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John
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Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:56 am Post subject:
Cyberhome Model CH-DVD 320 Player |
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I found a wonderful, low cost, DVD player which plays most every type
of DVD including all of the ones I have "burned" including DVD+R.
I have played with most types of players trying them all including
ones from Magnavox and others which indicate in their specs that they
play "burned" types of DVD's. But the Cyberhome unit is the only one I
have found which actuall does what it proports to do. Some of the
others, when you read the "fine print" tell you they willo play DVD's
burned using MPG format. When I dupe, I use the original .vob file
format which the #320 reads everytime.
This model has been out of stock nationwide (USA) since before
Christmas. But it is now back in stock (found mine at Target today -
even on sale at $34.95) ready to play.
John
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Mike S.
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Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject:
Re: Cyberhome Model CH-DVD 320 Player |
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In article <ia2n21dhi373q197lsc1tcoi38pf31nesr@4ax.com>,
John <aljon5@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I found a wonderful, low cost, DVD player which plays most every type
of DVD including all of the ones I have "burned" including DVD+R.
I have played with most types of players trying them all including
ones from Magnavox and others which indicate in their specs that they
play "burned" types of DVD's. But the Cyberhome unit is the only one I
have found which actuall does what it proports to do. Some of the
others, when you read the "fine print" tell you they willo play DVD's
burned using MPG format. When I dupe, I use the original .vob file
format which the #320 reads everytime.
This model has been out of stock nationwide (USA) since before
Christmas. But it is now back in stock (found mine at Target today -
even on sale at $34.95) ready to play.
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This is the same hardware as the CH-DVD300 that is sold everywhere else
(e.g. Best Buy) for the same basic price. The 320 is Target's
private-label model number, which exists solely to protect against price
matching discount wars.
It's a decent player for the money; just don't expect it to last too long.
Among other things, the power supply tends to suffer from "Chinese
capacitor syndrome" which is made all the worse by the fact that the front
power switch is really a "standby" switch which does not stop current from
flowing through the power supply - thus accelerating its failure merely by
being plugged in. |
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Mike S.
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Posted:
Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:37 am Post subject:
Re: Cyberhome Model CH-DVD 320 Player |
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In article <mn.3b8e7d53e228cff8.1980@nobody.invalid>,
Gene E. Bloch <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> wrote:
| Quote: | On 3/7/2005, Mike S. managed to type:
In article <ia2n21dhi373q197lsc1tcoi38pf31nesr@4ax.com>,
John <aljon5@yahoo.com> wrote:
I found a wonderful, low cost, DVD player which plays most every type
of DVD including all of the ones I have "burned" including DVD+R.
I have played with most types of players trying them all including
ones from Magnavox and others which indicate in their specs that they
play "burned" types of DVD's. But the Cyberhome unit is the only one I
have found which actuall does what it proports to do. Some of the
others, when you read the "fine print" tell you they willo play DVD's
burned using MPG format. When I dupe, I use the original .vob file
format which the #320 reads everytime.
This model has been out of stock nationwide (USA) since before
Christmas. But it is now back in stock (found mine at Target today -
even on sale at $34.95) ready to play.
This is the same hardware as the CH-DVD300 that is sold everywhere else
(e.g. Best Buy) for the same basic price. The 320 is Target's
private-label model number, which exists solely to protect against price
matching discount wars.
It's a decent player for the money; just don't expect it to last too long.
Among other things, the power supply tends to suffer from "Chinese
capacitor syndrome" which is made all the worse by the fact that the front
power switch is really a "standby" switch which does not stop current from
flowing through the power supply - thus accelerating its failure merely by
being plugged in.
Any device that responds to a remote control when it is nominally off
has this property. How could it be otherwise?
That amounts to just about every home-entertainment device you can buy
today.
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True. However, most other home-entertainment devices have power supplies
that use components of reasonable quality, so the constant current load is
not particularly damaging.
With the CH-DVD300/320, the Pangu and Achme power supplies used in different
varieties of this player have used cheap capacitors that leak and go bad
when powered for a year or so. The fact that they are always "live" merely
accelerates the process. This is why there are web sites devoted
specifically to rescuing Cyberhome DVD players having failed power
supplies.
