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Bob Williams
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Understanding Lighting Reply with quote

Randall Ainsworth wrote:
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In article <41A8EBAE.3070504@cox.net>, Bob Williams
mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote:


No question about it. It is super-important!!
Photography is simply a way to record light.
Dean Collins is THE lighting guru in the photographic world.
He used to have a set of tapes on lighting techniques (20 years ago) but


Haven't seen Dean in a number of years but he's a tremendous
photographer.

I met him a few months ago at a Photoshop User Group meeting.
He was a presenter.
He is now deeply involved in Digital Photography and Photo editing.
I learned more about lighting in a 1hr. seminar from Dean (20 yrs ago)
than I learned in all the years previous, or since.
Bob Williams

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The Black Sheep
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Understanding Lighting Reply with quote

"Randall Ainsworth" <rag@nospam.techline.com> wrote in message
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In article <41A8EBAE.3070504@cox.net>, Bob Williams
mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote:

No question about it. It is super-important!!
Photography is simply a way to record light.
Dean Collins is THE lighting guru in the photographic world.
He used to have a set of tapes on lighting techniques (20 years
ago) but

Haven't seen Dean in a number of years but he's a tremendous
photographer.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1014&message=11226267

If that is accurate, Dean has terminal cancer and is currently in the
hospital.
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Matt
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Understanding Lighting Reply with quote

I liked your example Simon. It shows how post production makes a huge
difference, but still needs the lighting to be right in the first place.


"Simon Stanmore" <nomail@thanks.com> wrote in message
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Here's a studio lit portrait that's had no processing at all 'cept for
default ACR 10D settings and my resizing & framing actions for the Web ...
http://www.pbase.com/stanmore/image/36616481
This is the same image after controlled raw conversion and
processing/retouching ... http://www.pbase.com/stanmore/image/36572413 .
Most of the improvement resulted from raw conversion.
--
Simon
http://www.pbase.com/stanmore

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McLeod
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Understanding Lighting Reply with quote

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 22:36:21 -0000, "Simon Stanmore"
<nomail@thanks.com> wrote:

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I'm of the opinion that an aspiring photographer really doesn't need books
or tuition to understand and control lighting.

Agreed. The best teacher is experience, but sometimes a little
reading ahead of time can familiarize someone with the basics.
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Randall Ainsworth
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Understanding Lighting Reply with quote

In article <41A98CAB.3060007@cox.net>, Bob Williams
<mytbobnospam@cox.net> wrote:

Quote:
I met him a few months ago at a Photoshop User Group meeting.
He was a presenter.
He is now deeply involved in Digital Photography and Photo editing.
I learned more about lighting in a 1hr. seminar from Dean (20 yrs ago)
than I learned in all the years previous, or since.

Not only is Dean Collins an outstanding photographer, but also quite a
showman. I went to one of his seminars where he had 3 Hasselblad
projectors and a huge screen. I would imagine that most of the things
he taught back then would apply toward digital today.
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Randall Ainsworth
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Understanding Lighting Reply with quote

In article <30tst1F321qqmU1@uni-berlin.de>, The Black Sheep
<mail@NOSPAMtheblacksheep.ws> wrote:

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http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1014&message=11226267

If that is accurate, Dean has terminal cancer and is currently in the
hospital.

Sad to hear if that's true. I didn't know until a few weeks ago that
Don Blair had died. I knew Don and he was a great guy as well as an
excellent photographer.
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JunkMonkey
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Understanding Lighting Reply with quote

"Simon Stanmore" <nomail@thanks.com> wrote in message >

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I'm of the opinion that an aspiring photographer really doesn't need books
or tuition to understand and control lighting. Long before ever setting
foot
in a studio you could be trying to work out lighting postions and forming
by
looking at other photog's work. Carefully observing and understanding
light
and shadow around you, its sources, distances, angles, temperatures,
reflections, etc., as well as figuring out how others have dealt with
their
images can teach you all you really need to know. This understanding of
light is the foundation of all visual art, not just photography. When I
first decided to take up photography I spent several weeks photographing
with household light sources such as lamps and torches to try to recreate
in
miniture what I thought was well lit photographs. The 'real' lighting
equipment can seem daunting but it's all very simple. Controlling a set of
monobloc's with light formers and a flash meter is something you'll get to
grips with in just an hour or so.
That all said you asked for a "basic introduction" and this can be found
from various links on this page... http://www.photo.net/learn/

You are right, at least theoretically. But it really depends on how you

learn best. Some people prefer to learn the "basics" in a structured
manner. For those people, books and classes are a valid learning source.
However, for every photographer there comes a point at which you must strike
out on your own. That is the only way that I know of to internalize what
you have learned and truly make it a part of you.
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Crownfield
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Understanding Lighting Reply with quote

Ken Davey wrote:
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Matt wrote:
Good post "dadiOH'.

I totally understand what you are saying, but you still need good
lighting initially.

Lighting is something which can not be easily be 'Photoshopped'.


"dadiOH" <dadiOH@xmail.net> wrote in message
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Believe it or not, your hand can help immensely. Hold it in front of
you and look - *really* look - at it. Look at the highlights and
shadows...their locations, intensities and characteristics. Figure
out *why* they are as they are...determine the sources. Now move
your head relative to your hand and see how things change. Once
again, figure out why.

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Tell you what Matt.
If you get a complete understanding of 'lighting' and how to use it in most
situations write a book. I will go on record as being the first to purchase
said book.

to be a master, read and understand "Light, Science and Magic "

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As others have pointed out - understanding lighting and using it to full
advantage to create photogrphic art is *the essence* of all this.
ART. Repeat after me ART!
Get a grip - be famous. Adams, Karsh et all.
Go for it.
Ken.

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