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Evan Thomas
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:01 am    Post subject: Help with editing divx files Reply with quote

Hello,
Recently I bought a USB analogue capture device (Dazzle 80 I believe
the name of it is) and I am using it to offload my Tivo Programming.
I use the "best quality" and capture AVI (I think 700 x 500 at 1500K
/sec) or something like that. Then I've been using Dr. Divx to
convert these to divx (640 x 484 1000 K/sec). I could edit these AVI
files directly with Pinnacle Studio 9 which came with my usb device,
but the programming comes fast and furious. I have time basically to
record, and sometimes offload the files to another computer for Divx.
I also wouldn't have enough space to edit these directly as an AVI.

I tried to use VirtualDubMod to edit these Divx files directly, but it
complains that they are using VBR mode for audio (which I have
confirmed in the Dr. Divx setup). It then crashed soon after. Is
there any program I can use to edit these
VBR audio Divx files, or can I convert them to CBR without losing
quality somehow?

The program told me to extract the audio as a wav file. Is there any
program that can do that? If so, once that is done, what do I do with
it in VirtualDubMod?

Any information would be appreciated. Thanks. Oh, I forgot to
mention that I am running Windows XP Home or Pro.

-Evan Thomas

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Sheppy
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Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: Help with editing divx files Reply with quote

VirtualDub definately has an extract as Wave option under the File menu, but
while it extracts the audio, it retains the audio stream AS IS. Ie it's a
VBR Audio file..... Hmm, I then use WinAmp to convert this audio file to a
full PCM Wave file.

Go back into VirtualDub and then the editing is fairly easy, I've always
re-muxed the PCM Audio then carry out the editing.

Usually I just capture video using a Firewire DV Bridge, (Pinnacle DV
MovieBox) as an Avi DV stream, compress the video to XVid, leaving audio on
stream copy, extract the audio from the XVid file, normalise the audio
stream, and finally re-mux and compress as a final stage. All this using
WinDV & VirtualDub; NB Needs XP or 2000 with the NTFS file system thou,
files are BIG.

Quote:
Hello,
Recently I bought a USB analogue capture device (Dazzle 80 I believe
the name of it is) and I am using it to offload my Tivo Programming.
I use the "best quality" and capture AVI (I think 700 x 500 at 1500K
/sec) or something like that. Then I've been using Dr. Divx to
convert these to divx (640 x 484 1000 K/sec). I could edit these AVI
files directly with Pinnacle Studio 9 which came with my usb device,
but the programming comes fast and furious. I have time basically to
record, and sometimes offload the files to another computer for Divx.
I also wouldn't have enough space to edit these directly as an AVI.

I tried to use VirtualDubMod to edit these Divx files directly, but it
complains that they are using VBR mode for audio (which I have
confirmed in the Dr. Divx setup). It then crashed soon after. Is
there any program I can use to edit these
VBR audio Divx files, or can I convert them to CBR without losing
quality somehow?

The program told me to extract the audio as a wav file. Is there any
program that can do that? If so, once that is done, what do I do with
it in VirtualDubMod?

Any information would be appreciated. Thanks. Oh, I forgot to
mention that I am running Windows XP Home or Pro.
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Evan Thomas
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:01 am    Post subject: Re: Help with editing divx files Reply with quote

"Sheppy" <spam@awshepherd.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<41affd01$0$3099$cc9e4d1f@news.dial.pipex.com>...
Quote:
VirtualDub definately has an extract as Wave option under the File menu, but
while it extracts the audio, it retains the audio stream AS IS. Ie it's a
VBR Audio file..... Hmm, I then use WinAmp to convert this audio file to a
full PCM Wave file.

Hi there. This works, except for the WinAmp part. How do I convert
files in WinAmp. I tried using GoldWave, but I seemed to get a file
that was too short, timewise. WMP 9 says the file is 32 minutes long
(exactly) but loading into Goldwave gives me a length of about 30
minutes and 38 seconds. Any ideas?