There are other ways this player fail too ... for instance, on some
varieties the ribbon cable going to the pickup is too short and badly
routed, so eventually the conductors crack and it becomes intermittent. |
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Gene E. Bloch
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Posted:
Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:10 am Post subject:
Re: Cyberhome Model CH-DVD 320 Player |
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On 3/7/2005, Mike S. managed to type:
| Quote: | In article <ia2n21dhi373q197lsc1tcoi38pf31nesr@4ax.com>,
John <aljon5@yahoo.com> wrote:
I found a wonderful, low cost, DVD player which plays most every type
of DVD including all of the ones I have "burned" including DVD+R.
I have played with most types of players trying them all including
ones from Magnavox and others which indicate in their specs that they
play "burned" types of DVD's. But the Cyberhome unit is the only one I
have found which actuall does what it proports to do. Some of the
others, when you read the "fine print" tell you they willo play DVD's
burned using MPG format. When I dupe, I use the original .vob file
format which the #320 reads everytime.
This model has been out of stock nationwide (USA) since before
Christmas. But it is now back in stock (found mine at Target today -
even on sale at $34.95) ready to play.
This is the same hardware as the CH-DVD300 that is sold everywhere else
(e.g. Best Buy) for the same basic price. The 320 is Target's
private-label model number, which exists solely to protect against price
matching discount wars.
It's a decent player for the money; just don't expect it to last too long.
Among other things, the power supply tends to suffer from "Chinese
capacitor syndrome" which is made all the worse by the fact that the front
power switch is really a "standby" switch which does not stop current from
flowing through the power supply - thus accelerating its failure merely by
being plugged in.
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Any device that responds to a remote control when it is nominally off
has this property. How could it be otherwise?
That amounts to just about every home-entertainment device you can buy
today.
Gino
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Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") |
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Mike S.
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Posted:
Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:38 am Post subject:
Re: Cyberhome Model CH-DVD 320 Player |
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In article <mn.42d47d530afe3bae.1980@nobody.invalid>,
Gene E. Bloch <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> wrote:
| Quote: | On 3/7/2005, Mike S. managed to type:
In article <mn.3b8e7d53e228cff8.1980@nobody.invalid>,
Gene E. Bloch <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> wrote:
On 3/7/2005, Mike S. managed to type:
In article <ia2n21dhi373q197lsc1tcoi38pf31nesr@4ax.com>,
John <aljon5@yahoo.com> wrote:
I found a wonderful, low cost, DVD player which plays most every type
of DVD including all of the ones I have "burned" including DVD+R.
I have played with most types of players trying them all including
ones from Magnavox and others which indicate in their specs that they
play "burned" types of DVD's. But the Cyberhome unit is the only one I
have found which actuall does what it proports to do. Some of the
others, when you read the "fine print" tell you they willo play DVD's
burned using MPG format. When I dupe, I use the original .vob file
format which the #320 reads everytime.
This model has been out of stock nationwide (USA) since before
Christmas. But it is now back in stock (found mine at Target today -
even on sale at $34.95) ready to play.
This is the same hardware as the CH-DVD300 that is sold everywhere else
(e.g. Best Buy) for the same basic price. The 320 is Target's
private-label model number, which exists solely to protect against price
matching discount wars.
It's a decent player for the money; just don't expect it to last too long.
Among other things, the power supply tends to suffer from "Chinese
capacitor syndrome" which is made all the worse by the fact that the front
power switch is really a "standby" switch which does not stop current from
flowing through the power supply - thus accelerating its failure merely by
being plugged in.
Any device that responds to a remote control when it is nominally off
has this property. How could it be otherwise?
That amounts to just about every home-entertainment device you can buy
today.
True. However, most other home-entertainment devices have power supplies
that use components of reasonable quality, so the constant current load is
not particularly damaging.
With the CH-DVD300/320, the Pangu and Achme power supplies used in different
varieties of this player have used cheap capacitors that leak and go bad
when powered for a year or so. The fact that they are always "live" merely
accelerates the process. This is why there are web sites devoted
specifically to rescuing Cyberhome DVD players having failed power
supplies.
There are other ways this player fail too ... for instance, on some
varieties the ribbon cable going to the pickup is too short and badly
routed, so eventually the conductors crack and it becomes intermittent.
OK. Sounds like a deal - a bad deal :-)
It looks like I misplaced the emphasis in reading your post - sorry.
Perhaps I should check the capacitors and ribbon cables in my
skull...That's not even a joke - right now I have a sharp pain between
my shoulder blades from a pinched ribbon cable in my neck (referred
pain). Luckily, it doesn't affect my sense of humor.
