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DC
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:10 am Post subject:
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Been playing with my yard sale tube stock finds. Now I know why Bugle Boy
tubes get so much money--they really are incredible.
Haven't worked my way down to the Telefunken's yet. But Bugle Boy
definately beats all the GE, RCA, and Syl
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kseely
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:10 am Post subject:
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DC wrote:
| Quote: | Been playing with my yard sale tube stock finds. Now I know why
Bugle Boy
tubes get so much money--they really are incredible.
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I've got some EF86's I realy like. The "holy" plate that goes all the
way from top to bottom sounds great. Did they make other versions? Did
everyone make them with holes in the plate? I understand it reduces
internal capacitance.
| Quote: | Haven't worked my way down to the Telefunken's yet. But Bugle Boy
definately beats all the GE, RCA, and Syl
BTW, why are they called Bugle Boys? It's a clarinet on there. |
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Mike Gilmour
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:09 pm Post subject:
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"kseely" <kseely@gmail.com> wrote in message
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DC wrote:
Been playing with my yard sale tube stock finds. Now I know why
Bugle Boy
tubes get so much money--they really are incredible.
I've got some EF86's I realy like. The "holy" plate that goes all the
way from top to bottom sounds great. Did they make other versions? Did
everyone make them with holes in the plate? I understand it reduces
internal capacitance.
Haven't worked my way down to the Telefunken's yet. But Bugle Boy
definately beats all the GE, RCA, and Syl
BTW, why are they called Bugle Boys? It's a clarinet on there.
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Watch out for the 'holy' plate !! Is the print in orange? some might have
'made in holland' but they are actually manufactured in Japan. To tell the
men from the boys look at the side of the anode in the centre, as there is a
half circle on one side only its made in Holland :-) If there are two
complete circles then its Japanese by Matsushita I think )-: The Japanese
tubes are okay but certainly not up to the 'true' made in Holland ones.
Mike |
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Syl's Old Radioz
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 6:12 pm Post subject:
Re: Bugle Boy Tubes |
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"DC" a écrit dans le message de news: PomdnRqbjrIsFTPcRVn-vw@comcast.com...
| Quote: | Been playing with my yard sale tube stock finds. Now I know why Bugle Boy
tubes get so much money--they really are incredible.
Haven't worked my way down to the Telefunken's yet. But Bugle Boy
definately beats all the GE, RCA, and Syl
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What's wrong sith Syl ?
Syl
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Brian McAllister
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Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:13 pm Post subject:
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On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:00:37 -0500, "Syl's Old Radioz"
<restoration@oldradioz.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "DC" a écrit dans le message de news: PomdnRqbjrIsFTPcRVn-vw@comcast.com...
Been playing with my yard sale tube stock finds. Now I know why Bugle Boy
tubes get so much money--they really are incredible.
Haven't worked my way down to the Telefunken's yet. But Bugle Boy
definately beats all the GE, RCA, and Syl
What's wrong sith Syl ?
Syl
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Answer no.1
Let's see. RCA and GE are currently owned by Thomson, so they're
French, which explains why they are no good. But I thought that
Syl-vania was owned by Philips which is Dutch, so I don't know what is
wrong with them. ;-)
Or, answer no.2
We've been wondering the same thing for years. "What's wrong sith Syl
?" ;-)
Brian McAllister
Sarasota, Florida
email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die |
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Yves
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:09 am Post subject:
Re: Bugle Boy Tubes |
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"Brian McAllister" <Sunset@Blandings.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
jqluq01jrqqu840uqhcsmu53svihl53ur1@4ax.com...
| Quote: | On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:00:37 -0500, "Syl's Old Radioz"
restoration@oldradioz.com> wrote:
"DC" a écrit dans le message de news:
PomdnRqbjrIsFTPcRVn-vw@comcast.com...
Been playing with my yard sale tube stock finds. Now I know why Bugle
Boy
tubes get so much money--they really are incredible.
Haven't worked my way down to the Telefunken's yet. But Bugle Boy
definately beats all the GE, RCA, and Syl
What's wrong sith Syl ?
Syl
Answer no.1
Let's see. RCA and GE are currently owned by Thomson, so they're
French, which explains why they are no good.
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Absolument !
Yves.
| Quote: | But I thought that
Syl-vania was owned by Philips which is Dutch, so I don't know what is
wrong with them. ;-)
Or, answer no.2
We've been wondering the same thing for years. "What's wrong sith Syl
?" ;-)
Brian McAllister
Sarasota, Florida
email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die |
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Ronald
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:09 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Let's see. RCA and GE are currently owned by Thomson, so they're
French, which explains why they are no good. But I thought that
Syl-vania was owned by Philips which is Dutch, so I don't know what is
wrong with them. ;-)
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Hmmm ..... Basicly Mazda was French but later owned by Philips too .
So what about the later Mazda valves ??
Also Mazda had a good reputation in "the old days" .....
I think there isn't just one ultimate brand ....... !!
