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Walt Mather
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Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:30 pm Post subject:
Panasonic E85 & PQ - please help |
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I first bought a E55 and took it back because the pq was so bad. I now have
the E85 and the picture doesn't look any better. I'm wondering if I'm doing
something wrong.
My setup:
I have an 34" 16:9 direct view HDTV (the one Dish sells with HD in a Box
promo) with a Dish 508 & 811. The 508 hooks to a S-Vid switcher with one
output direct to the S-Vid on my tv and the other to the S-vid of the E85s
L-1 input. My 811's DVI goes to the TV and the S-vid to the E85s L-3 input.
The E85 goes to the TV via RGB component.
The results:
The direct connections to the TV of both satellites look great but when
either is viewed thru the E85 they loose a lot - especially if I have
progressive scan turned on.
I've fooled with settings on the E85, my tv and the sat receivers but
nothing makes the picture quality from the E85 even close to that of what I
get when viewing my satellite channels direct. None of the dvds I've made
look that good either. Not what I expected since I've read here many times
of people getting good results with this unit.
I'm not expecting movies I record on dvd to look as good as commercial
versions but I thought they'd at least look as good as they do from my sat
receivers if recorded in SP. I know about setting the E85 for high speed
dubbing before I record to the hard drive and also that a high speed dub to
dvd will not loose the pq that a real time dub will.
Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.
Walt
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Daver
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:44 am Post subject:
Re: Panasonic E85 & PQ - please help |
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Have you tried a connection method other than RGB from the E85 to the TV.
RGB is more sensitive to cable quality than other modes such as s-video and
component so cable length and quality can be an issue.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:avKdnd2W2Lo9TQ3cRVn-pQ@giganews.com...
| Quote: | I first bought a E55 and took it back because the pq was so bad. I now
have
the E85 and the picture doesn't look any better. I'm wondering if I'm
doing
something wrong.
My setup:
I have an 34" 16:9 direct view HDTV (the one Dish sells with HD in a Box
promo) with a Dish 508 & 811. The 508 hooks to a S-Vid switcher with one
output direct to the S-Vid on my tv and the other to the S-vid of the E85s
L-1 input. My 811's DVI goes to the TV and the S-vid to the E85s L-3
input.
The E85 goes to the TV via RGB component.
The results:
The direct connections to the TV of both satellites look great but when
either is viewed thru the E85 they loose a lot - especially if I have
progressive scan turned on.
I've fooled with settings on the E85, my tv and the sat receivers but
nothing makes the picture quality from the E85 even close to that of what
I
get when viewing my satellite channels direct. None of the dvds I've made
look that good either. Not what I expected since I've read here many
times
of people getting good results with this unit.
I'm not expecting movies I record on dvd to look as good as commercial
versions but I thought they'd at least look as good as they do from my sat
receivers if recorded in SP. I know about setting the E85 for high speed
dubbing before I record to the hard drive and also that a high speed dub
to
dvd will not loose the pq that a real time dub will.
Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.
Walt
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pete
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:03 pm Post subject:
Re: Panasonic E85 & PQ - please help |
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On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:13:52 -0500, "Walt Mather"
<waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I first bought a E55 and took it back because the pq was so bad. I now have
the E85 and the picture doesn't look any better. I'm wondering if I'm doing
something wrong.
My setup:
I have an 34" 16:9 direct view HDTV (the one Dish sells with HD in a Box
promo) with a Dish 508 & 811. The 508 hooks to a S-Vid switcher with one
output direct to the S-Vid on my tv and the other to the S-vid of the E85s
L-1 input. My 811's DVI goes to the TV and the S-vid to the E85s L-3 input.
The E85 goes to the TV via RGB component.
The results:
The direct connections to the TV of both satellites look great but when
either is viewed thru the E85 they loose a lot - especially if I have
progressive scan turned on.
I've fooled with settings on the E85, my tv and the sat receivers but
nothing makes the picture quality from the E85 even close to that of what I
get when viewing my satellite channels direct. None of the dvds I've made
look that good either. Not what I expected since I've read here many times
of people getting good results with this unit.