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If you (as I do) tend to hold onto electronics for a long time, it's often
the capacitors that age and die before other components. Bu they _are_
usually expected to last more than a year :-)
This was a high-profile issue a couple of years ago, when some computer
board manufacturers used cheap Chinese capacitors that also failed. If I
remember the story, it was a case of industrial espionage gone bad. One
manufacturer thought they had stolen a good formula for electrolyte from
another, and used it on thousands of capacitors that were later
incoporated into boards sold around the world. THEN they discovered that
the formula they stole was a defective one that broke down over time ...
as did their capacitors! |
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Gene E. Bloch
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Posted:
Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:04 am Post subject:
Re: Cyberhome Model CH-DVD 320 Player |
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On 3/7/2005, Mike S. managed to type:
| Quote: | In article <mn.3b8e7d53e228cff8.1980@nobody.invalid>,
Gene E. Bloch <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> wrote:
On 3/7/2005, Mike S. managed to type:
In article <ia2n21dhi373q197lsc1tcoi38pf31nesr@4ax.com>,
John <aljon5@yahoo.com> wrote:
I found a wonderful, low cost, DVD player which plays most every type
of DVD including all of the ones I have "burned" including DVD+R.
I have played with most types of players trying them all including
ones from Magnavox and others which indicate in their specs that they
play "burned" types of DVD's. But the Cyberhome unit is the only one I
have found which actuall does what it proports to do. Some of the
others, when you read the "fine print" tell you they willo play DVD's
burned using MPG format. When I dupe, I use the original .vob file
format which the #320 reads everytime.
This model has been out of stock nationwide (USA) since before
Christmas. But it is now back in stock (found mine at Target today -
even on sale at $34.95) ready to play.
This is the same hardware as the CH-DVD300 that is sold everywhere else
(e.g. Best Buy) for the same basic price. The 320 is Target's
private-label model number, which exists solely to protect against price
matching discount wars.
It's a decent player for the money; just don't expect it to last too long.
Among other things, the power supply tends to suffer from "Chinese
capacitor syndrome" which is made all the worse by the fact that the front
power switch is really a "standby" switch which does not stop current from
flowing through the power supply - thus accelerating its failure merely by
being plugged in.
Any device that responds to a remote control when it is nominally off
has this property. How could it be otherwise?
That amounts to just about every home-entertainment device you can buy
today.
True. However, most other home-entertainment devices have power supplies
that use components of reasonable quality, so the constant current load is
not particularly damaging.
With the CH-DVD300/320, the Pangu and Achme power supplies used in different
varieties of this player have used cheap capacitors that leak and go bad
when powered for a year or so. The fact that they are always "live" merely
accelerates the process. This is why there are web sites devoted
specifically to rescuing Cyberhome DVD players having failed power
supplies.
There are other ways this player fail too ... for instance, on some
varieties the ribbon cable going to the pickup is too short and badly
routed, so eventually the conductors crack and it becomes intermittent.
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OK. Sounds like a deal - a bad deal :-)
It looks like I misplaced the emphasis in reading your post - sorry.
Perhaps I should check the capacitors and ribbon cables in my
skull...That's not even a joke - right now I have a sharp pain between
my shoulder blades from a pinched ribbon cable in my neck (referred
pain). Luckily, it doesn't affect my sense of humor.
Gino
--
Gene E. Bloch (Gino)
letters617blochg3251
(replace the numbers by "at" and "dotcom") |
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Mike S.
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Posted:
Sat Mar 19, 2005 1:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Cyberhome Model CH-DVD 320 Player |
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In article <OoKdnRHPcsL4cabfRVn-qQ@comcast.com>,
Steven de Mena <usenet@stevedemena.com> wrote:
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"Mike S." <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote in message
news:d0is56$fai$1@reader1.panix.com...
In article <mn.3b8e7d53e228cff8.1980@nobody.invalid>,
Gene E. Bloch <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> wrote:
On 3/7/2005, Mike S. managed to type:
In article <ia2n21dhi373q197lsc1tcoi38pf31nesr@4ax.com>,
John <aljon5@yahoo.com> wrote:
I found a wonderful, low cost, DVD player which plays most every type
of DVD including all of the ones I have "burned" including DVD+R.
