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Matt
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:16 am Post subject:
type of bass |
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I've been googling around on this subject, but maybe I'm asking the wrong
question... I was driving for a couple hours today in my car. I have a 02
WRX w/ a "premium soundsystem" which includes an 8" subwoofer. Its
definitely cute. hehe. But since acquiring this vehicle, I've made some
audio upgrades and I'm looking at putting subs in it. I listened to a few
different types of music through my current system and I asked myself, are
there different kinds of bass?
I listened to some GnR and some Metallica, where the kickdrum has been very
punchy in other systems, but not so much in mine, but I also listened to
some rap/techno, where the bass sounded better. Does the percussive nature
of a real acoustic kickdrum sound different from a more synthesized "note"
of rap & techno? Would my small sub in a sealed box make the rap and techno
sound louder? would a larger driver and/or ported sub make a difference?
I currently have 2 12" Eminence Kappa Pro drivers and I'm designing the
subbox using the Eminence speaker designer software. I know the difference
in response between the two types of enclosures, but I don't know how that
translates to what I hear.
Any comments on the different kinds of bass? Thanks!
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Cyrus
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 1:13 pm Post subject:
Re: type of bass |
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In article <NM7vd.2692$Qk5.1996@lakeread04>, "Matt" <valid@email.com>
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| Quote: | I've been googling around on this subject, but maybe I'm asking the wrong
question... I was driving for a couple hours today in my car. I have a 02
WRX w/ a "premium soundsystem" which includes an 8" subwoofer. Its
definitely cute. hehe. But since acquiring this vehicle, I've made some
audio upgrades and I'm looking at putting subs in it. I listened to a few
different types of music through my current system and I asked myself, are
there different kinds of bass?
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Short answer: yes.
| Quote: | I listened to some GnR and some Metallica, where the kickdrum has been very
punchy in other systems, but not so much in mine, but I also listened to
some rap/techno, where the bass sounded better. Does the percussive nature
of a real acoustic kickdrum sound different from a more synthesized "note"
of rap & techno?
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Definitely. Before the mix engineer gets his hands on it anyway.
| Quote: | Would my small sub in a sealed box make the rap and techno sound louder?
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It could. Most frequency content in modern rap/r&b is centralized in a
couple places.
| Quote: | would a larger driver and/or ported sub make a difference?
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Definitely. But it probably won't solve your midbass problem. Alot of
the older gnr and metallica stuff has almost as much midbass content as
bass/sub-bass stuff.
| Quote: | I currently have 2 12" Eminence Kappa Pro drivers and I'm designing the
subbox using the Eminence speaker designer software. I know the difference
in response between the two types of enclosures, but I don't know how that
translates to what I hear.
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Experiment. Load some songs you know into a DAW program of some sort.
Find a spectrum analyzer and see where where the song is dancing. Play
with eq's to hear the changes real time, etc.
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Any comments on the different kinds of bass? Thanks!
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Cyrus
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MZ
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 8:19 pm Post subject:
Re: type of bass |
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| Quote: | I've been googling around on this subject, but maybe I'm asking the wrong
question... I was driving for a couple hours today in my car. I have a
02
WRX w/ a "premium soundsystem" which includes an 8" subwoofer. Its
definitely cute. hehe. But since acquiring this vehicle, I've made some
audio upgrades and I'm looking at putting subs in it. I listened to a few
different types of music through my current system and I asked myself, are
there different kinds of bass?
I listened to some GnR and some Metallica, where the kickdrum has been
very
punchy in other systems, but not so much in mine, but I also listened to
some rap/techno, where the bass sounded better. Does the percussive
nature
of a real acoustic kickdrum sound different from a more synthesized "note"
of rap & techno? Would my small sub in a sealed box make the rap and
techno
sound louder? would a larger driver and/or ported sub make a difference?
I currently have 2 12" Eminence Kappa Pro drivers and I'm designing the
subbox using the Eminence speaker designer software. I know the
difference
in response between the two types of enclosures, but I don't know how that
translates to what I hear.
