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Brian
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:40 pm Post subject:
All my DVD's going bad ????? |
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I've got a real problem here....... I've been noticing that alot of my recorded DVD's are
pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I record a disc, either in my Sony 510 recorder
or my NEC 2500 recorder, I do a scan with DVDInfoPro and they usually test perfect with no bad
blocks. I watch them within a few days of when I record them and have never had a problem in the
over 400 movies i've recorded. However lately it seems like every recorded disc over 6 months old
is either pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I scan them with DVDInfoPro again or
CD/DVD Speed Scan Disc, these discs have numurous errors and unreadable blocks, no matter what
recorder or dvd-rom i scan them with. The discs vary in brand, I have Verbatems, TDK's, Princo's,
Fuji (Taiwan), CMC's and Riteks. As I said earlier, When recorded, these discs scanned and played
perfectly so I doubt it's the 2 recorders. I store them in jewel cases in my home office. Now I
have a ton of Princo and CMC CD's which I recorded several years ago and I've scanned random discs
and none have shown any errors. Today, I scanned around 8 random age recorded DVD's and every one
has unreadable blocks. Now this really sucks BIG time !!!!!! Are all these discs prone to short
term failure ????? I can't believe I'm the only one noticing this problem but I haven't seem
mention of it in these newsgroups. Have I wasted hundreds of dollars on media which won't last
beyond a few months ????? Is anyone else getting these failures ????
Thank you
Brian
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ElJerid
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Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:56 pm Post subject:
Re: All my DVD's going bad ????? |
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"Brian" <unisaw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I've got a real problem here....... I've been noticing that alot of my
recorded DVD's are
pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I record a disc, either
in my Sony 510 recorder
or my NEC 2500 recorder, I do a scan with DVDInfoPro and they usually test
perfect with no bad
blocks. I watch them within a few days of when I record them and have
never had a problem in the
over 400 movies i've recorded. However lately it seems like every
recorded disc over 6 months old
is either pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I scan them
with DVDInfoPro again or
CD/DVD Speed Scan Disc, these discs have numurous errors and unreadable
blocks, no matter what
recorder or dvd-rom i scan them with. The discs vary in brand, I have
Verbatems, TDK's, Princo's,
Fuji (Taiwan), CMC's and Riteks. As I said earlier, When recorded, these
discs scanned and played
perfectly so I doubt it's the 2 recorders. I store them in jewel cases in
my home office. Now I
have a ton of Princo and CMC CD's which I recorded several years ago and
I've scanned random discs
and none have shown any errors. Today, I scanned around 8 random age
recorded DVD's and every one
has unreadable blocks. Now this really sucks BIG time !!!!!! Are all
these discs prone to short
term failure ????? I can't believe I'm the only one noticing this problem
but I haven't seem
mention of it in these newsgroups. Have I wasted hundreds of dollars on
media which won't last
beyond a few months ????? Is anyone else getting these failures ????
Thank you
Brian
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I asked to 3 or 4 friends who recorded a lot of dvd's. All of them including
myself encounter the same problem randomly. I've seen a in-depth article
about this topic in a Dutch magazine where they named the actual dvd
production a real nightmare. There are only a few dvd (generally unknown)
manufacturers who sell their products to many brands. The only way to find
out what you buy is to read the very small digits on the dvd (unfortunally,
this is only possible AFTER the purchase). Those will tell you who the
manufacturer is and what quality standard was used.
I can tell you for exemple that I recently purchased 2 boxes of 10 Memorex
dvd's. 7 out of 10 of one box could not be read after burning, while all of
the other box were ok. The boxes were purchased together in an identical
packaging. After checking the numbers and compare them with the information,
I found out that the boxes came from different manufactures. I had a similar
story with TDK...
And this happened only 30 minutes after burning !
The conclusion is that self burned (opto magnetic) dvd's have very low
quality, but that some are a little better than others. For commercial dvd's
another burning process is used (pressing) and this works perfectly.