I'm not expecting movies I record on dvd to look as good as commercial
versions but I thought they'd at least look as good as they do from my sat
receivers if recorded in SP. I know about setting the E85 for high speed
dubbing before I record to the hard drive and also that a high speed dub to
dvd will not loose the pq that a real time dub will.
Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.
Walt
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Walt Mather
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Wed Nov 10, 2004 5:27 pm Post subject:
Re: Panasonic E85 & PQ - please help |
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Pete,
Isn't media really irrelevant when we're talking about the quality of the
signal being produced by the equipment ? As I said, the pq when viewed
direct from satellite to tv is great but when view through the E85's
connections, it looks bad. Are you saying that better media will cure that
problem ?
Walt
"pete" <pete@nospam.nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:b3n3p01bfftofmi4t59gh2ogr431gngk61@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:13:52 -0500, "Walt Mather"
waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote:
I first bought a E55 and took it back because the pq was so bad. I now
have
the E85 and the picture doesn't look any better. I'm wondering if I'm
doing
something wrong.
My setup:
I have an 34" 16:9 direct view HDTV (the one Dish sells with HD in a Box
promo) with a Dish 508 & 811. The 508 hooks to a S-Vid switcher with one
output direct to the S-Vid on my tv and the other to the S-vid of the E85s
L-1 input. My 811's DVI goes to the TV and the S-vid to the E85s L-3
input.
The E85 goes to the TV via RGB component.
The results:
The direct connections to the TV of both satellites look great but when
either is viewed thru the E85 they loose a lot - especially if I have
progressive scan turned on.
I've fooled with settings on the E85, my tv and the sat receivers but
nothing makes the picture quality from the E85 even close to that of what
I
get when viewing my satellite channels direct. None of the dvds I've made
look that good either. Not what I expected since I've read here many
times
of people getting good results with this unit.
I'm not expecting movies I record on dvd to look as good as commercial
versions but I thought they'd at least look as good as they do from my sat
receivers if recorded in SP. I know about setting the E85 for high speed
dubbing before I record to the hard drive and also that a high speed dub
to
dvd will not loose the pq that a real time dub will.
Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.
Walt
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pete
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Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:07 pm Post subject:
Re: Panasonic E85 & PQ - please help |
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:27:56 -0500, "Walt Mather"
<waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Pete,
Isn't media really irrelevant when we're talking about the quality of the
signal being produced by the equipment ? As I said, the pq when viewed
direct from satellite to tv is great but when view through the E85's
connections, it looks bad. Are you saying that better media will cure that
problem ?
Walt
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I have the e85 connected to foxtel. I also have a digital set top box
connected up. If I record a foxtel show at xp or sp it looks the same
as if I was watching it live. If I record 30 mins past 2 hours then I
will see blockyness due to compression.
When I record from the digital stb in xp or sp the quality looks the
same.
I have my xbox and ps2 and vcr connected up to the tele as well. There
are that mant cables going in and out. I had to get the lads I bought
it off to set it all up for me.
Maybe get the chaps that sold the e85 to come out and set it all up
for you?
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"pete" <pete@nospam.nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:b3n3p01bfftofmi4t59gh2ogr431gngk61@4ax.com...
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:13:52 -0500, "Walt Mather"
waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote:
I first bought a E55 and took it back because the pq was so bad. I now
have
the E85 and the picture doesn't look any better. I'm wondering if I'm
doing
something wrong.
My setup:
I have an 34" 16:9 direct view HDTV (the one Dish sells with HD in a Box
promo) with a Dish 508 & 811. The 508 hooks to a S-Vid switcher with one
output direct to the S-Vid on my tv and the other to the S-vid of the E85s
L-1 input. My 811's DVI goes to the TV and the S-vid to the E85s L-3
input.
The E85 goes to the TV via RGB component.
The results:
The direct connections to the TV of both satellites look great but when
either is viewed thru the E85 they loose a lot - especially if I have
progressive scan turned on.
I've fooled with settings on the E85, my tv and the sat receivers but
nothing makes the picture quality from the E85 even close to that of what
I
get when viewing my satellite channels direct. None of the dvds I've made
look that good either. Not what I expected since I've read here many
times
of people getting good results with this unit.
