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Mike
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:09 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | I know RL and am from Pennsylvania as well. Id like to see
your stuff if you are ever in the area again.
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Looks like the next trip is back to Williamsport Community Center for
the Arts. Venessa Williams on the 8th.
| Quote: | Do you do any sound for events around here? -- such as
Thunder in the Valley, Folk Fest, etc.
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Not yet. Perhaps next year. =)
Mike Borkhuis
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Mike
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:09 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Does Sebastian own the Midas now/
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Yes. Had them for a little over a year.
| Quote: | did you sell the gl stuff/
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The old GL3 is long gone... We've still got one of the ML5K and a
couple of GLs (3300 and 2000) in installs.
Mike Borkhuis |
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Jim B
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Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:09 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Altoona-Johnstown area.
Small world... Did Olivia Newton John in Williamsport then Smokey
Robinson in Indiana. Drove right past you. =)
Mike Borkhuis
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I know RL and am from Pennsylvania as well. Id like to see your
stuff if you are ever in the area again.
Do you do any sound for events around here? -- such as Thunder in the
Valley, Folk Fest, etc.
Jim |
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Joe Kotroczo
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:27 pm Post subject:
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On 29/11/04 22:33, in article 311it4F378he2U1@uni-berlin.de, "Phildo"
<Phil@phildo.net> wrote:
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"Chad Wahls" <cwahls@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:cog3tm$f0g$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
Normally we just have one 240V leg. Some houses have 3 phase but that's
rare. Most larger buildings will have 3 phase though.
Is one side of that 240V leg tied to ground or is it allowed to float? Is
there a neutral and hot or two hots?
One hot and ground (or earth as we refer to it over here).
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And a neutral. There's 3 pins, remember? :-)
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Joe Kotroczo Tel: (+352) 061 926 838
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Joe Kotroczo
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:27 pm Post subject:
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On 29/11/04 21:55, in article 311gm3F36at77U1@uni-berlin.de, "Phildo"
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| Quote: | So, I went and studied ring mains. I like the idea of things being fed
from each end, USA should pay closer attention to this.
We have a lot of things electrical the US should pay attention to.
Now I have a question. Does the average European home have 230/230 coming
in for a grand total of 460 available or do they just have one 230V "leg"
Normally we just have one 240V leg. Some houses have 3 phase but that's
rare. Most larger buildings will have 3 phase though.
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Hmm...
Over here, the smallest feed you can get is 16A/3phase. Which goes into a
panel and is split up into 3x 230V single phase usually.
But over here 16A/3phase is considered sufficient only for the very smallest
of appartments. Houses usually have at least 32A, mostly more. Also houses
are usually designed to have 1 circuit for the kitchen, one for the lights,
one or more for the plugs, and so on.
And we don't do ring mains, at least that's not a concept I'm familiar with.
Different country, different habits, I guess.
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Joe Kotroczo kotroczo@mac.com |
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Chad Wahls
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject:
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"Phildo" <Phil@phildo.net> wrote in message
news:31jtm9F3cm61fU1@individual.net...
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"Joe Kotroczo" <kotroczo@mac.com> wrote in message
news:BDDA4C62.AF73%kotroczo@mac.com...
One hot and ground (or earth as we refer to it over here).
And a neutral. There's 3 pins, remember? :-)
Go back to the distribution board and you'll find the neutral is tied to
ground anyway in most cases.
Phildo
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Our neutral and ground are bonded also, provides 0V reference for the 2 legs
of 120 opposite phase.
Chad |
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Phildo
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Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:13 pm Post subject:
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"Joe Kotroczo" <kotroczo@mac.com> wrote in message
news:BDDA4C62.AF73%kotroczo@mac.com...
| Quote: | One hot and ground (or earth as we refer to it over here).
And a neutral. There's 3 pins, remember? :-)
Go back to the distribution board and you'll find the neutral is tied to |
ground anyway in most cases.
Phildo |
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Hubert Barth
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:55 am Post subject:
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Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Peter Larsen wrote:
In this part of Copenhagen the actual mains voltage is 230 volts.
Really ??? !!!!
Has it always been 230 V ?
That's the first instance I've heard of actual real 230 V.
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I just whipped out the DVM and measured exactly 230V here at my living
room outlet.
Maybe things have moved while you were not looking.
regards
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Hubert Barth
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Pooh Bear
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Tue Dec 07, 2004 12:51 pm Post subject:
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Hubert Barth wrote:
| Quote: | Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
Peter Larsen wrote:
In this part of Copenhagen the actual mains voltage is 230 volts.
Really ??? !!!!
Has it always been 230 V ?
That's the first instance I've heard of actual real 230 V.
I just whipped out the DVM and measured exactly 230V here at my living
room outlet.
Maybe things have moved while you were not looking.
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Hi Hubert. Thanks for your input.
I know when the 'paper harmonisation' was agreed, there was no chance of
it being implemented in reality very fast.
I don't know of any plans to adjust the actual UK voltage. We're still 240
V here and I just measured 252 V here at my home. The AP test set says
243V in the lab usually.
Seems like some of the ( probably more forward thinking with better
infrastructure ) European nations have decided to make the change for
real. There are problems in implementing such a change including ensuring
that the power utility's sub-stations have appropriate taps on their
distribution transformers.
The other entertaining requirement is the availability of suitable
incandescent light bulbs due to the very high influence of voltage on
lifetime ! We still have 240V bulbs here. The compact flourescents are
marked 220-240V though.
Regds, Graham |
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