For me the recordable dvd business for consumers is pure theft ! |
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Jon Purkey
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Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:16 am Post subject:
Re: All my DVD's going bad ????? |
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:40:20 -0500, Brian <unisaw@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I've got a real problem here....... I've been noticing that alot of my recorded DVD's are
pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I record a disc, either in my Sony 510 recorder
or my NEC 2500 recorder, I do a scan with DVDInfoPro and they usually test perfect with no bad
blocks. I watch them within a few days of when I record them and have never had a problem in the
over 400 movies i've recorded. However lately it seems like every recorded disc over 6 months old
is either pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I scan them with DVDInfoPro again or
CD/DVD Speed Scan Disc, these discs have numurous errors and unreadable blocks, no matter what
recorder or dvd-rom i scan them with. The discs vary in brand, I have Verbatems, TDK's, Princo's,
Fuji (Taiwan), CMC's and Riteks. As I said earlier, When recorded, these discs scanned and played
perfectly so I doubt it's the 2 recorders. I store them in jewel cases in my home office. Now I
have a ton of Princo and CMC CD's which I recorded several years ago and I've scanned random discs
and none have shown any errors. Today, I scanned around 8 random age recorded DVD's and every one
has unreadable blocks. Now this really sucks BIG time !!!!!! Are all these discs prone to short
term failure ????? I can't believe I'm the only one noticing this problem but I haven't seem
mention of it in these newsgroups. Have I wasted hundreds of dollars on media which won't last
beyond a few months ????? Is anyone else getting these failures ????
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I've heard of this happening to others. The cause is usually blamed on
bad media though, but you say you have used different brands?
Did you put labels on the discs? Another cause I've read about for
discs going bad is the adhesive from labels leaking through discs over
time. Makes sense, and it's one reason I don't use labels on DVDs.
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-Jon Purkey - <jonpurkey@aol.com)
For a quicker reply by email please use the
address found here: http://tinyurl.com/o8ka |
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Brian
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Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:36 am Post subject:
Re: All my DVD's going bad ????? |
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 14:16:05 -0500, Jon Purkey <jonpurkey@aol.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I've heard of this happening to others. The cause is usually blamed on
bad media though, but you say you have used different brands?
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Several...........
| Quote: | Did you put labels on the discs? Another cause I've read about for
discs going bad is the adhesive from labels leaking through discs over
time. Makes sense, and it's one reason I don't use labels on DVDs.
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DVD's have the reflective layer sandwiched between two lexan discs. The adhesive isn't coming in
contact with the reflective layer. Besides, some are labeled and some aren't, the bad blocks are
showing up on both........ |
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Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:47 pm Post subject:
Re: All my DVD's going bad ????? |
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"ElJerid" <s.vanderhaeghen@pandora.be> wrote in message
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"Brian" <unisaw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eupm11tbe824bhbctjorbc9960d9otcvlc@4ax.com...
I've got a real problem here....... I've been noticing that alot of my
recorded DVD's are
pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I record a disc,
either in my Sony 510 recorder
or my NEC 2500 recorder, I do a scan with DVDInfoPro and they usually
test perfect with no bad
blocks. I watch them within a few days of when I record them and have
never had a problem in the
over 400 movies i've recorded. However lately it seems like every
recorded disc over 6 months old
is either pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I scan them
with DVDInfoPro again or
CD/DVD Speed Scan Disc, these discs have numurous errors and unreadable
blocks, no matter what
recorder or dvd-rom i scan them with. The discs vary in brand, I have
Verbatems, TDK's, Princo's,
Fuji (Taiwan), CMC's and Riteks. As I said earlier, When recorded, these
discs scanned and played
perfectly so I doubt it's the 2 recorders. I store them in jewel cases in
my home office. Now I
have a ton of Princo and CMC CD's which I recorded several years ago and
I've scanned random discs
and none have shown any errors. Today, I scanned around 8 random age
recorded DVD's and every one
has unreadable blocks. Now this really sucks BIG time !!!!!! Are all
these discs prone to short
term failure ????? I can't believe I'm the only one noticing this
problem but I haven't seem
mention of it in these newsgroups. Have I wasted hundreds of dollars on
media which won't last
beyond a few months ????? Is anyone else getting these failures ????
