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Ruud Broens
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 7:05 pm Post subject:
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"Fabio Berutti" <fabio.berutti@aliceposta.it> wrote in message
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: No idea of present Reflektor production volumes, but it was - just like
all
: other Russian "brands" - a huge State-owned facility producing tons of
tubes
: from subminiature (*) up to 50-pounds industrial/broadcast types. Still
: these days (I suppose) the "big" vacuum devices business is related to
these
: 25kW+ items.
: Anyway, if You "google" here and there You'll find almost ten Russian
sites
: selling their NOS tubes (Reflektor, Svetlana, Voshkod, Ulyanovsk,
: Novosibirsk... some do not have a "brand" name but the one of the city
where
: they were produced) at very sensible prices. Best deals are made when You
: modify Your project in order to accept CCCP-only tubes. 6N1/6N2P were
: produced in huge lots, it's not difficult to get 'em for 2-3$.
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: Ciao
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: Fabio
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: (*) BTW, the Reflektor 6N16 subminiature double triode is a cheap and VERY
: interesting tube for pre/phono amps.
Could only find data on the 6N16G : very nice !!
eg. 6ma, Vg1k=-2 V, Ra 27k, Vak=100V very lineair:-)
is that the one they use in the Vincent amps ?
cheers,
Rudy
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Patrick Turner
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:49 pm Post subject:
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Fabio Berutti wrote:
| Quote: | No idea of present Reflektor production volumes, but it was - just like all
other Russian "brands" - a huge State-owned facility producing tons of tubes
from subminiature (*) up to 50-pounds industrial/broadcast types. Still
these days (I suppose) the "big" vacuum devices business is related to these
25kW+ items.
Anyway, if You "google" here and there You'll find almost ten Russian sites
selling their NOS tubes (Reflektor, Svetlana, Voshkod, Ulyanovsk,
Novosibirsk... some do not have a "brand" name but the one of the city where
they were produced) at very sensible prices. Best deals are made when You
modify Your project in order to accept CCCP-only tubes. 6N1/6N2P were
produced in huge lots, it's not difficult to get 'em for 2-3$.
Ciao
Fabio
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From what I have seen the russians like to charge a fair old price for
air mailing the tubes to Oz.
Then one takes a risk anyway.
At least New Sensor tests the tubes in NY, and matches them, so its more
unlikely
to buy any duds.
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(*) BTW, the Reflektor 6N16 subminiature double triode is a cheap and VERY
interesting tube for pre/phono amps.
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Google gave no result with '6N16 russian triode data'.
What is this tube?
Patrick Turner.
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"Tom Schlangen" <serpentine@netcologne.de> ha scritto nel messaggio
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Hi François,
New Wensor buys maybe 4% of what Reflektor produces...
You seem to know some figures ... just to get an idea, how
many tubes does a plant like Reflektor produce during a year?
Tom
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Ruud Broens
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:17 pm Post subject:
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"Patrick Turner" <info@turneraudio.com.au> wrote in message
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: Google gave no result with '6N16 russian triode data'.
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: What is this tube?
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: Patrick Turner.
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Always check the fabulous Duncan Monroe lookup machine
(thanks again , Duncan:-)
http://tdsl.duncanamps.com/tubesearch.php
Rudy |
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Gregg
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:57 am Post subject:
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Behold, Patrick Turner signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:
| Quote: | Fabio Berutti wrote:
No idea of present Reflektor production volumes, but it was - just like
all other Russian "brands" - a huge State-owned facility producing tons
of tubes from subminiature (*) up to 50-pounds industrial/broadcast
types. Still these days (I suppose) the "big" vacuum devices business
is related to these 25kW+ items.
Anyway, if You "google" here and there You'll find almost ten Russian
sites selling their NOS tubes (Reflektor, Svetlana, Voshkod, Ulyanovsk,
Novosibirsk... some do not have a "brand" name but the one of the city
where they were produced) at very sensible prices. Best deals are made
when You modify Your project in order to accept CCCP-only tubes.
6N1/6N2P were produced in huge lots, it's not difficult to get 'em for
2-3$.
Ciao
Fabio
From what I have seen the russians like to charge a fair old price for
air mailing the tubes to Oz.
Then one takes a risk anyway.
At least New Sensor tests the tubes in NY, and matches them, so its more
unlikely
to buy any duds.
(*) BTW, the Reflektor 6N16 subminiature double triode is a cheap and
VERY interesting tube for pre/phono amps.
Google gave no result with '6N16 russian triode data'.
What is this tube?
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Duncanamps.com TDSL has the data.
--
Gregg t3h g33k
"Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines"
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Ned Carlson
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Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:27 pm Post subject:
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 22:41:28 +0000, Mark S wrote:
| Quote: | Something I found interesting recently. While browsing through my Music
Direct catalog, I came upon their tube listing. They are advertizing
Svetlana tubes, Winged C logo & name on tubes, big as life. St. Petersburg
stuff, the real thing. Their distributor is PM of America. I wonder if
Mike (New Sensor) is fighting this, or has a loop hole been found. Mark
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No, New Sensor settled with PM out of court. However, if
Music Direct is selling SED as Svetlana without any caveats,
(ie: "used to be called Svetlana") I think they'll
hear from Mike's lawyers pronto. No shortage of barristers
in NYC, methinks.
The Winged C logo remains property of the Russians.
Cyrillic C is equivalent to an English S.
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Ned Carlson Triode Electronics Chicago,IL USA
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Fabio Berutti
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Fri Dec 24, 2004 3:54 pm Post subject:
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Please see http://www.mif.pg.gda.pl/homepages/frank/sheets/113/6/6N16B.pdf.
It is a sort of "zipped" ECC88. I suppose that being so small it should
show a very small microphony, and due to its tiny size it could make a phono
stage fit inside an already exixting (or designed) line preamp.
Ciao
Fabio
"Patrick Turner" <info@turneraudio.com.au> ha scritto nel messaggio
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| Quote: |
Fabio Berutti wrote:
No idea of present Reflektor production volumes, but it was - just like
all
other Russian "brands" - a huge State-owned facility producing tons of
tubes
from subminiature (*) up to 50-pounds industrial/broadcast types. Still
these days (I suppose) the "big" vacuum devices business is related to
these
25kW+ items.
Anyway, if You "google" here and there You'll find almost ten Russian
sites
selling their NOS tubes (Reflektor, Svetlana, Voshkod, Ulyanovsk,
Novosibirsk... some do not have a "brand" name but the one of the city
where
they were produced) at very sensible prices. Best deals are made when
You
modify Your project in order to accept CCCP-only tubes. 6N1/6N2P were
produced in huge lots, it's not difficult to get 'em for 2-3$.
Ciao
Fabio
From what I have seen the russians like to charge a fair old price for
air mailing the tubes to Oz.
Then one takes a risk anyway.
At least New Sensor tests the tubes in NY, and matches them, so its more
unlikely
to buy any duds.
(*) BTW, the Reflektor 6N16 subminiature double triode is a cheap and
VERY
interesting tube for pre/phono amps.
Google gave no result with '6N16 russian triode data'.
What is this tube?
Patrick Turner.
"Tom Schlangen" <serpentine@netcologne.de> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:ur1l92-vd9.ln1@unichf002.frueh.de...
Hi François,
New Wensor buys maybe 4% of what Reflektor produces...
You seem to know some figures ... just to get an idea, how
many tubes does a plant like Reflektor produce during a year?
Tom
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