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Gregg
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:25 am Post subject:
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It appears New Sensor now owns EH, Tungsol, Reflektor and Svetlana.
What, if anything, will this "cornering" do to the market for current
production?
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Gregg t3h g33k
"Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines"
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iga
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 2:10 pm Post subject:
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Hi Gregg !
AFAIK EH, Tungsol and Svetlana (S) are the brand names of
tubes owned by New Sensor now, but
made at the same plant named Reflector ( Saratov, Russia ).
Imagine they will buy such names as Mullard or Telefunken
tomorrow - how do you think this will affect JJ, Ei or
Svetlana (C) ?
Best regards,
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Igor
http://www.arrakis.es/~igapop
"Gregg" <nospam@unknown.org> escribió en el mensaje
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| Quote: | It appears New Sensor now owns EH, Tungsol, Reflektor and Svetlana.
What, if anything, will this "cornering" do to the market for current
production?
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Gregg t3h g33k
"Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines"
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca |
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Gregg
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:19 pm Post subject:
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Behold, iga signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:
| Quote: | Hi Gregg !
AFAIK EH, Tungsol and Svetlana (S) are the brand names of tubes owned
by New Sensor now, but
made at the same plant named Reflector ( Saratov, Russia ). Imagine they
will buy such names as Mullard or Telefunken tomorrow - how do you think
this will affect JJ, Ei or Svetlana (C) ? Best regards,
Hi Igor, |
Well, I have noticed one heck of a price jump. Example, former sources of
6N1P @ $1.18CAD and 6N2P @ $2.20CAD (single tube lot) have disappeared. I
get referred to the "official" wholesalers who will not budge below $8CAD
for either in 100 lot :-o
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Gregg t3h g33k
"Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines"
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iga
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:50 pm Post subject:
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Hi Gregg !
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Hi Igor,
Well, I have noticed one heck of a price jump. Example, former sources of
6N1P @ $1.18CAD and 6N2P @ $2.20CAD (single tube lot) have disappeared.
get referred to the "official" wholesalers who will not budge below $8CAD
for either in 100 lot :-o
6N1P at $1.18 sounds music for my ears ! Seems to be a nice bussiness for |
the
seller - just rest shipping and handling costs, custom and other fees,
seller's
benefit from $1.18 and wonder how these russkie managed to make a whole
thing for free..
Best regards,
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Igor
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Ruud Broens
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 4:42 pm Post subject:
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"Gregg" <nospam@unknown.org> wrote in message
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: Behold, iga signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:
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: > Hi Gregg !
: > AFAIK EH, Tungsol and Svetlana (S) are the brand names of tubes owned
: > by New Sensor now, but
: > made at the same plant named Reflector ( Saratov, Russia ). Imagine they
: > will buy such names as Mullard or Telefunken tomorrow - how do you think
: > this will affect JJ, Ei or Svetlana (C) ? Best regards,
: >
: >
: Hi Igor,
:
: Well, I have noticed one heck of a price jump. Example, former sources of
: 6N1P @ $1.18CAD and 6N2P @ $2.20CAD (single tube lot) have disappeared. I
: get referred to the "official" wholesalers who will not budge below $8CAD
: for either in 100 lot :-o
:
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: Gregg t3h g33k
: "Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines"
: http://geek.scorpiorising.ca
Reflector 6N2P's still something like 2 euro's over here :)
Rudy |
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François Yves Le Gal
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:58 pm Post subject:
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:41:42 GMT, Gregg <nospam@unknown.org> wrote:
| Quote: | It appears New Sensor now owns EH, Tungsol, Reflektor and Svetlana.
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They own the *brands*, some only for North America, nothing more.
| Quote: | What, if anything, will this "cornering" do to the market for current
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Cornering? All of the tubes come from a couple of factories in Russia, which
are locally owned. How could New Sensor corner anything? |
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TubeGarden
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:50 pm Post subject:
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Hi RATs!
I never heard a marketing oganization I didn't like. Or did like, whatever ;)
Tubes are individuals. Once they leave the vacuum suckling machine they sing or
scream on their own.
Gossip about their lineage may tittilate some ...
if she rings your chimes, she is a true and noble Goddess.
Happy New Ears!
Al
Alan J. Marcy
Phoenix, AZ
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Gregg
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:45 am Post subject:
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Behold, Ruud Broens signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:
| Quote: | "Gregg" <nospam@unknown.org> wrote in message
news:IGxxd.4101$Y72.1260@edtnps91...
: Behold, iga signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament: : : > Hi Gregg !
: > AFAIK EH, Tungsol and Svetlana (S) are the brand names of tubes
owned : > by New Sensor now, but
: > made at the same plant named Reflector ( Saratov, Russia ). Imagine
they : > will buy such names as Mullard or Telefunken tomorrow - how do
you think : > this will affect JJ, Ei or Svetlana (C) ? Best regards, :
:
: Hi Igor,
:
: Well, I have noticed one heck of a price jump. Example, former sources
of : 6N1P @ $1.18CAD and 6N2P @ $2.20CAD (single tube lot) have
disappeared. I : get referred to the "official" wholesalers who will not
budge below $8CAD : for either in 100 lot :-o :
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: Gregg t3h g33k
: "Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines" :
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca
Reflector 6N2P's still something like 2 euro's over here :) Rudy
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Hi Rudy!