I'm not expecting movies I record on dvd to look as good as commercial
versions but I thought they'd at least look as good as they do from my sat
receivers if recorded in SP. I know about setting the E85 for high speed
dubbing before I record to the hard drive and also that a high speed dub
to
dvd will not loose the pq that a real time dub will.
Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.
Walt
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Walt Mather
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 12:49 am Post subject:
Re: Panasonic E85 & PQ - please help |
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I just added an S-Vid connection from the E85 to my hdtv and it DOES look
better than the component connection. I don't understand this as I thought
RGB was supposed to provide a better picture.
Is it possible that the component connection with progressive scan turned on
only benefits commercial dvds and actually hinders viewing a normal sd
satellite signal through the E85's ?
It would be great if someone of knowledge here could post a detailed
description of how the E85 should be hooked up between a PVR and an HDTV and
what the E85's settings (that effect the picture quality) should be.
Right now I want to find out if I'm doing something wrong or my E85 is
defective.
WaltinVt
"Daver" <jbrockley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cmsdct$4g2$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
| Quote: | Have you tried a connection method other than RGB from the E85 to the TV.
RGB is more sensitive to cable quality than other modes such as s-video
and
component so cable length and quality can be an issue.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:avKdnd2W2Lo9TQ3cRVn-pQ@giganews.com...
I first bought a E55 and took it back because the pq was so bad. I now
have
the E85 and the picture doesn't look any better. I'm wondering if I'm
doing
something wrong.
My setup:
I have an 34" 16:9 direct view HDTV (the one Dish sells with HD in a Box
promo) with a Dish 508 & 811. The 508 hooks to a S-Vid switcher with one
output direct to the S-Vid on my tv and the other to the S-vid of the
E85s
L-1 input. My 811's DVI goes to the TV and the S-vid to the E85s L-3
input.
The E85 goes to the TV via RGB component.
The results:
The direct connections to the TV of both satellites look great but when
either is viewed thru the E85 they loose a lot - especially if I have
progressive scan turned on.
I've fooled with settings on the E85, my tv and the sat receivers but
nothing makes the picture quality from the E85 even close to that of what
I
get when viewing my satellite channels direct. None of the dvds I've
made
look that good either. Not what I expected since I've read here many
times
of people getting good results with this unit.
I'm not expecting movies I record on dvd to look as good as commercial
versions but I thought they'd at least look as good as they do from my
sat
receivers if recorded in SP. I know about setting the E85 for high speed
dubbing before I record to the hard drive and also that a high speed dub
to
dvd will not loose the pq that a real time dub will.
Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.
Walt
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Daver
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:00 am Post subject:
Re: Panasonic E85 & PQ - please help |
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Component is nearly as good as RGB but less suseptible to cable length and
quality.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:QuadnYVkfIXZXw7cRVn-2g@giganews.com...
| Quote: | I just added an S-Vid connection from the E85 to my hdtv and it DOES look
better than the component connection. I don't understand this as I
thought
RGB was supposed to provide a better picture.
Is it possible that the component connection with progressive scan turned
on
only benefits commercial dvds and actually hinders viewing a normal sd
satellite signal through the E85's ?
It would be great if someone of knowledge here could post a detailed
description of how the E85 should be hooked up between a PVR and an HDTV
and
what the E85's settings (that effect the picture quality) should be.
Right now I want to find out if I'm doing something wrong or my E85 is
defective.
WaltinVt
"Daver" <jbrockley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cmsdct$4g2$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
Have you tried a connection method other than RGB from the E85 to the
TV.
RGB is more sensitive to cable quality than other modes such as s-video
and
component so cable length and quality can be an issue.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:avKdnd2W2Lo9TQ3cRVn-pQ@giganews.com...
I first bought a E55 and took it back because the pq was so bad. I now
have
the E85 and the picture doesn't look any better. I'm wondering if I'm
doing
something wrong.
My setup:
I have an 34" 16:9 direct view HDTV (the one Dish sells with HD in a
Box
promo) with a Dish 508 & 811. The 508 hooks to a S-Vid switcher with
one
output direct to the S-Vid on my tv and the other to the S-vid of the
E85s
L-1 input. My 811's DVI goes to the TV and the S-vid to the E85s L-3
input.
The E85 goes to the TV via RGB component.
