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George Gleason
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:44 pm Post subject:
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UCLAgrad wrote:
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RL wrote:
The original poster is a borderline troll, but sometimes as a poor
soundman, I have to wonder. Could I get the job done spending half the
money. I don't run sound for a national act or anything. Running 2-4
tops per side and 4-8 sub cabinets, I don't want to have to lay down
20,000 dollars on speakers. I won't make enough money around our area
to pay the loan on that.
No sir. I am not what you call a troll. I believe I posted a legitimate
question. Similar to you, I am in a small town with very few dealers within
100 miles of the area so I don't get to demo a bunch of systems. Since I
personally don't know 'how much' better the expensive stuff sounds, I was
looking for answers on the audible differences between cheap stuff and good
stuff... and perhaps an explaination why.
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I don't like to promote too much in the group
if you would be kind enough to email me I can give you some options that
will get you years of quality service
George
bmoas@yahoo.com
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Rupert
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Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject:
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UCLAgrad wrote:
| Quote: | Thank you for the information. I really nevered looked into
Yorkville. I
looked at the U15 and the TX4. They seem about the same price.
Which of
these do you recommend? The specs on paper look about the same. The
biggest difference I saw was that the U15 is 4 ohms and the TX4 is 8
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Between the two, I'd be more inclined to go with the U15. The new horn
technology is much smoother sounding, and the ability to array them 3
wide is a big plus. Since you can array them tightly, you can get more
coverage and more output when you add more then one box per side. 3 a
side could net you over 131 dB of peak SPL for the highs and more for
the lows.
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Mike
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Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:13 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | I have to wonder. Could I get the job done spending half
the money. I don't run sound for a national act or anything. Running 2-4
tops per side and 4-8 sub cabinets, I don't
want to have to lay down 20,000 dollars on speakers. I
won't make enough money around our area to pay the
loan on that.
I know most of the true pro's here give us small guys advice,
and it's great don't get me wrong. However, trying to justify
a $1500 cabinet when a cabinet priced at 1/2 to 1/3 will do
90% of the performance is really tough.
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Understandable. Here's another twist to the thought process. What
about used gear?? There's a lot of quality, high end used gear out there
that can be bought for a decent price. Yes you need to be careful. Also, a
lot of time you can find a complete system. For example a company might
sell of a KF850 rig (racks, stacks and cabling).
Mike Borkhuis |
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ceedub
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:02 pm Post subject:
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Just curious about this...
Who sources the drivers for higher end PA units like EAW, Myersound, etc?
Obviously, EV and JBL make their own. But, can lower sales volume vendors
like EAW design and build their own drivers?
Craig
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| Quote: | I have to wonder. Could I get the job done spending half
the money. I don't run sound for a national act or anything. Running 2-4
tops per side and 4-8 sub cabinets, I don't
want to have to lay down 20,000 dollars on speakers. I
won't make enough money around our area to pay the
loan on that.
I know most of the true pro's here give us small guys advice,
and it's great don't get me wrong. However, trying to justify
a $1500 cabinet when a cabinet priced at 1/2 to 1/3 will do
90% of the performance is really tough.
Understandable. Here's another twist to the thought process. What
about used gear?? There's a lot of quality, high end used gear out there
that can be bought for a decent price. Yes you need to be careful. Also,
a lot of time you can find a complete system. For example a company might
sell of a KF850 rig (racks, stacks and cabling).
Mike Borkhuis
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Blind Joni
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:29 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | But, can lower sales volume vendors
like EAW design and build their own drivers?
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NO..I know that EAW uses Eminence drivers. Most manufacturers have drivers made
to fit the application or design around existing drivers. Others will have more
specific info, I'm sure.
John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
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George Gleason
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:29 pm Post subject:
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Blind Joni wrote:
| Quote: | But, can lower sales volume vendors
like EAW design and build their own drivers?
NO..I know that EAW uses Eminence drivers. Most manufacturers have drivers made
to fit the application or design around existing drivers. Others will have more
specific info, I'm sure.
EAW evaluates drivers from every manufactuer and finds or custom orders |
speakers to fill their need
Eaw use Fane, RCF, enimence, JBl as well as others
you shouldx tour their R&D facility some time
I have pictures if youd like to see them
george |
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Blind Joni
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Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:13 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | you shouldx tour their R&D facility some time
I have pictures if youd like to see them
george
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Is it at the factory in Mass? I was there for Smaart School but didn't have
time to check anything out.
John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
518-449-1637 |
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George Gleason
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Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:13 am Post subject:
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Blind Joni wrote:
| Quote: | you shouldx tour their R&D facility some time
I have pictures if youd like to see them
george
Is it at the factory in Mass? I was there for Smaart School but didn't have
time to check anything out.
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I spent about 8 hours there in the r&d labs , the demo room, the most
interesting place was the wood shop or possibly the "boneyard"
George |
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Blind Joni
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Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:13 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | yup
I spent about 8 hours there in the r&d labs , the demo room, the most
interesting place was the wood shop or possibly the "boneyard"
George
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Yeah, my class was in the demo room. I would have liked to have had time to
demo a bunch of their products in the same place.
John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
www.sosrecording.net
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Chad Wahls
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Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:19 pm Post subject:
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"George Gleason" <g.p.gleason@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Blind Joni wrote:
you shouldx tour their R&D facility some time
I have pictures if youd like to see them
george
Is it at the factory in Mass? I was there for Smaart School but didn't
have
time to check anything out.
yup
I spent about 8 hours there in the r&d labs , the demo room, the most
interesting place was the wood shop or possibly the "boneyard"
George
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I would LOVE to see EAW's boneyard. I once has a client that had EAW Hi-Fi
type speakers, They had a dome mid. Nobody at EAW could identify them, we
scrapped them, I wish digital cameras were around then!
Chad |
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George Gleason
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Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:20 pm Post subject:
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Chad Wahls wrote:
| Quote: | "George Gleason" <g.p.gleason@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:6hvvd.123011$7i4.55998@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Blind Joni wrote:
you shouldx tour their R&D facility some time
I have pictures if youd like to see them
george
Is it at the factory in Mass? I was there for Smaart School but didn't
have
time to check anything out.
yup
I spent about 8 hours there in the r&d labs , the demo room, the most
interesting place was the wood shop or possibly the "boneyard"
George
I would LOVE to see EAW's boneyard. I once has a client that had EAW Hi-Fi
type speakers, They had a dome mid. Nobody at EAW could identify them, we
scrapped them, I wish digital cameras were around then!
Chad
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I might have some pictures, including a toboggan made from a bh800 or
something :-)
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