Thank you
Brian
I asked to 3 or 4 friends who recorded a lot of dvd's. All of them
including myself encounter the same problem randomly. I've seen a in-depth
article about this topic in a Dutch magazine where they named the actual
dvd production a real nightmare. There are only a few dvd (generally
unknown) manufacturers who sell their products to many brands. The only
way to find out what you buy is to read the very small digits on the dvd
(unfortunally, this is only possible AFTER the purchase). Those will tell
you who the manufacturer is and what quality standard was used.
I can tell you for exemple that I recently purchased 2 boxes of 10 Memorex
dvd's. 7 out of 10 of one box could not be read after burning, while all
of the other box were ok. The boxes were purchased together in an
identical packaging. After checking the numbers and compare them with the
information, I found out that the boxes came from different manufactures.
I had a similar story with TDK...
And this happened only 30 minutes after burning !
The conclusion is that self burned (opto magnetic) dvd's have very low
quality, but that some are a little better than others. For commercial
dvd's another burning process is used (pressing) and this works perfectly.
For me the recordable dvd business for consumers is pure theft !
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This is a perfect place to try a little scientific experiment. Is there any
difference between the longevity of DVD-R and DVD+R?
Norm Strong |
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Fri Feb 25, 2005 5:01 am Post subject:
Re: All my DVD's going bad ????? |
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Hello,
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:40:20 -0500, Brian <unisaw@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: |
I've got a real problem here....... I've been noticing that alot of my recorded DVD's are
pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I record a disc, either in my Sony 510 recorder
or my NEC 2500 recorder, I do a scan with DVDInfoPro and they usually test perfect with no bad
blocks. I watch them within a few days of when I record them and have never had a problem in the
over 400 movies i've recorded. However lately it seems like every recorded disc over 6 months old
is either pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I scan them with DVDInfoPro again or
CD/DVD Speed Scan Disc, these discs have numurous errors and unreadable blocks, no matter what
recorder or dvd-rom i scan them with. The discs vary in brand, I have Verbatems, TDK's, Princo's,
Fuji (Taiwan), CMC's and Riteks. As I said earlier, When recorded, these discs scanned and played
perfectly so I doubt it's the 2 recorders. I store them in jewel cases in my home office. Now I
have a ton of Princo and CMC CD's which I recorded several years ago and I've scanned random discs
and none have shown any errors. Today, I scanned around 8 random age recorded DVD's and every one
has unreadable blocks. Now this really sucks BIG time !!!!!! Are all these discs prone to short
term failure ????? I can't believe I'm the only one noticing this problem but I haven't seem
mention of it in these newsgroups. Have I wasted hundreds of dollars on media which won't last
beyond a few months ????? Is anyone else getting these failures ????
Thank you
Brian
Obviously there are no real quality norms for producing dvd's. It is |
pure theft. Some time ago there were at least 3 manufacturers of
dvd-r's who made quality stuff: Mitsui, Philips and Taiyo Yuden.
Mitsui was sold, Philips has stopped the production of quality dvd-r's
and only Taiyo Yuden remains. Regrettably I later on heard of TY
selling dvd-r's of different qualities. What's more, TY dvd's are not
sold under there own names. TY delivers their dvd-r's to different
brands. But there are some sites in the Netherlands and in Germany
that sell dvd-r's accompanied of the codes of the (real)
manufactorers. I only buy TY's nowadays (hoping I am lucky enough to
buy A quality TY's).