Ronald . |
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Andre Jute
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:40 am Post subject:
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Brian McAllister <Sunset@Blandings.com> wrote in message news:<jqluq01jrqqu840uqhcsmu53svihl53ur1@4ax.com>...
| Quote: | But I thought that
Syl-vania was owned by Philips which is Dutch, so I don't know what is
wrong with them. ;-)
Brian McAllister
Sarasota, Florida
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Answer: nothing wrong with the Dutch. Philips are in my opinion the
true inheritors of the Bauhaus, the most ergonomic designers in the
world. I have a Dutch bicycle which is such a daily pleasure that I
regret putting it away for the winter. My late father in law,
incidentally, worked for Mullard and thus for Philips.
Trivia: I own the Quad II that for many years were the reference amps
in the Philips audio design department... and no, I didn't get them
from my father-in-law.
Andre Jute |
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Jeff S 386 Fla
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:19 am Post subject:
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| when you get to the Mullards you might throw the rest away |
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Andy Cowley
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Fri Dec 03, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject:
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Mike Gilmour wrote:
| Quote: | "kseely" <kseely@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1101966376.673209.235710@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Watch out for the 'holy' plate !! Is the print in orange? some might have
'made in holland' but they are actually manufactured in Japan. To tell the
men from the boys look at the side of the anode in the centre, as there is a
half circle on one side only its made in Holland :-) If there are two
complete circles then its Japanese by Matsushita I think )-: The Japanese
tubes are okay but certainly not up to the 'true' made in Holland ones.
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Nope, Mike, I've got plenty of examples of real Mullards from several different
European factories that do have the full circle hole in their screen. By the way
that wire mesh thing is not the anode, it's an external screen. You do know of
course that Mullard, Valvo, Bugle Boy, Amperex, Phillips, Mazda are all brands
for the same tubes, often made on the same machines in the same factories. There
is nothing unique about Bugle Boys except the print on the envelope. Check out
the engraved codes to determine where they were made to factory level.
best
Andy |
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Tom Schlangen
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:09 am Post subject:
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Hi Ronald,
| Quote: | Also Mazda had a good reputation in "the old days" .....
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I have nothing to complain about the few Mazda/Belvue tubes
I have tried so far.
| Quote: | I think there isn't just one ultimate brand ....... !!
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Well spoken. It just depends :-)
Tom
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Syl's Old Radioz
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:09 am Post subject:
Re: Bugle Boy Tubes |
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"Brian McAllister" a écrit dans le message de news:
| Quote: | Or, answer no.2
We've been wondering the same thing for years. "What's wrong sith Syl
?" ;-)
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8oP
Proof reading isn't my strongest point...
Syl
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Mike Gilmour
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:35 pm Post subject:
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"Andy Cowley" <andy.cowley@uwe.ac.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Mike Gilmour wrote:
"kseely" <kseely@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1101966376.673209.235710@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... Watch out
for the 'holy' plate !! Is the print in orange? some might have 'made in
holland' but they are actually manufactured in Japan. To tell the men
from the boys look at the side of the anode in the centre, as there is a
half circle on one side only its made in Holland :-) If there are two
complete circles then its Japanese by Matsushita I think )-: The
Japanese tubes are okay but certainly not up to the 'true' made in
Holland ones.
Nope, Mike, I've got plenty of examples of real Mullards from several
different
European factories that do have the full circle hole in their screen. By
the way
that wire mesh thing is not the anode, it's an external screen. You do
know of
course that Mullard, Valvo, Bugle Boy, Amperex, Phillips, Mazda are all
brands
for the same tubes, often made on the same machines in the same factories.
There
is nothing unique about Bugle Boys except the print on the envelope. Check
out
the engraved codes to determine where they were made to factory level.
best
Andy
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Hi Andy,
Check vacuumtubes.com under Amperex tell then they are wrong ;-) Their
experiences have also been mine, good with Mullard & Holland produced Bugle
Boy's and not so the Matsushita.. DC is IMO also right in his post which
does not indicate merely average valves with changed print. As DC also
noted good BB's realise a high ebay price with good reason - because they
are that good in half way decent valve gear. I know already that many
different brands come out of the same factory and in many cases it shows,
however the difference between an average and a top rate valve is not
marginal. The anode was a mistype the previous post mentioned plate,
brainfade linked plate-anode...an angloamerican thingy :-)
cheers,
Mike |
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Anumber1
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Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:21 am Post subject:
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TubeGarden
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Sun Dec 05, 2004 12:23 pm Post subject:
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Hi RATs!
Tubes are pieces of metal in an evacuated chamber. When funtional, they perform
in a circuit. Each is unique. Some perform better than others in a given
circuit. This is possible to detect by installing the tube in a circuit and
listening. Different circuits may highlight different tubes.
Despite much hoopla, nothing you can see with your eyes will tell you if you
like the sound of a tube in a circuit. That is what you have ears for :)
Just listen and enjoy the sound and let the Babblingonions blather til the cows
come home.
There are many experts in this world. Most are expert fools.
If you like it, it is a good tube.
If not, don't blame its printing nor its visage.
Ugly is as ugly does ;)
Happy Ears!
Al
Alan J. Marcy
Phoenix, AZ
PWC/mystic/Earhead |
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