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Bean
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 10:38 am    Post subject: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

What blank media can acheive 12x or 16x on this burner? I just got one, and
im using tdk 8x and can only burn at 8x. I would like to be able to burn at
12x or 16x.

Drive is NEC 3500AG
Firmware is 2.16 (came with it)

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kf
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 05:38:40 GMT, "Bean" <ncernig@sonic.net> wrote:

Quote:
What blank media can acheive 12x or 16x on this burner? I just got one, and
im using tdk 8x and can only burn at 8x. I would like to be able to burn at
12x or 16x.

Drive is NEC 3500AG
Firmware is 2.16 (came with it)

Some use hacked firmware to burn faster.
Hacked firmware will shorten the life of the recorder.
Buy a pioneer 108 and this will allow burning of a few good brands of
8x up to 12x using pioneer firmware.

Not all 4x or 8x media can burn faster. Fak emeid aoften burns at a
slower speed to the legit media.
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Robert
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

am considering purchasing same but as 'external' model.

is the nec nd 3500a rewriter a good one?

robert





"Bean" <ncernig@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
What blank media can acheive 12x or 16x on this burner? I just got one,
and im using tdk 8x and can only burn at 8x. I would like to be able to
burn at 12x or 16x.

Drive is NEC 3500AG
Firmware is 2.16 (came with it)
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kf
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:48:23 +0100, "Robert" <xyz1234@msn.invalid>
wrote:

Quote:
am considering purchasing same but as 'external' model.

is the nec nd 3500a rewriter a good one?

Pioneer 108 is a better unit. Burns to more brands and burns at 12x on
certain media.
Necs only burn at 4x on 8x media:(

Quote:

robert





"Bean" <ncernig@sonic.net> wrote in message
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What blank media can acheive 12x or 16x on this burner? I just got one,
and im using tdk 8x and can only burn at 8x. I would like to be able to
burn at 12x or 16x.

Drive is NEC 3500AG
Firmware is 2.16 (came with it)

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Doug Ramage
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

"Bean" <ncernig@sonic.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
What blank media can acheive 12x or 16x on this burner? I just got one,
and im using tdk 8x and can only burn at 8x. I would like to be able to
burn at 12x or 16x.

Drive is NEC 3500AG
Firmware is 2.16 (came with it)


Latest firmware is 2.18.

Only Verbatim 16x DVD-R and Taiyo Yuden 16x DVD+R are on NEC's list - but
this pre-dates the latest firmware, so there could be others. Verbatim 12x
DVD+R might burn at 12x but are 79p each.
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Doug Ramage
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

"Lordy" <spam_box@gmx.net> wrote in message
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kf <kf@nospam.net> wrote in news:m3m1p05sfjutqtt8o3u6jg3a5183fmun9a@
4ax.com:

Necs only burn at 4x on 8x media:(


Not true. They may have problems with some media but blanket statements
like that are misleading.

Lordy

Indeed. And some 4x media can be burnt at 8x using official firmware.
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Lordy
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

kf <kf@nospam.net> wrote in news:5gi1p01rggcb3dbgsemum01ji9thjsmram@
4ax.com:

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Hacked firmware will shorten the life of the recorder.

Evidence?

http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=21599&view=next

Lordy
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Lordy
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

kf <kf@nospam.net> wrote in news:m3m1p05sfjutqtt8o3u6jg3a5183fmun9a@
4ax.com:

Quote:
Necs only burn at 4x on 8x media:(


Not true. They may have problems with some media but blanket statements
like that are misleading.

Lordy
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kf
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

On 9 Nov 2004 15:58:36 GMT, Lordy <spam_box@gmx.net> wrote:

Quote:
kf <kf@nospam.net> wrote in news:m3m1p05sfjutqtt8o3u6jg3a5183fmun9a@
4ax.com:

Necs only burn at 4x on 8x media:(


Not true. They may have problems with some media but blanket statements
like that are misleading.

Some emdia, what do you work for them?
Nec drives are well known and prone to require warranty work. This is
very well documents in many review sites and even most like myself who
have bought Nec rubbish and been totally pissed off with constantly
taking it back under warranty.

Not the same problems with my new pioneer 108 drive. Even burns 8x at
12x. Funny how the same media on the Nec wouldn't burn past 4x.
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kf
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

On 9 Nov 2004 15:58:36 GMT, Lordy <spam_box@gmx.net> wrote:

Quote:
kf <kf@nospam.net> wrote in news:m3m1p05sfjutqtt8o3u6jg3a5183fmun9a@
4ax.com:

Necs only burn at 4x on 8x media:(


Not true. They may have problems with some media but blanket statements
like that are misleading.

Some media, what do you work for them?
Nec drives are well known and prone to require warranty work. This is
very well documented in many review sites and even most like myself
who have bought Nec rubbish and been totally pissed off with
constantly taking it back under warranty.