The results:
The direct connections to the TV of both satellites look great but when
either is viewed thru the E85 they loose a lot - especially if I have
progressive scan turned on.
I've fooled with settings on the E85, my tv and the sat receivers but
nothing makes the picture quality from the E85 even close to that of
what
I
get when viewing my satellite channels direct. None of the dvds I've
made
look that good either. Not what I expected since I've read here many
times
of people getting good results with this unit.
I'm not expecting movies I record on dvd to look as good as commercial
versions but I thought they'd at least look as good as they do from my
sat
receivers if recorded in SP. I know about setting the E85 for high
speed
dubbing before I record to the hard drive and also that a high speed
dub
to
dvd will not loose the pq that a real time dub will.
Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.
Walt
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Walt Mather
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Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:00 pm Post subject:
Re: Panasonic E85 & PQ - please help |
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You'll probably think this is really dumb but what's the difference between
component & RGB ?
Is it possible that I may be mixing them up ? In other words, maybe the
component output on my E85 (3 colored plugs, red, green & blue) is NOT
compatible with the component input on my tv (also colored red, green &
blue)?
Walt
"Daver" <jbrockley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cn1n9k$dta$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
| Quote: | Component is nearly as good as RGB but less suseptible to cable length and
quality.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:QuadnYVkfIXZXw7cRVn-2g@giganews.com...
I just added an S-Vid connection from the E85 to my hdtv and it DOES look
better than the component connection. I don't understand this as I
thought
RGB was supposed to provide a better picture.
Is it possible that the component connection with progressive scan turned
on
only benefits commercial dvds and actually hinders viewing a normal sd
satellite signal through the E85's ?
It would be great if someone of knowledge here could post a detailed
description of how the E85 should be hooked up between a PVR and an HDTV
and
what the E85's settings (that effect the picture quality) should be.
Right now I want to find out if I'm doing something wrong or my E85 is
defective.
WaltinVt
"Daver" <jbrockley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cmsdct$4g2$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
Have you tried a connection method other than RGB from the E85 to the
TV.
RGB is more sensitive to cable quality than other modes such as s-video
and
component so cable length and quality can be an issue.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:avKdnd2W2Lo9TQ3cRVn-pQ@giganews.com...
I first bought a E55 and took it back because the pq was so bad. I
now
have
the E85 and the picture doesn't look any better. I'm wondering if I'm
doing
something wrong.
My setup:
I have an 34" 16:9 direct view HDTV (the one Dish sells with HD in a
Box
promo) with a Dish 508 & 811. The 508 hooks to a S-Vid switcher with
one
output direct to the S-Vid on my tv and the other to the S-vid of the
E85s
L-1 input. My 811's DVI goes to the TV and the S-vid to the E85s L-3
input.
The E85 goes to the TV via RGB component.
The results:
The direct connections to the TV of both satellites look great but
when
either is viewed thru the E85 they loose a lot - especially if I have
progressive scan turned on.
I've fooled with settings on the E85, my tv and the sat receivers but
nothing makes the picture quality from the E85 even close to that of
what
I
get when viewing my satellite channels direct. None of the dvds I've
made
look that good either. Not what I expected since I've read here many
times
of people getting good results with this unit.
I'm not expecting movies I record on dvd to look as good as commercial
versions but I thought they'd at least look as good as they do from my
sat
receivers if recorded in SP. I know about setting the E85 for high
speed
dubbing before I record to the hard drive and also that a high speed
dub
to
dvd will not loose the pq that a real time dub will.
Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.
Walt
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Daver
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Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:38 am Post subject:
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The component is the three plugs you describe, two are for the colour Red +
Green and Blue - Green or something similar and the third carries synch and
luminence.
RGB is one cable for each colour with synch being carried on the green I
think. On my E85 RGB in and out is available on the scart connectors and
this is where I feed my SKY to.
The component out I use for my projector and it looks fine to me though
enabling progressive definately makes it look worse.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:sM-dnXCOD-6UJgncRVn-qg@giganews.com...
| Quote: | You'll probably think this is really dumb but what's the difference
between
component & RGB ?
Is it possible that I may be mixing them up ? In other words, maybe the
component output on my E85 (3 colored plugs, red, green & blue) is NOT
compatible with the component input on my tv (also colored red, green &
blue)?
