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TS
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:12 pm Post subject:
Hard drive based cameras ever? |
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Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a
40GB hard drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a
camcorder.
Why are people opposed to it?
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Martin Francis
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:12 pm Post subject:
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"TS" <maxview80@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a
40GB hard drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a
camcorder.
Why are people opposed to it?
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Don't think they are- several new digital backs for medium format SLRs have
built in drives in addition to CF slots. IIRC, the new Mamiya and Hasselblad
DSLRs will have them too.
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Bruce Murphy
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:12 pm Post subject:
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maxview80@hotmail.com (TS) writes:
| Quote: | Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera
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Just like the 4gb microdrives?
| Quote: | Why are people opposed to it?
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Why are people sufficiently clueless that they suggest 'cool new
ideas' that have been in use for years?
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Seymore
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:12 pm Post subject:
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"TS" <maxview80@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a2592918.0411272335.4a3a9ee9@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a
40GB hard drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a
camcorder.
Why are people opposed to it?
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Because hardrives are usually rated in "ms"... where non-volitle RAM is
rated in "ns". So, you really want to slow down the write times?
Seymore...
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Bruce Murphy
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:12 pm Post subject:
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"Seymore" <g_seymore@REMOVEhotmail.com> writes:
| Quote: | "TS" <maxview80@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a2592918.0411272335.4a3a9ee9@posting.google.com...
Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a
40GB hard drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a
camcorder.
Why are people opposed to it?
Because hardrives are usually rated in "ms"... where non-volitle RAM is
rated in "ns". So, you really want to slow down the write times?
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Flash rated to write three orders of magnitude faster than a hard
drive? Really? Wow. When can I get some?
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Mark˛
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:12 pm Post subject:
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"TS" <maxview80@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a2592918.0411272335.4a3a9ee9@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a
40GB hard drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a
camcorder.
Why are people opposed to it?
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Mircrodrives have been available for years.
I've been shooting with 1GB hard drives since 2001.
4GB drives have been available for some time. |
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Pepys
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:13 pm Post subject:
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My old Kodak DCS410 has a 512mb hard drive in it. That is the only storage
medium I can use with the old clunker.
Sam
"TS" <maxview80@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a
40GB hard drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a
camcorder.
Why are people opposed to it? |
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Marli
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:13 pm Post subject:
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You can get a Micro drive already
"TS" <maxview80@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:a2592918.0411272335.4a3a9ee9@posting.google.com...
| Quote: | Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a
40GB hard drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a
camcorder.
Why are people opposed to it? |
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Hunt
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:06 pm Post subject:
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In article <a2592918.0411272335.4a3a9ee9@posting.google.com>, maxview80
@hotmail.com says...
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Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a
40GB hard drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a
camcorder.
Why are people opposed to it?
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Nikon has an iPod-like separate 30GB HDD unit with 2.5" viewing screen and CF
card reader. It's not built into the D70 & DX cameras, but serves the basic
purpose.
Hunt |
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Jim Townsend
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:09 pm Post subject:
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TS wrote:
| Quote: | Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a
40GB hard drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a
camcorder.
Why are people opposed to it?
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Sony makes a camera with a built in CD burner. All you have to
do to view your photos is pop out the CD and place it in your
computer's CDROM.
http://www.steves-digicams.com/cd1000.html
Somehow this configuration isn't popular. Small removable media
seems to be most preferred.
They've already made hard drives small enough to fit in the place of a
type II CF card.. They may have 40+ gigs capacity some day.
Of course, they may have solid state 40 gig cards in the future too.
Who knows :-) |
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Mike Brodbelt
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject:
Re: Hard drive based cameras ever? |
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On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 23:35:31 -0800, TS wrote:
| Quote: | Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives to
ever be created?
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Yes:-
http://www.jvc.com/presentations/everio/
| Quote: | I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio Carbon
or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a 40GB hard
drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a camcorder. Why
are people opposed to it?
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They're just slow getting there.
Mike. |
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Big Bill
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject:
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:13:39 +0000, Mike Brodbelt
<mike@_nospam_coruscant.demon.co.uk> wrote:
That camera uses what the site calls "4GB MicrodriveŽ Removable
Media".
There's a drawing that seems to indicate that the Microdrive they use
is larger than a similar CFG card using a Microdrive, but there's
nothing to indicate that they are not using a standard CF/Microdrive
card, and nothing to indicate that the drawing is to scale.
The site indicates that the Microdrive is removable, and can be "set"
into a PC, but does not indicate the form factor of the removable
drive, or any specific reader to handle their particular Microdrive.
Based on this, I am concluding that they use a standard CF/Microdrive
card, and using Ad-speak to cloud the issue.
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I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio Carbon
or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a 40GB hard
drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a camcorder. Why
are people opposed to it?
They're just slow getting there.
Mike.
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Big Bill
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Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:11 pm Post subject:
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 14:13:39 +0000, Mike Brodbelt
<mike@_nospam_coruscant.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On closer examination, the camera uses Microdrive/CD/SD cards.
No inbuilt hard drive. Just the ability to use CF/Microdrive cards,
with ad-speak used to impress/confuse the reader.
Look here:
http://www.jvc.com/presentations/everio/overview/index.html
and look to the right of the box that says "Print Service". It explais
what the icons in the diagram mean.
"When the media created with Everio is set into a PC* or Everio is
connected to a PC via a USB 2.0 port, you can play and store data,
burn it to a DVD, upload it to the Internet or print it.
*May require an adapter."
No mention of where to buy the adapter, nor any indication the adapter
needed is anything other than a standard CF or SD reader.
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I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio Carbon
or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a 40GB hard
drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a camcorder. Why
are people opposed to it?
They're just slow getting there.
Mike.
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Big Bill
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:09 am Post subject:
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On Sun, 28 Nov 2004 10:47:13 -0700, Big Bill <bill@pipping.com> wrote:
Darn fat fingers! That should read, "Microdrive/CF/SD cards".
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:10 am Post subject:
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80x speed-12gb compactflash card
http://www.pretec.com/product/SSD/CF_Commercial/Cheetah80X.htm
Only $9,999
Pete
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| Quote: | TS wrote:
Any plans for digital cameras and camcorders with built-in hard drives
to ever be created?
I would think the little 5GB drives similar to what's in in a Rio
Carbon or iPod Mini could work very well in a digital camera and a
40GB hard drive from a full sized iPod would work pretty well in a
camcorder.
Why are people opposed to it?
Sony makes a camera with a built in CD burner. All you have to
do to view your photos is pop out the CD and place it in your
computer's CDROM.
http://www.steves-digicams.com/cd1000.html
Somehow this configuration isn't popular. Small removable media
seems to be most preferred.
They've already made hard drives small enough to fit in the place of a
type II CF card.. They may have 40+ gigs capacity some day.
Of course, they may have solid state 40 gig cards in the future too.
Who knows :-)
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