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Don Worsham
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Where to find mic splitter transformers? Reply with quote

Edwin Hurwitz <edwin@indra.com> wrote:

Quote:
I want to build a snake with mic splitters built in. I have all the
other parts, but I am trying to find a source for the transformers that
won't be super expensive (I know, in order to be good, a transformer is
most likely expensive, but with the PAs that these mics are going to
split into, a Jensen would be wasted).

Any ideas? Cheapest source for Jensen?

TIA
Edwin
Go with the Jensens direct from jensen. They work and sound great.

Wire them like they tell you to on their web site and you can't go
wrong. They can give you a direct and one or two isloated out-puts

There are cheap splitters and there are good splitters, but here are
no good cheap splitters. Whirlwind makes splitters with Lundahls,
Jensens or their own split transformers. When you get up into the 48
to 56 pair set ups, cheap becomes relative. Go with Jensen's.

I have been on the direct side and iso side of a lot of active and
passive (transformer) splitters, and I'll take the Jensens every time.
They work. Yah, I know, actives are suppose to sound "Better" and
drive long lines with better response, but this High Tech is a big
Head Ache when there are power, gain and pantom problems. Or "Oh I
forgot that feed, I'll just send that from my end back down pair 19,
ops there's an active splitter there, sorry that won't work."

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George Gleason
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Where to find mic splitter transformers? Reply with quote

Don Worsham wrote:
Quote:
Edwin Hurwitz <edwin@indra.com> wrote:


I want to build a snake with mic splitters built in. I have all the
other parts, but I am trying to find a source for the transformers that
won't be super expensive (I know, in order to be good, a transformer is
most likely expensive, but with the PAs that these mics are going to
split into, a Jensen would be wasted).

Any ideas? Cheapest source for Jensen?

TIA
Edwin

Go with the Jensens direct from jensen. They work and sound great.
Wire them like they tell you to on their web site and you can't go
wrong. They can give you a direct and one or two isloated out-puts

There are cheap splitters and there are good splitters, but here are
no good cheap splitters. Whirlwind makes splitters with Lundahls,
Jensens or their own split transformers. When you get up into the 48
to 56 pair set ups, cheap becomes relative. Go with Jensen's.

I have been on the direct side and iso side of a lot of active and
passive (transformer) splitters, and I'll take the Jensens every time.
They work. Yah, I know, actives are suppose to sound "Better" and
drive long lines with better response, but this High Tech is a big
Head Ache when there are power, gain and pantom problems. Or "Oh I
forgot that feed, I'll just send that from my end back down pair 19,
ops there's an active splitter there, sorry that won't work."

For the price of a good Jensen two way split 250 foot main/50 foot split
on mults you can get into a fiber optic which is several times better
than the best copper/transformer product
George
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Mike Rivers
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Where to find mic splitter transformers? Reply with quote

In article <coi862$krd$1@panix2.panix.com> kludge@panix.com writes:

Quote:
Even though National Events is
gone, their splitters still keep showing up on gigs, and they still
don't work on half the channels. If somebody has decent splitters for
rental in the DC area, I'd love to know.

I used to get them from RCI. Are they still around? (either the
company or the splitters?)

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Mike Rivers
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Where to find mic splitter transformers? Reply with quote

In article <3677d4b3.0411301042.69c8d37e@posting.google.com> spamiser@yahoo.com writes:

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I've had good luck on many remotes NOT transformering either side of a
hard split, but making sure that all AC powering for all audio gear
was on the same leg of the service.

I've done that too, but only in places where I know it works. You've
been lucky. Transformers are also good for keeping RF interference
from getting to the mic input.

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Mark
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Where to find mic splitter transformers? Reply with quote

kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote in message news:<colqg7$4r9$1@panix2.panix.com>...
Quote:
Mark <makolber@yahoo.com> wrote:
And I didn't een consider the phantom power question. The 1:1
bridging xformer would need a DC blocking cap but then you could use
mixer #1 to supply the phantom power and not have to futz with an
external phantom power source.

No DC blocking cap needed, since the two sides of the transformer are
both at the same potential and there is no path to ground. So no
current flows and the phantom power does not affect the bridging
transformer.



OK, right, the phantom DC is between the 2 audio leads together to ground. My bad.

Thanks

Mark
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