Max M (Netherlands) |
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Baywolf
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Fri May 06, 2005 4:22 am Post subject:
Re: All my DVD's going bad ????? |
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:40:20 -0500, Brian <unisaw@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: |
I've got a real problem here....... I've been noticing that alot of my recorded DVD's are
pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I record a disc, either in my Sony 510 recorder
or my NEC 2500 recorder, I do a scan with DVDInfoPro and they usually test perfect with no bad
blocks. I watch them within a few days of when I record them and have never had a problem in the
over 400 movies i've recorded. However lately it seems like every recorded disc over 6 months old
is either pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I scan them with DVDInfoPro again or
CD/DVD Speed Scan Disc, these discs have numurous errors and unreadable blocks, no matter what
recorder or dvd-rom i scan them with. The discs vary in brand, I have Verbatems, TDK's, Princo's,
Fuji (Taiwan), CMC's and Riteks. As I said earlier, When recorded, these discs scanned and played
perfectly so I doubt it's the 2 recorders. I store them in jewel cases in my home office. Now I
have a ton of Princo and CMC CD's which I recorded several years ago and I've scanned random discs
and none have shown any errors. Today, I scanned around 8 random age recorded DVD's and every one
has unreadable blocks. Now this really sucks BIG time !!!!!! Are all these discs prone to short
term failure ????? I can't believe I'm the only one noticing this problem but I haven't seem
mention of it in these newsgroups. Have I wasted hundreds of dollars on media which won't last
beyond a few months ????? Is anyone else getting these failures ????
Thank you
Brian
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This is reprinted from IBM's website...
Hold the disc up to the light. Are there any scratches, or can you see pinpricks of light throught
the disc? Over time, optical discs may experience a gradual deterioration and decay known as "CD
rot". The aluminum data-carrying layer of the disc may oxidize or "rust" if the thin protective
layer of lacquer underneath the label becomes scratched or damaged. Eventually, discs may be
rendered unreadable from this oxidation.
Note: The top side of the disc (with the label) is more fragile than the clear underside of the
disc. Scratches on the underside need to be fairly deep to cause skipping or to cause the disc to
fail, but scratches on the top can easily damage the aluminum layer. The slight pressure of a
ballpoint pen or pencil when labeling a disc is enough to penetrate and dent the aluminum, and can
render the disc unreadable.
Damage to the protective layer occurs due to:
poor or harsh handling
stacking or allowing discs to rub against each other
writing on the label with a pen
flexing or bending the disc
improper/uneven application of lacquer during manufacturing of the media
environmental and temperature extremes
natural oxidation over time
To maximize disc life-span
store discs vertically, do not stack them
store discs in a cool, dry place with stable temperature and humidity. Don't store discs in direct
sunlight
handle discs only by the edges, don't touch surfaces
don't flex, bend, or drop the disc. This may scratch, damage, or physically break the media
if you must clean a disc, wipe the disc from the center to the outside with a soft, nonabrasive
cloth. Wiping the disc in a circular direction might cause loss of data. Do not use benzene,
thinners, or other cleaners to remove dust or fingerprints.
don't stick labels on discs
when labeling, don't write on discs with anything other than a soft marker
hope this helps a little...
Rich C |
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Joel Graffman
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Fri May 06, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject:
Re: All my DVD's going bad ????? |
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I had a similar problems with Disks that I had labeled. Labels apparently
increase disk temperature causing problems. I soaked the labels off and
used my computer to burn new disks on good quality media.
"Baywolf" <m@nodomain.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:40:20 -0500, Brian <unisaw@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've got a real problem here....... I've been noticing that alot of my
recorded DVD's are
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GraB
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Fri May 06, 2005 10:13 pm Post subject:
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On Fri, 6 May 2005 12:06:21 -0400, "Joel Graffman"
<JRGraff@bellsouth.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I had a similar problems with Disks that I had labeled. Labels apparently
increase disk temperature causing problems. I soaked the labels off and
used my computer to burn new disks on good quality media.