Any comments on the different kinds of bass? Thanks!
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IME, the majority of complaints of this type stem from inadequate midbass
response - something that your midbass drivers are responsible for. Explain
a little about what you've got there. |
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Matt
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Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:20 am Post subject:
Re: type of bass |
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Well I built a subwoofer for my home stereo with the resonant frequency of
the box too low and it was just boomy. I then reported it with an Fb of
around 65 or 70hz. This really made it punchy. what frequencies are "mid
bass?" What parameters should I look for when designing a sub and more
importantly, what do these SOUND like?
-matt
"MZ" <zarellam@removetwcny.rr.comspam> wrote in message
news:--ednWkTbdbLLiDcRVn-vA@giganews.com...
| Quote: | I've been googling around on this subject, but maybe I'm asking the wrong
question... I was driving for a couple hours today in my car. I have a
02
WRX w/ a "premium soundsystem" which includes an 8" subwoofer. Its
definitely cute. hehe. But since acquiring this vehicle, I've made some
audio upgrades and I'm looking at putting subs in it. I listened to a
few
different types of music through my current system and I asked myself,
are
there different kinds of bass?
I listened to some GnR and some Metallica, where the kickdrum has been
very
punchy in other systems, but not so much in mine, but I also listened to
some rap/techno, where the bass sounded better. Does the percussive
nature
of a real acoustic kickdrum sound different from a more synthesized
"note"
of rap & techno? Would my small sub in a sealed box make the rap and
techno
sound louder? would a larger driver and/or ported sub make a difference?
I currently have 2 12" Eminence Kappa Pro drivers and I'm designing the
subbox using the Eminence speaker designer software. I know the
difference
in response between the two types of enclosures, but I don't know how
that
translates to what I hear.
Any comments on the different kinds of bass? Thanks!
IME, the majority of complaints of this type stem from inadequate midbass
response - something that your midbass drivers are responsible for.
Explain
a little about what you've got there.
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JohnV@nn
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Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:15 am Post subject:
Re: type of bass |
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Matt,
I have come to the realization that bass, sub-bass and highs are all pretty easy to achieve; the tough piece is the mid-bass. As
far as I can tell, the industry seems to focus all their attention (and marketing) on subs, largely ignoring the need for good
midbass equipment. Do a Google search for "midbass".in this group.
John
"Matt" <valid@email.com> wrote in message news:Qspvd.2741$Qk5.439@lakeread04...
| Quote: | Well I built a subwoofer for my home stereo with the resonant frequency of the box too low and it was just boomy. I then
reported it with an Fb of around 65 or 70hz. This really made it punchy. what frequencies are "mid bass?" What parameters
should I look for when designing a sub and more importantly, what do these SOUND like?
-matt
"MZ" <zarellam@removetwcny.rr.comspam> wrote in message news:--ednWkTbdbLLiDcRVn-vA@giganews.com...
I've been googling around on this subject, but maybe I'm asking the wrong
question... I was driving for a couple hours today in my car. I have a
02
WRX w/ a "premium soundsystem" which includes an 8" subwoofer. Its
definitely cute. hehe. But since acquiring this vehicle, I've made some
audio upgrades and I'm looking at putting subs in it. I listened to a few
different types of music through my current system and I asked myself, are
there different kinds of bass?
I listened to some GnR and some Metallica, where the kickdrum has been
very
punchy in other systems, but not so much in mine, but I also listened to
some rap/techno, where the bass sounded better. Does the percussive
nature
of a real acoustic kickdrum sound different from a more synthesized "note"
of rap & techno? Would my small sub in a sealed box make the rap and
techno
sound louder? would a larger driver and/or ported sub make a difference?
I currently have 2 12" Eminence Kappa Pro drivers and I'm designing the
subbox using the Eminence speaker designer software. I know the
difference
in response between the two types of enclosures, but I don't know how that
translates to what I hear.
Any comments on the different kinds of bass? Thanks!
IME, the majority of complaints of this type stem from inadequate midbass
response - something that your midbass drivers are responsible for. Explain
a little about what you've got there.
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