I have played with most types of players trying them all including
ones from Magnavox and others which indicate in their specs that they
play "burned" types of DVD's. But the Cyberhome unit is the only one I
have found which actuall does what it proports to do. Some of the
others, when you read the "fine print" tell you they willo play DVD's
burned using MPG format. When I dupe, I use the original .vob file
format which the #320 reads everytime.
This model has been out of stock nationwide (USA) since before
Christmas. But it is now back in stock (found mine at Target today -
even on sale at $34.95) ready to play.
This is the same hardware as the CH-DVD300 that is sold everywhere else
(e.g. Best Buy) for the same basic price. The 320 is Target's
private-label model number, which exists solely to protect against price
matching discount wars.
It's a decent player for the money; just don't expect it to last too
long.
Among other things, the power supply tends to suffer from "Chinese
capacitor syndrome" which is made all the worse by the fact that the
front
power switch is really a "standby" switch which does not stop current
from
flowing through the power supply - thus accelerating its failure merely
by
being plugged in.
Any device that responds to a remote control when it is nominally off
has this property. How could it be otherwise?
That amounts to just about every home-entertainment device you can buy
today.
True. However, most other home-entertainment devices have power supplies
that use components of reasonable quality, so the constant current load is
not particularly damaging.
With the CH-DVD300/320, the Pangu and Achme power supplies used in
different
varieties of this player have used cheap capacitors that leak and go bad
when powered for a year or so. The fact that they are always "live" merely
accelerates the process. This is why there are web sites devoted
specifically to rescuing Cyberhome DVD players having failed power
supplies.
It's $35. Why would someone waste their time reading web sites and trying to
determine how to rescue a burned out unit. Just throw it out and buy
something the same or better for $35.
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I didn't go looking for it. I searched for region hack and Macrovision
defeat information, and the sites that discussed these often were filled
to the brim with failure reports as well. |
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Steven de Mena
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Posted:
Sat Mar 19, 2005 2:09 pm Post subject:
Re: Cyberhome Model CH-DVD 320 Player |
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"Mike S." <retsuhcs@xinap.moc> wrote in message
news:d0is56$fai$1@reader1.panix.com...
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In article <mn.3b8e7d53e228cff8.1980@nobody.invalid>,
Gene E. Bloch <hamburger@NOT_SPAM.invalid> wrote:
On 3/7/2005, Mike S. managed to type:
In article <ia2n21dhi373q197lsc1tcoi38pf31nesr@4ax.com>,
John <aljon5@yahoo.com> wrote:
I found a wonderful, low cost, DVD player which plays most every type
of DVD including all of the ones I have "burned" including DVD+R.
I have played with most types of players trying them all including
ones from Magnavox and others which indicate in their specs that they
play "burned" types of DVD's. But the Cyberhome unit is the only one I
have found which actuall does what it proports to do. Some of the
others, when you read the "fine print" tell you they willo play DVD's
burned using MPG format. When I dupe, I use the original .vob file
format which the #320 reads everytime.
This model has been out of stock nationwide (USA) since before
Christmas. But it is now back in stock (found mine at Target today -
even on sale at $34.95) ready to play.
This is the same hardware as the CH-DVD300 that is sold everywhere else
(e.g. Best Buy) for the same basic price. The 320 is Target's
private-label model number, which exists solely to protect against price
matching discount wars.
It's a decent player for the money; just don't expect it to last too
long.
Among other things, the power supply tends to suffer from "Chinese
capacitor syndrome" which is made all the worse by the fact that the
front
power switch is really a "standby" switch which does not stop current
from
flowing through the power supply - thus accelerating its failure merely
by
being plugged in.
Any device that responds to a remote control when it is nominally off
has this property. How could it be otherwise?
That amounts to just about every home-entertainment device you can buy
today.
True. However, most other home-entertainment devices have power supplies
that use components of reasonable quality, so the constant current load is
not particularly damaging.
With the CH-DVD300/320, the Pangu and Achme power supplies used in
different
varieties of this player have used cheap capacitors that leak and go bad
when powered for a year or so. The fact that they are always "live" merely
accelerates the process. This is why there are web sites devoted
specifically to rescuing Cyberhome DVD players having failed power
supplies.
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It's $35. Why would someone waste their time reading web sites and trying to
determine how to rescue a burned out unit. Just throw it out and buy
something the same or better for $35.
We've had a CH-DVD300 for a year or so, no problems, and also it does
PAL->NTSC conversion.
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