"Baywolf" <m@nodomain.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:40:20 -0500, Brian <unisaw@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've got a real problem here....... I've been noticing that alot of my
recorded DVD's are
pixelating or locking up my set top players.
What brand media and player? |
I used some Laser brand discs (made by SKC) that were fine in the PC
but my Samsung combi player would lock up. They seemed to cause the
player to heat up, the discs were noticeably warm. Only those discs
would do that. No labels. |
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Luhan Monat
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Sat May 07, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: All my DVD's going bad ????? - Diagnosticver213-51.exe ( |
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Baywolf wrote:
| Quote: | On Sat, 07 May 2005 05:13:07 +1200, GraB <grab@whatever.co.nz> wrote:
On Fri, 6 May 2005 12:06:21 -0400, "Joel Graffman"
JRGraff@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I had a similar problems with Disks that I had labeled. Labels apparently
increase disk temperature causing problems. I soaked the labels off and
used my computer to burn new disks on good quality media.
"Baywolf" <m@nodomain.com> wrote in message
news:ojal71lg72d8tehuk0p0gd3oq27ju7l2bs@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:40:20 -0500, Brian <unisaw@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've got a real problem here....... I've been noticing that alot of my
recorded DVD's are
pixelating or locking up my set top players.
What brand media and player?
I used some Laser brand discs (made by SKC) that were fine in the PC
but my Samsung combi player would lock up. They seemed to cause the
player to heat up, the discs were noticeably warm. Only those discs
would do that. No labels.
I used this utility to run a check on my disks. It seems to work pretty well, and free updates are
available at the company website
www.infinadyne.com
it scans and checks the disk for errors and bad spots, and list the data in a Windows Explorer type
window to allow for easy browsing and recovery.
I haven't tried it a movie DVD's but for data it works great on both cd and dvd.
it even tells you what data is good or bad and can or cannot be saved....
The problem I am having is unique, in that I can find no one else who has seen this happen....
I am using a new Plextor 712a DVD writer under Windows 2000 SP4.
The software is Roxio EZ CD Creator, which came included with my burner.
I have used Fuji CD's and Sony DVD's (niether which was on the recomend list with the burner)
On vcd's , no problem
on mp3 disc's, no problem
on music disc's, again, no problem...
however, when I burn data discs, the application runs without error, and everything checks out ok,
but when viewing the disc, it shows ONLY the FIRST folder copied, and ALL other folders and
subfolders are empty....
lokking at the burned side, I can see the disc is full...cd OR dvd, yet the data cannot be found on
the disc....
when i tried a data disc full of mp3, the first time i had the error, it only occured in one
subfolder, and when i tried to burn a new disc, it happened in the same subfolder....
it is getting worse...
no one seems to have seen or heard of this error...
when I used the Diagnostic program, it showed I was right - the data is on the disc, but the
recovery prog showed it it in folders labeled "unattached" I don't know what that means or why this
happens...
I cannot find anything about it on the website for plextor either.
I thought maybe it is the software and was going to upgrade to Nero any way, which I like better
than Roxio and see I f the problem exists.
The only thing I caould get out of the Techs at the store I bought the Drive was that some DVD
burners are very particular about the media they use and they said I should try a recommended
brand...
Has anyone seen this before....???
I really hate the idea of burning discs only to have to use a recovery prog to get the data
back....that makes no sense, since it defeats the pruorpose of burning in the first place...
Rich C
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I would suspect the writer drive, maybe a weak laser. There was a
similar problem with 'partially' programmed eprom memory chips. Only
thing to do is try the same blank disks on another computer.