2EU = ~$4CAD. Still a bonzer deal compared to this side of the pond :-)
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Gregg t3h g33k
"Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines"
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Gregg
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:47 am Post subject:
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Behold, François Yves Le Gal signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:
| Quote: | On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 06:41:42 GMT, Gregg <nospam@unknown.org> wrote:
It appears New Sensor now owns EH, Tungsol, Reflektor and Svetlana.
They own the *brands*, some only for North America, nothing more.
What, if anything, will this "cornering" do to the market for current
production?
Cornering? All of the tubes come from a couple of factories in Russia,
which are locally owned. How could New Sensor corner anything?
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New Sensoe also claims directorship. Nothing comes out of Reflektor
without first being OK'd by New York. "Cornering" if they so chose, is the
way I interpret it. I may be wrong, have been before! ;-)
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Gregg t3h g33k
"Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines"
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Gregg
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:48 am Post subject:
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Behold, TubeGarden signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:
| Quote: | Hi RATs!
I never heard a marketing oganization I didn't like. Or did like,
whatever ;)
Tubes are individuals. Once they leave the vacuum suckling machine they
sing or scream on their own.
Gossip about their lineage may tittilate some ...
if she rings your chimes, she is a true and noble Goddess.
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So true!
Bring on the tubes!
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Gregg t3h g33k
"Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines"
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François Yves Le Gal
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:45 am Post subject:
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On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 19:47:47 GMT, Gregg <nospam@unknown.org> wrote:
| Quote: | New Sensoe also claims directorship. Nothing comes out of Reflektor
without first being OK'd by New York.
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New Wensor buys maybe 4% of what Reflektor produces... |
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Mark S
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 3:41 am Post subject:
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Something I found interesting recently. While browsing through my Music
Direct catalog, I came upon their tube listing. They are advertizing
Svetlana tubes, Winged C logo & name on tubes, big as life. St. Petersburg
stuff, the real thing. Their distributor is PM of America. I wonder if Mike
(New Sensor) is fighting this, or has a loop hole been found.
Mark
"iga" <igapop@arrakis.es> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hi Gregg !
AFAIK EH, Tungsol and Svetlana (S) are the brand names of
tubes owned by New Sensor now, but
made at the same plant named Reflector ( Saratov, Russia ).
Imagine they will buy such names as Mullard or Telefunken
tomorrow - how do you think this will affect JJ, Ei or
Svetlana (C) ?
Best regards,
--
Igor
http://www.arrakis.es/~igapop
"Gregg" <nospam@unknown.org> escribió en el mensaje
news:Guuxd.4093$Y72.2455@edtnps91...
It appears New Sensor now owns EH, Tungsol, Reflektor and Svetlana.
What, if anything, will this "cornering" do to the market for current
production?
--
Gregg t3h g33k
"Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines"
http://geek.scorpiorising.ca
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Tom Schlangen
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:33 am Post subject:
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Hi François,
| Quote: | New Wensor buys maybe 4% of what Reflektor produces...
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You seem to know some figures ... just to get an idea, how
many tubes does a plant like Reflektor produce during a year?
Tom
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Fabio Berutti
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:02 pm Post subject:
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No idea of present Reflektor production volumes, but it was - just like all
other Russian "brands" - a huge State-owned facility producing tons of tubes
from subminiature (*) up to 50-pounds industrial/broadcast types. Still
these days (I suppose) the "big" vacuum devices business is related to these
25kW+ items.
Anyway, if You "google" here and there You'll find almost ten Russian sites
selling their NOS tubes (Reflektor, Svetlana, Voshkod, Ulyanovsk,
Novosibirsk... some do not have a "brand" name but the one of the city where
they were produced) at very sensible prices. Best deals are made when You
modify Your project in order to accept CCCP-only tubes. 6N1/6N2P were
produced in huge lots, it's not difficult to get 'em for 2-3$.
Ciao
Fabio
(*) BTW, the Reflektor 6N16 subminiature double triode is a cheap and VERY
interesting tube for pre/phono amps.
"Tom Schlangen" <serpentine@netcologne.de> ha scritto nel messaggio
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| Quote: | Hi François,
New Wensor buys maybe 4% of what Reflektor produces...
You seem to know some figures ... just to get an idea, how
many tubes does a plant like Reflektor produce during a year?
Tom
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Gregg
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 5:31 pm Post subject:
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Behold, Fabio Berutti signalled from keyed 4-1000A filament:
| Quote: | (*) BTW, the Reflektor 6N16 subminiature double triode is a cheap and
VERY interesting tube for pre/phono amps.
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How's it for noise? Right now I'm playing with 6N1P for phono.
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Gregg t3h g33k
"Ratings are for transistors....tubes have guidelines"
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