Quote:

Go back into VirtualDub and then the editing is fairly easy, I've always
re-muxed the PCM Audio then carry out the editing.

Usually I just capture video using a Firewire DV Bridge, (Pinnacle DV
MovieBox) as an Avi DV stream, compress the video to XVid, leaving audio on
stream copy, extract the audio from the XVid file, normalise the audio
stream, and finally re-mux and compress as a final stage. All this using
WinDV & VirtualDub; NB Needs XP or 2000 with the NTFS file system thou,
files are BIG.

Hello,
Recently I bought a USB analogue capture device (Dazzle 80 I believe
the name of it is) and I am using it to offload my Tivo Programming.
I use the "best quality" and capture AVI (I think 700 x 500 at 1500K
/sec) or something like that. Then I've been using Dr. Divx to
convert these to divx (640 x 484 1000 K/sec). I could edit these AVI
files directly with Pinnacle Studio 9 which came with my usb device,
but the programming comes fast and furious. I have time basically to
record, and sometimes offload the files to another computer for Divx.
I also wouldn't have enough space to edit these directly as an AVI.

I tried to use VirtualDubMod to edit these Divx files directly, but it
complains that they are using VBR mode for audio (which I have
confirmed in the Dr. Divx setup). It then crashed soon after. Is
there any program I can use to edit these
VBR audio Divx files, or can I convert them to CBR without losing
quality somehow?

The program told me to extract the audio as a wav file. Is there any
program that can do that? If so, once that is done, what do I do with
it in VirtualDubMod?

Any information would be appreciated. Thanks. Oh, I forgot to
mention that I am running Windows XP Home or Pro.
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Sheppy
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with editing divx files Reply with quote

Quote:
VirtualDub definately has an extract as Wave option under the File menu,
but
while it extracts the audio, it retains the audio stream AS IS. Ie it's a
VBR Audio file..... Hmm, I then use WinAmp to convert this audio file to
a
full PCM Wave file.

Hi there. This works, except for the WinAmp part. How do I convert
files in WinAmp. I tried using GoldWave, but I seemed to get a file
that was too short, timewise. WMP 9 says the file is 32 minutes long
(exactly) but loading into Goldwave gives me a length of about 30
minutes and 38 seconds. Any ideas?

Not a clue as to that part about the file being too short, but using WinAmp
to convert VBR Mp3's to LPCM is easy - to miss that is - start:

Properties in WinAmp, right click or press CTRL+P, Plug-in's, Output, choose
NullSoft Disc writer and choose the output options.
Personally I'd choose to output to the desktop without conversion. Select
the file you want to play and de-select the repeat/ random button's (if
selected). Press play and your Wave should appear on the desktop, also
conversion is fairly quick.

Re-select direct sound output and reload both file's checking play time,
should be identical, with the LPCM file being a little bigger.

This is just a quick and easy way to convert to LPCM Audio.
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Larc
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2004 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with editing divx files Reply with quote

On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 09:55:13 -0000, "Sheppy"
<spam@awshepherd.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

| Not a clue as to that part about the file being too short, but using WinAmp
| to convert VBR Mp3's to LPCM is easy - to miss that is - start:
|
| Properties in WinAmp, right click or press CTRL+P, Plug-in's, Output, choose
| NullSoft Disc writer and choose the output options.
| Personally I'd choose to output to the desktop without conversion. Select
| the file you want to play and de-select the repeat/ random button's (if
| selected). Press play and your Wave should appear on the desktop, also
| conversion is fairly quick.
|
| Re-select direct sound output and reload both file's checking play time,
| should be identical, with the LPCM file being a little bigger.
|
| This is just a quick and easy way to convert to LPCM Audio.

I'm running WinAmp v.5.05 and have had absolutely no luck in getting
it to output .WAV files. Every other version of WinAmp I've ever used
did this easily. Finally had to resort to dBpowerAMP Music Converter
(http://www.dbpoweramp.com/). It does a fast and flawless job whether
the MP3s are CBR or VBR.