--
Luhan Monat (luhanis 'at' yahoo 'dot' com)
"The future is not what it used to be..."
http://members.cox.net/berniekm |
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Baywolf
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Sat May 07, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: All my DVD's going bad ????? - Diagnosticver213-51.exe ( |
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On Sat, 07 May 2005 05:13:07 +1200, GraB <grab@whatever.co.nz> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 6 May 2005 12:06:21 -0400, "Joel Graffman"
JRGraff@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I had a similar problems with Disks that I had labeled. Labels apparently
increase disk temperature causing problems. I soaked the labels off and
used my computer to burn new disks on good quality media.
"Baywolf" <m@nodomain.com> wrote in message
news:ojal71lg72d8tehuk0p0gd3oq27ju7l2bs@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:40:20 -0500, Brian <unisaw@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've got a real problem here....... I've been noticing that alot of my
recorded DVD's are
pixelating or locking up my set top players.
What brand media and player?
I used some Laser brand discs (made by SKC) that were fine in the PC
but my Samsung combi player would lock up. They seemed to cause the
player to heat up, the discs were noticeably warm. Only those discs
would do that. No labels.
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I used this utility to run a check on my disks. It seems to work pretty well, and free updates are
available at the company website
www.infinadyne.com
it scans and checks the disk for errors and bad spots, and list the data in a Windows Explorer type
window to allow for easy browsing and recovery.
I haven't tried it a movie DVD's but for data it works great on both cd and dvd.
it even tells you what data is good or bad and can or cannot be saved....
The problem I am having is unique, in that I can find no one else who has seen this happen....
I am using a new Plextor 712a DVD writer under Windows 2000 SP4.
The software is Roxio EZ CD Creator, which came included with my burner.
I have used Fuji CD's and Sony DVD's (niether which was on the recomend list with the burner)
On vcd's , no problem
on mp3 disc's, no problem
on music disc's, again, no problem...
however, when I burn data discs, the application runs without error, and everything checks out ok,
but when viewing the disc, it shows ONLY the FIRST folder copied, and ALL other folders and
subfolders are empty....
lokking at the burned side, I can see the disc is full...cd OR dvd, yet the data cannot be found on
the disc....
when i tried a data disc full of mp3, the first time i had the error, it only occured in one
subfolder, and when i tried to burn a new disc, it happened in the same subfolder....
it is getting worse...
no one seems to have seen or heard of this error...
when I used the Diagnostic program, it showed I was right - the data is on the disc, but the
recovery prog showed it it in folders labeled "unattached" I don't know what that means or why this
happens...
I cannot find anything about it on the website for plextor either.
I thought maybe it is the software and was going to upgrade to Nero any way, which I like better
than Roxio and see I f the problem exists.
The only thing I caould get out of the Techs at the store I bought the Drive was that some DVD
burners are very particular about the media they use and they said I should try a recommended
brand...
Has anyone seen this before....???
I really hate the idea of burning discs only to have to use a recovery prog to get the data
back....that makes no sense, since it defeats the pruorpose of burning in the first place...
Rich C |
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Bill Vermillion
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Thu May 19, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
Re: All my DVD's going bad ????? |
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In article <118nlip5nu3ks2e@corp.supernews.com>,
flashback <ndcoder@srt.com> wrote:
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"Baywolf" <m@nodomain.com> wrote in message
news:ojal71lg72d8tehuk0p0gd3oq27ju7l2bs@4ax.com...
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:40:20 -0500, Brian <unisaw@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've got a real problem here....... I've been noticing that alot of my
recorded DVD's are
pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I record a disc, either
in my Sony 510 recorder
or my NEC 2500 recorder, I do a scan with DVDInfoPro and they usually test
perfect with no bad
blocks. I watch them within a few days of when I record them and have
never had a problem in the
over 400 movies i've recorded. However lately it seems like every
recorded disc over 6 months old
is either pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I scan them
with DVDInfoPro again or
CD/DVD Speed Scan Disc, these discs have numurous errors and unreadable
blocks, no matter what
recorder or dvd-rom i scan them with. The discs vary in brand, I have
Verbatems, TDK's, Princo's,
Fuji (Taiwan), CMC's and Riteks. As I said earlier, When recorded, these
discs scanned and played
perfectly so I doubt it's the 2 recorders. I store them in jewel cases in
my home office. Now I
have a ton of Princo and CMC CD's which I recorded several years ago and
I've scanned random discs
and none have shown any errors. Today, I scanned around 8 random age
recorded DVD's and every one
has unreadable blocks. Now this really sucks BIG time !!!!!! Are all
these discs prone to short
term failure ????? I can't believe I'm the only one noticing this problem
but I haven't seem
mention of it in these newsgroups. Have I wasted hundreds of dollars on
media which won't last
beyond a few months ????? Is anyone else getting these failures ????