Not the same problems with my new pioneer 108 drive. Even burns 8x at
12x. Funny how the same media on the Nec wouldn't burn past 4x.
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Doug Ramage
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

"kf" <kf@nospam.net> wrote in message
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On 9 Nov 2004 15:58:36 GMT, Lordy <spam_box@gmx.net> wrote:

kf <kf@nospam.net> wrote in news:m3m1p05sfjutqtt8o3u6jg3a5183fmun9a@
4ax.com:

Necs only burn at 4x on 8x media:(


Not true. They may have problems with some media but blanket statements
like that are misleading.

Some emdia, what do you work for them?
Nec drives are well known and prone to require warranty work. This is
very well documents in many review sites and even most like myself who
have bought Nec rubbish and been totally pissed off with constantly
taking it back under warranty.

Not the same problems with my new pioneer 108 drive. Even burns 8x at
12x. Funny how the same media on the Nec wouldn't burn past 4x.


I have 3 NEC dvd burners, and all are working fine.

Don't forget that the Pioneer 108 uses NEC chipsets. :)
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Lordy
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:51 am    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

kf <kf@nospam.net> wrote in news:fht1p01ad8gbfl86bdnsi18s9lt2ugdrov@
4ax.com:

Quote:
d been totally pissed off with
constantly taking it back under warranty.

How many times did this happen may I ask?

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Lordy
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MCheu
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 16:53:36 GMT, kf <kf@nospam.net> wrote:

Quote:
On 9 Nov 2004 15:58:36 GMT, Lordy <spam_box@gmx.net> wrote:

kf <kf@nospam.net> wrote in news:m3m1p05sfjutqtt8o3u6jg3a5183fmun9a@
4ax.com:

Necs only burn at 4x on 8x media:(


Not true. They may have problems with some media but blanket statements
like that are misleading.

Some emdia, what do you work for them?
Nec drives are well known and prone to require warranty work. This is
very well documents in many review sites and even most like myself who
have bought Nec rubbish and been totally pissed off with constantly
taking it back under warranty.

Not the same problems with my new pioneer 108 drive. Even burns 8x at
12x. Funny how the same media on the Nec wouldn't burn past 4x.

Traditionly, "many" is defined as the number of fingers a typical man
has. Not counting people with birth defects, amputees, medical
students, and serial killers, that's 10. The more contemporary
definition of "many" has been amended to mean "at least 10".

Please provide links to 10 or more review sites that mention or
suggest a predisposition of NEC drives to premature failure.
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MCheu
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Michael Thomas
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:01 am    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 05:38:40 GMT, "Bean" <ncernig@sonic.net> wrote:

Quote:
What blank media can acheive 12x or 16x on this burner? I just got one, and
im using tdk 8x and can only burn at 8x. I would like to be able to burn at
12x or 16x.

Drive is NEC 3500AG
Firmware is 2.16 (came with it)


Good choice on burners. The NEC and Pioneer are the best right now
(and why not - they both use the same chipset :)

My Fujifilm 8x DVD+r (Taiyo Yuden T02) "made in Japan" will burn at
16x, though I usually only burn them at 12x because it's not that much
faster. Bought 2 50-pack cakeboxes at Best Buy when they were on sale
for $30 each.

As usual, TY has the some of the best quality media out there just
like they have for years with CD-R.

NEC has just released new firmware. Get it here:

http://www.de.nec.de/softwareoverview2.php/id/215

along with a media list. There is no official TY 16x media yet. The
fastest +r TY media is the T02 8x.

If you don't mind using hacked firmware you can get the altered 2.18
here http://tdb.rpc1.org/. It allows u to rip at full speed (riplock
removed).

MT
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Octavian
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:01 am    Post subject: Re: NEC 3500AG What DVD+R can achieve 16x or 12x? Reply with quote

"kf" <kf@nospam.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On 9 Nov 2004 15:58:36 GMT, Lordy <spam_box@gmx.net> wrote:

kf <kf@nospam.net> wrote in news:m3m1p05sfjutqtt8o3u6jg3a5183fmun9a@
4ax.com:

Necs only burn at 4x on 8x media:(


Not true. They may have problems with some media but blanket statements
like that are misleading.

Some media, what do you work for them?
Nec drives are well known and prone to require warranty work. This is
very well documented in many review sites and even most like myself
who have bought Nec rubbish and been totally pissed off with
constantly taking it back under warranty.

Not the same problems with my new pioneer 108 drive. Even burns 8x at
12x. Funny how the same media on the Nec wouldn't burn past 4x.

Well, maybe your NEC drives are prone to problems, but I've got two drives
in my PC, one in my wife's, and one in each of my daughter's computers. Five
drives, operating with no problems for a total of about 7.5 drive-years.
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