power transmission

without wires.... claimed he could do it : 0 )

Of course there's always wind power and solar power. At least around
here you'd get a rebate for switching to clean generation.

Of course, we now have "forests" of propellers on the hillsides, with
blades they say you can walk inside. And fields of mirrors
concentrating sunlight on a water tower.

Tried to figure how to run an extension to the car. The wind tower
reeled it back in like a fishing reel. Tried the mirror idea and it
kept melting the car. Guess a thermos of water wasn't enough. Oh,
well, back to the drawing board.
--
Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:16 am    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

"Spike" <jma@snowcrest.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 10:31:13 -0600, "Chad Wahls" <cwahls@uiuc.edu
wrote:


"Spike" <jma@snowcrest.net> wrote in message
news:r8cgm1dgueqin8gnn8hufkd48u9p08v7ef@4ax.com...
On 1 Nov 2005 18:49:39 -0800, "Chad Wahls" <cwahls@uiuc.edu> wrote:

Have several now :) Bought some surplus Dynage pulse chargers, very
cheap, very effective. Now I just gotta get power out to the barn :(
Summer ended too early!
Hmmmmm Power to the barn.... let's see, got any cows? They produce
methane. light a cow butts, boil water, create steam, turn turbine,
produce electricity.... : 0 ) or... Long extension cord?


It would have to be about a 400' extension cord :)

No cows.

I have a 200A service in the house that feeds the house/garage#1/shop. I
need to go 400A and give the shop an extra 100A, the barn some power and
garage#2 power. The house has electric heat so the box is FULL of dual
pole
breakers. No room for a break off to the barn. That and I don't look
forward to trenching 400' of wire! I'll wait till spring when the ground
is
soft, we had a heck of a drought here this summer and the ground was like
concrete!

Chad

Break out the Google search and look up Tesla for power transmission
without wires.... claimed he could do it : 0 )

Of course there's always wind power and solar power. At least around
here you'd get a rebate for switching to clean generation.

Of course, we now have "forests" of propellers on the hillsides, with
blades they say you can walk inside. And fields of mirrors
concentrating sunlight on a water tower.

Tried to figure how to run an extension to the car. The wind tower
reeled it back in like a fishing reel. Tried the mirror idea and it
kept melting the car. Guess a thermos of water wasn't enough. Oh,
well, back to the drawing board.
--


I actually did solar charging for a long time for the 12V bench test power
and amatuer radio power. I sold the rig when I moved, Got more than I paid!
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NeedforSwede2
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

In article <dkapki$7e8$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>, cwahls@uiuc.edu says...
Quote:
I have a 200A service in the house that feeds the house/garage#1/shop. I
need to go 400A and give the shop an extra 100A, the barn some power and
garage#2 power. The house has electric heat so the box is FULL of dual pole
breakers. No room for a break off to the barn. That and I don't look
forward to trenching 400' of wire! I'll wait till spring when the ground is
soft, we had a heck of a drought here this summer and the ground was like
concrete!

How about a Diesel Generator run on Veg oil?

--
Carl Robson
Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz
Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com
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Chad Wahls
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:25 am    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

"NeedforSwede2" <carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dd40a2127a892aa98972e@news.individual.net...
Quote:
In article <dkapki$7e8$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>, cwahls@uiuc.edu says...
I have a 200A service in the house that feeds the house/garage#1/shop. I
need to go 400A and give the shop an extra 100A, the barn some power and
garage#2 power. The house has electric heat so the box is FULL of dual
pole
breakers. No room for a break off to the barn. That and I don't look
forward to trenching 400' of wire! I'll wait till spring when the ground
is
soft, we had a heck of a drought here this summer and the ground was like
concrete!

How about a Diesel Generator run on Veg oil?
--
Don't do enough deep fat frying :) No resturant within 20 miles.


Chad
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Spike
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 11:51:36 -0000, NeedforSwede2
<carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote:

Quote:
In article <dkapki$7e8$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>, cwahls@uiuc.edu says...
I have a 200A service in the house that feeds the house/garage#1/shop. I
need to go 400A and give the shop an extra 100A, the barn some power and
garage#2 power. The house has electric heat so the box is FULL of dual pole
breakers. No room for a break off to the barn. That and I don't look
forward to trenching 400' of wire! I'll wait till spring when the ground is
soft, we had a heck of a drought here this summer and the ground was like
concrete!

How about a Diesel Generator run on Veg oil?
It turns my stomach to drive down hamburger joint row in the

summer.... I really don't think I want to power anything I'm going to
be around with that stuff....
--
Spike
1965 Ford Mustang Fastback 2+2, Vintage Burgundy
w/Black Std Interior, A Code 289 C4 Trac-Lok;
Vintage 40 16" rims w/225/50ZR16 KDWS BF Goodrich
gForce Radial T/As, Cobra drop; surround sound
audio-video...
See my ride at....
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/003_May_21_3004.jpg
Feb 2004- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/005_May_21_2004.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/davescar_7_11_05_002.jpg
Jul 2005- http://207.36.208.198/albums/86810/Engine_rebuild_006.jpg
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

In article <hbbqm1pcnv7la3h88l8gchjo3ianda7gin@4ax.com>,
jma@snowcrest.net says...
Quote:
It turns my stomach to drive down hamburger joint row in the
summer.... I really don't think I want to power anything I'm going to
be around with that stuff....

Actually, it smells nicer than raw plain diesel fumes, runs cleaner and

lubes the engine better too.
--
Carl Robson
Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz
Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com
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NeedforSwede2
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: car batteries Reply with quote

In article <dkdrof$5q4$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>, cwahls@uiuc.edu says...
Quote:

"NeedforSwede2" <carl.robson@bouncing-czechs.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1dd40a2127a892aa98972e@news.individual.net...
In article <dkapki$7e8$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>, cwahls@uiuc.edu says...
I have a 200A service in the house that feeds the house/garage#1/shop. I
need to go 400A and give the shop an extra 100A, the barn some power and
garage#2 power. The house has electric heat so the box is FULL of dual
pole
breakers. No room for a break off to the barn. That and I don't look
forward to trenching 400' of wire! I'll wait till spring when the ground
is
soft, we had a heck of a drought here this summer and the ground was like
concrete!

How about a Diesel Generator run on Veg oil?
--
Don't do enough deep fat frying :) No resturant within 20 miles.

Chad



Actually in the UK, as long as you don't tell "The Man" it is far

cheaper to use new clean Veg oil as a road vehicle diesel alternative,
usually with a specialist conversion, or as a 50/50 mix with Dino
diesel.

As a generator fuel you probably wouldn't even need to pay the tax that
you normally would a road fuel (under UK law anyway).
--
Carl Robson
Car PC Build starts again. http://smallr.com/rz
Homepage: http://www.bouncing-czechs.com
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