Thank you
Brian
I have had the same problem. The disc have never been played but
once. Mine are all in pristine physical condition but do not play
anymore.
I am suspicious of laser rot. This caused the old large format
laser discs from the 70s to all go bad. It was determined that
this was caused by the plastic medium "curing" with time.
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Actually it was usually moisture from improperly sealed halves.
And I've had a handful of LD rot out of hundreds. They dont "all
go bad"
| Quote: | This then causes the binary bits to be improperly spaced or even
damaged.
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There are no binary bits on an LD. It's an analog format.
| Quote: | So, here we are again with the same problem 25 years later. I
switched from generic brand dvds to Ritek. I am hoping for the
best. I have always burned by discs at the slowest speeds. Did
not matter.
My discs worked perfectly when burned, but 6 months later are all
dead. I sure wish we had some guru who could tell us what media
to buy to prevent this from happening. Right now, we are all just
guessing what might work.
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Mine work fine a year later. I've never used generics. I learned
that from CD burning years ago, when disk would become partially
untreadable after sometimes a couple of months. For CD's I
standardized on TDK's who made their own. I've had decent luck with
TDK's in the past but recently they've changed manufacturers.
Generic disks aren't worth the effort.
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Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com |
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Mike Henley
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Thu May 19, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
Re: All my DVD's going bad ????? |
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"flashback" <ndcoder@srt.com> wrote in message
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"Baywolf" <m@nodomain.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:40:20 -0500, Brian <unisaw@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've got a real problem here....... I've been noticing that alot of my
recorded DVD's are
pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I record a disc,
either in my Sony 510 recorder
or my NEC 2500 recorder, I do a scan with DVDInfoPro and they usually
test perfect with no bad
blocks. I watch them within a few days of when I record them and have
never had a problem in the
over 400 movies i've recorded. However lately it seems like every
recorded disc over 6 months old
is either pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I scan them
with DVDInfoPro again or
CD/DVD Speed Scan Disc, these discs have numurous errors and unreadable
blocks, no matter what
recorder or dvd-rom i scan them with. The discs vary in brand, I have
Verbatems, TDK's, Princo's,
Fuji (Taiwan), CMC's and Riteks. As I said earlier, When recorded, these
discs scanned and played
perfectly so I doubt it's the 2 recorders. I store them in jewel cases in
my home office. Now I
have a ton of Princo and CMC CD's which I recorded several years ago and
I've scanned random discs
and none have shown any errors. Today, I scanned around 8 random age
recorded DVD's and every one
has unreadable blocks. Now this really sucks BIG time !!!!!! Are all
these discs prone to short
term failure ????? I can't believe I'm the only one noticing this
problem but I haven't seem
mention of it in these newsgroups. Have I wasted hundreds of dollars on
media which won't last
beyond a few months ????? Is anyone else getting these failures ????
Thank you
Brian
I have had the same problem. The disc have never been played but once.
Mine are all in pristine physical condition but do not play anymore.
I am suspicious of laser rot. This caused the old large format laser discs
from the 70s to all go bad. It was determined that this was caused by the
plastic medium "curing" with time. This then causes the binary bits to be
improperly spaced or even damaged. So, here we are again with the same
problem 25 years later. I switched from generic brand dvds to Ritek. I am
hoping for the best. I have always burned by discs at the slowest speeds.