Walt
"Daver" <jbrockley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cn1n9k$dta$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
Component is nearly as good as RGB but less suseptible to cable length
and
quality.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:QuadnYVkfIXZXw7cRVn-2g@giganews.com...
I just added an S-Vid connection from the E85 to my hdtv and it DOES
look
better than the component connection. I don't understand this as I
thought
RGB was supposed to provide a better picture.
Is it possible that the component connection with progressive scan
turned
on
only benefits commercial dvds and actually hinders viewing a normal sd
satellite signal through the E85's ?
It would be great if someone of knowledge here could post a detailed
description of how the E85 should be hooked up between a PVR and an
HDTV
and
what the E85's settings (that effect the picture quality) should be.
Right now I want to find out if I'm doing something wrong or my E85 is
defective.
WaltinVt
"Daver" <jbrockley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cmsdct$4g2$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
Have you tried a connection method other than RGB from the E85 to the
TV.
RGB is more sensitive to cable quality than other modes such as
s-video
and
component so cable length and quality can be an issue.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:avKdnd2W2Lo9TQ3cRVn-pQ@giganews.com...
I first bought a E55 and took it back because the pq was so bad. I
now
have
the E85 and the picture doesn't look any better. I'm wondering if
I'm
doing
something wrong.
My setup:
I have an 34" 16:9 direct view HDTV (the one Dish sells with HD in a
Box
promo) with a Dish 508 & 811. The 508 hooks to a S-Vid switcher
with
one
output direct to the S-Vid on my tv and the other to the S-vid of
the
E85s
L-1 input. My 811's DVI goes to the TV and the S-vid to the E85s
L-3
input.
The E85 goes to the TV via RGB component.
The results:
The direct connections to the TV of both satellites look great but
when
either is viewed thru the E85 they loose a lot - especially if I
have
progressive scan turned on.
I've fooled with settings on the E85, my tv and the sat receivers
but
nothing makes the picture quality from the E85 even close to that of
what
I
get when viewing my satellite channels direct. None of the dvds
I've
made
look that good either. Not what I expected since I've read here
many
times
of people getting good results with this unit.
I'm not expecting movies I record on dvd to look as good as
commercial
versions but I thought they'd at least look as good as they do from
my
sat
receivers if recorded in SP. I know about setting the E85 for high
speed
dubbing before I record to the hard drive and also that a high speed
dub
to
dvd will not loose the pq that a real time dub will.
Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated.
Walt
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Bill Vermillion
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject:
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In article <sM-dnXCOD-6UJgncRVn-qg@giganews.com>, Walt Mather
<waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote:
| Quote: | You'll probably think this is really dumb but what's the
difference between component & RGB ?
Is it possible that I may be mixing them up ? In other words,
maybe the component output on my E85 (3 colored plugs, red, green
& blue) is NOT compatible with the component input on my tv (also
colored red, green & blue)?
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On many systems I've seen two setting for the component output.
One is RGB, the other is YPbPr. My system requires the latter.
If it set for RGB it looks horrible.
Bill
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Walt Mather
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Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:38 pm Post subject:
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Are you talking about your tv settings and if so, how would you go about
setting it to component vs rgb ?
Thanks,
Walt
"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:I78A67.CGx@wjv.com...
| Quote: | In article <sM-dnXCOD-6UJgncRVn-qg@giganews.com>, Walt Mather
waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote:
You'll probably think this is really dumb but what's the
difference between component & RGB ?
Is it possible that I may be mixing them up ? In other words,
maybe the component output on my E85 (3 colored plugs, red, green
& blue) is NOT compatible with the component input on my tv (also
colored red, green & blue)?
On many systems I've seen two setting for the component output.
One is RGB, the other is YPbPr. My system requires the latter.
If it set for RGB it looks horrible.
Bill
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Daver
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:04 am Post subject:
Re: Panasonic E85 & PQ - please help |
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Your TV probably doen't have the option to change the RGB to component.
At the end of the day it may come down to an incompatible signal levels
between the RGB out of the E85 and the RGB of the TV. Incorrect levels will
impact the colour quality.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Are you talking about your tv settings and if so, how would you go about
setting it to component vs rgb ?