Larc



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Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:10 am    Post subject: Re: Help with editing divx files Reply with quote

Sheppy wrote:
Quote:
VirtualDub definately has an extract as Wave option under the File
menu,
but
while it extracts the audio, it retains the audio stream AS IS. Ie
it's a
VBR Audio file..... Hmm, I then use WinAmp to convert this audio
file to
a
full PCM Wave file.

Hi there. This works, except for the WinAmp part. How do I
convert
files in WinAmp. I tried using GoldWave, but I seemed to get a
file
that was too short, timewise. WMP 9 says the file is 32 minutes
long
(exactly) but loading into Goldwave gives me a length of about 30
minutes and 38 seconds. Any ideas?

Not a clue as to that part about the file being too short, but using
WinAmp
to convert VBR Mp3's to LPCM is easy - to miss that is - start:

Properties in WinAmp, right click or press CTRL+P, Plug-in's, Output,
choose
NullSoft Disc writer and choose the output options.
Personally I'd choose to output to the desktop without conversion.
Select
the file you want to play and de-select the repeat/ random button's
(if
selected). Press play and your Wave should appear on the desktop,
also
conversion is fairly quick.

Re-select direct sound output and reload both file's checking play
time,
should be identical, with the LPCM file being a little bigger.

This is just a quick and easy way to convert to LPCM Audio.

Hello again,
I tried the process above. I still got the time discrepancy,
however. Specifically, I ripped the audio track from Virtual Dub, then
loaded the VBR file into Media Player 9, and it reported a playing time
of 32:00, the exact length of the video clip. After conversion,
however, I loaded the CBR PCM file into Windows Media Player and it
reported a playing time of 30:11. I don't want to try to use this as
my audio track on Virtual Dub because I think it will be out of sync.
What I think I will do, since I don't have the original AVI file
anymore is use Dr. Divx to rip the Divx file to Divx again, but this
time use CBR as my audio option.

-Evan Thomas
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Sheppy
Guest





Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Help with editing divx files Reply with quote

Quote:
Sheppy wrote:
VirtualDub definately has an extract as Wave option under the File
menu,
but
while it extracts the audio, it retains the audio stream AS IS. Ie
it's a
VBR Audio file..... Hmm, I then use WinAmp to convert this audio
file to
a
full PCM Wave file.

Hi there. This works, except for the WinAmp part. How do I
convert
files in WinAmp. I tried using GoldWave, but I seemed to get a
file
that was too short, timewise. WMP 9 says the file is 32 minutes
long
(exactly) but loading into Goldwave gives me a length of about 30
minutes and 38 seconds. Any ideas?

Not a clue as to that part about the file being too short, but using
WinAmp
to convert VBR Mp3's to LPCM is easy - to miss that is - start:

Properties in WinAmp, right click or press CTRL+P, Plug-in's, Output,
choose
NullSoft Disc writer and choose the output options.
Personally I'd choose to output to the desktop without conversion.
Select
the file you want to play and de-select the repeat/ random button's
(if
selected). Press play and your Wave should appear on the desktop,
also
conversion is fairly quick.

Re-select direct sound output and reload both file's checking play
time,
should be identical, with the LPCM file being a little bigger.

This is just a quick and easy way to convert to LPCM Audio.

Hello again,
I tried the process above. I still got the time discrepancy,
however. Specifically, I ripped the audio track from Virtual Dub, then
loaded the VBR file into Media Player 9, and it reported a playing time
of 32:00, the exact length of the video clip. After conversion,
however, I loaded the CBR PCM file into Windows Media Player and it
reported a playing time of 30:11. I don't want to try to use this as
my audio track on Virtual Dub because I think it will be out of sync.
What I think I will do, since I don't have the original AVI file
anymore is use Dr. Divx to rip the Divx file to Divx again, but this
time use CBR as my audio option.

-Evan Thomas

Good luck, I have to suspect that something may be wrong with the VBR MP3
track, there may be markers present in the file specifying time code, which
get ignored when re-coding the file. Nero makes note of such markers, maybe
give nero a shot, otherwise no further suggestions.
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