Did not matter.
My discs worked perfectly when burned, but 6 months later are all dead. I
sure wish we had some guru who could tell us what media to buy to prevent
this from happening. Right now, we are all just guessing what might work.
After reading this I did a quick check of my discs. Trying several of my |
early discs, they all played on a Panasonic PV-D4733S purchased in January
2004 and a Lite-On LVW-5045 purchased March 2005.
Three of the older discs were:
1. Princo 1x recorded with a NEC-1300 in February 2004
2. Ricoh 4x recorded with a NEC-1300 in February 2004
3. Ritek 2x recorded with a NEC-2500 in September 2004
I have 2 discs that were Princo 1x recorded with a NEC-1300 in April 2004
that won't play (a 2 disc movie set), but several other discs that are the
same brand, recorded in the same week with the NEC-1300 work fine. The
desktop players and Windows Explorer say wrong format and can't read the
disc. DVDinfo Pro can read the discs, but say it is not a DVD Movie Format.
I don't know if this provides any more information for the discussion. |
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flashback
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Thu May 19, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
Re: All my DVD's going bad ????? |
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"Baywolf" <m@nodomain.com> wrote in message
news:ojal71lg72d8tehuk0p0gd3oq27ju7l2bs@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:40:20 -0500, Brian <unisaw@hotmail.com> wrote:
I've got a real problem here....... I've been noticing that alot of my
recorded DVD's are
pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I record a disc, either
in my Sony 510 recorder
or my NEC 2500 recorder, I do a scan with DVDInfoPro and they usually test
perfect with no bad
blocks. I watch them within a few days of when I record them and have
never had a problem in the
over 400 movies i've recorded. However lately it seems like every
recorded disc over 6 months old
is either pixelating or locking up my set top players. When I scan them
with DVDInfoPro again or
CD/DVD Speed Scan Disc, these discs have numurous errors and unreadable
blocks, no matter what
recorder or dvd-rom i scan them with. The discs vary in brand, I have
Verbatems, TDK's, Princo's,
Fuji (Taiwan), CMC's and Riteks. As I said earlier, When recorded, these
discs scanned and played
perfectly so I doubt it's the 2 recorders. I store them in jewel cases in
my home office. Now I
have a ton of Princo and CMC CD's which I recorded several years ago and
I've scanned random discs
and none have shown any errors. Today, I scanned around 8 random age
recorded DVD's and every one
has unreadable blocks. Now this really sucks BIG time !!!!!! Are all
these discs prone to short
term failure ????? I can't believe I'm the only one noticing this problem
but I haven't seem
mention of it in these newsgroups. Have I wasted hundreds of dollars on
media which won't last
beyond a few months ????? Is anyone else getting these failures ????
Thank you
Brian
I have had the same problem. The disc have never been played but once. Mine |
are all in pristine physical condition but do not play anymore.
I am suspicious of laser rot. This caused the old large format laser discs
from the 70s to all go bad. It was determined that this was caused by the
plastic medium "curing" with time. This then causes the binary bits to be
improperly spaced or even damaged. So, here we are again with the same
problem 25 years later. I switched from generic brand dvds to Ritek. I am
hoping for the best. I have always burned by discs at the slowest speeds.
Did not matter.
My discs worked perfectly when burned, but 6 months later are all dead. I
sure wish we had some guru who could tell us what media to buy to prevent
this from happening. Right now, we are all just guessing what might work. |
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flashback
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Thu May 19, 2005 9:53 am Post subject:
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Thank you for the comments. Yes you are right about the laser discs they
were just analog. But I think the same mechanism wrecked them.
I will only use a name brand disc and hope that this offers some insurance.
Any comment on Ritek. That is what I am using. If you have older TDK dvd
videos that are OK today that is a good recommendation. Is that correct? Do
you have older TDK videos that are still in good shape?? |
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