Thanks,
Walt
"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message news:I78A67.CGx@wjv.com...
In article <sM-dnXCOD-6UJgncRVn-qg@giganews.com>, Walt Mather
waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote:
You'll probably think this is really dumb but what's the
difference between component & RGB ?
Is it possible that I may be mixing them up ? In other words,
maybe the component output on my E85 (3 colored plugs, red, green
& blue) is NOT compatible with the component input on my tv (also
colored red, green & blue)?
On many systems I've seen two setting for the component output.
One is RGB, the other is YPbPr. My system requires the latter.
If it set for RGB it looks horrible.
Bill
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Walt Mather
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Wed Nov 17, 2004 5:51 pm Post subject:
Re: Panasonic E85 & PQ - please help |
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Yea, it's kind of weird. I have 2 component inputs in my 16:9 hdtv (my 811
hd sat receiver uses the DVI input). I have my Toshiba dvd player hooked to
one and the E85 to the other. The Toshiba plays commercial dvds great.
Actually, the E85 plays them pretty darn good too. That's with it set to
16:9, 480p television.
It's viewing the signal from my Dish 508 pvr that doesn't look good coming
through the E85. It's hard to describe but the picture softens (almost less
focused), looses crispness and the colors are not as brilliant - sort of
like a basic analog cable channel. Just no comparison to the same sat
signal going straight to my tv with S-Vid.
I've switched the E85 & Toshiba between comp inputs, switched cables, bought
new cable and fooled with the settings but no difference. The E85 looks bad
either place.
One strange thing though. My tv's (RCA 34" direct view 16:9 HDTV) menu
allows separate "picture" settings for each input. Whichever input the E85
is connected too has a few less options than if the Toshiba player is
connected to it. One is "autoformat" and I can't remember what the others
are. The difference isn't specific to the input but to whatever is hooked
to it.
Walt
"Daver" <jbrockley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Your TV probably doen't have the option to change the RGB to component.
At the end of the day it may come down to an incompatible signal levels
between the RGB out of the E85 and the RGB of the TV. Incorrect levels
will
impact the colour quality.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:-5WdnS7A8paFhwTcRVn-gQ@giganews.com...
Are you talking about your tv settings and if so, how would you go about
setting it to component vs rgb ?
Thanks,
Walt
"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message
news:I78A67.CGx@wjv.com...
In article <sM-dnXCOD-6UJgncRVn-qg@giganews.com>, Walt Mather
waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote:
You'll probably think this is really dumb but what's the
difference between component & RGB ?
Is it possible that I may be mixing them up ? In other words,
maybe the component output on my E85 (3 colored plugs, red, green
& blue) is NOT compatible with the component input on my tv (also
colored red, green & blue)?
On many systems I've seen two setting for the component output.
One is RGB, the other is YPbPr. My system requires the latter.
If it set for RGB it looks horrible.
Bill
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Daver
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 1:30 am Post subject:
Re: Panasonic E85 & PQ - please help |
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Perhaps the upconversion in the E85 from the s-vid of the Dish to component
is not that good.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:UOWdnVds-qDG1AbcRVn-iQ@giganews.com...
| Quote: | Yea, it's kind of weird. I have 2 component inputs in my 16:9 hdtv (my
811
hd sat receiver uses the DVI input). I have my Toshiba dvd player hooked
to
one and the E85 to the other. The Toshiba plays commercial dvds great.
Actually, the E85 plays them pretty darn good too. That's with it set to
16:9, 480p television.
It's viewing the signal from my Dish 508 pvr that doesn't look good coming
through the E85. It's hard to describe but the picture softens (almost
less
focused), looses crispness and the colors are not as brilliant - sort of
like a basic analog cable channel. Just no comparison to the same sat
signal going straight to my tv with S-Vid.
I've switched the E85 & Toshiba between comp inputs, switched cables,
bought
new cable and fooled with the settings but no difference. The E85 looks
bad
either place.
One strange thing though. My tv's (RCA 34" direct view 16:9 HDTV) menu
allows separate "picture" settings for each input. Whichever input the
E85
is connected too has a few less options than if the Toshiba player is
connected to it. One is "autoformat" and I can't remember what the others
are. The difference isn't specific to the input but to whatever is hooked
to it.
Walt
"Daver" <jbrockley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cnenpd$3n8$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
Your TV probably doen't have the option to change the RGB to component.
At the end of the day it may come down to an incompatible signal levels
between the RGB out of the E85 and the RGB of the TV. Incorrect levels
will
impact the colour quality.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:-5WdnS7A8paFhwTcRVn-gQ@giganews.com...
Are you talking about your tv settings and if so, how would you go
about
setting it to component vs rgb ?
Thanks,
Walt
"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message
news:I78A67.CGx@wjv.com...
In article <sM-dnXCOD-6UJgncRVn-qg@giganews.com>, Walt Mather
waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote:
You'll probably think this is really dumb but what's the
difference between component & RGB ?
Is it possible that I may be mixing them up ? In other words,
maybe the component output on my E85 (3 colored plugs, red, green
& blue) is NOT compatible with the component input on my tv (also
colored red, green & blue)?
On many systems I've seen two setting for the component output.
One is RGB, the other is YPbPr. My system requires the latter.
If it set for RGB it looks horrible.
Bill
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Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
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Walt Mather
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Thu Nov 18, 2004 6:00 pm Post subject:
Re: Panasonic E85 & PQ - please help |
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Could be but this is such a popular unit that it seems like others would be
reporting similar problems. When I called Panasonic tech support they said
that the E85 component output was never intended as a "pass through" for
viewing the source programs but only for viewing commercial dvds that can
take advantage of progressive scan.
I just want to know if this is "normal" with this machine or if I have a
defective unit. I wish others here would post their experience with the
E-85 in this regard.
Walt
"Daver" <jbrockley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cngr1b$mrm$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
| Quote: | Perhaps the upconversion in the E85 from the s-vid of the Dish to
component
is not that good.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:UOWdnVds-qDG1AbcRVn-iQ@giganews.com...
Yea, it's kind of weird. I have 2 component inputs in my 16:9 hdtv (my
811
hd sat receiver uses the DVI input). I have my Toshiba dvd player hooked
to
one and the E85 to the other. The Toshiba plays commercial dvds great.
Actually, the E85 plays them pretty darn good too. That's with it set to
16:9, 480p television.
It's viewing the signal from my Dish 508 pvr that doesn't look good
coming
through the E85. It's hard to describe but the picture softens (almost
less
focused), looses crispness and the colors are not as brilliant - sort of
like a basic analog cable channel. Just no comparison to the same sat
signal going straight to my tv with S-Vid.
I've switched the E85 & Toshiba between comp inputs, switched cables,
bought
new cable and fooled with the settings but no difference. The E85 looks
bad
either place.
One strange thing though. My tv's (RCA 34" direct view 16:9 HDTV) menu
allows separate "picture" settings for each input. Whichever input the
E85
is connected too has a few less options than if the Toshiba player is
connected to it. One is "autoformat" and I can't remember what the
others
are. The difference isn't specific to the input but to whatever is
hooked
to it.
Walt
"Daver" <jbrockley@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:cnenpd$3n8$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
Your TV probably doen't have the option to change the RGB to component.
At the end of the day it may come down to an incompatible signal levels
between the RGB out of the E85 and the RGB of the TV. Incorrect levels
will
impact the colour quality.
"Walt Mather" <waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote in message
news:-5WdnS7A8paFhwTcRVn-gQ@giganews.com...
Are you talking about your tv settings and if so, how would you go
about
setting it to component vs rgb ?
Thanks,
Walt
"Bill Vermillion" <bv@wjv.com> wrote in message
news:I78A67.CGx@wjv.com...
In article <sM-dnXCOD-6UJgncRVn-qg@giganews.com>, Walt Mather
waltinvt@lostinvt.net> wrote:
You'll probably think this is really dumb but what's the
difference between component & RGB ?
Is it possible that I may be mixing them up ? In other words,
maybe the component output on my E85 (3 colored plugs, red, green
& blue) is NOT compatible with the component input on my tv (also
colored red, green & blue)?
On many systems I've seen two setting for the component output.
One is RGB, the other is YPbPr. My system requires the latter.
If it set for RGB it looks horrible.
Bill
--
Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com
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