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Len Moskowitz
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Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:39 pm Post subject:
Re: HiMD update |
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Paul <tungarbulb@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Apart from flash media recorders, old-style Creative Nomad jukeboxes
with built-in line inputs and laptops with external audio interfaces,
what is there? AFAIK, the newer portables (Ipods, Nomad jukeboxes,
etc.) cannot record from a mic or line input.
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You might have a look at our PDAudio system:
www.core-sound.com/HighResRecorderNews.html
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Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
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Frank Vuotto
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:16 am Post subject:
Re: HiMD update |
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On 29 Nov 2004 13:36:46 -0500, moskowit@panix.com (Len Moskowitz)
wrote:
| Quote: | Following Sony's usual consumer product script, the MZ-NH1 will be
discontinued in roughly a year, not be economical to repair once it's
out of warranty, and parts for it will not be stocked after roughly
three years.
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Sony has settled with Ampex for $40 million over patent litigation
which relates to digital still and digital video cameras as well as
PDA's. Back in July this year Ampex announced that it was aiming to
block Sony from importing and selling products in the US which
contained Ampex's intellectual property. Ampex has already come to
license agreements with Canon, Sanyo and Kodak worth several tens of
millions of dollars. Ampex currently has outstanding litigation
against Kodak for violation of the same patents. It looks as though
Ampex will come out from these agreements with ongoing royalty
payments too. Their patents related to "image storage and retrieval". |
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John O
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:21 am Post subject:
Re: HiMD update |
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| Quote: | Following Sony's usual consumer product script, the MZ-NH1 will be
discontinued in roughly a year, not be economical to repair once it's
out of warranty, and parts for it will not be stocked after roughly
three years.
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You forgot proprietary storage media and software on par with hazardous
waste.
-John O |
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Noel Bachelor
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:21 am Post subject:
Re: HiMD update |
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On or about Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:42:00 +0100, Edi Zubovic <edi.zubovic[rem
this].@ri.htnet.hr> allegedly wrote:
| Quote: | HiMD records PCM in a file with the proprietary extension "*.oma". Up
to recently, Sonic Stage hasn't even been capable of transferring it
to any other usable format; it merely offered listening to a
transferred recording with its own player. It's a totally useless
approach. Oh yes, it offered burning a "ATRAC-CD" (???), the kind of
CD writing I don't bother to think about and I don't frankly know
where I could listen to such Atrac CD's.
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The other day I saw a glossy flogging CD & DVD players, and all the Sony
ones offered ATRAC-CD playback. I wondered what that might be for. Now I
suppose I know, though I don't think I'll go rushing out to get one.
Noel Bachelor noelbachelorAT(From:_domain)
Language Recordings Inc (Darwin Australia) |
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james of tucson
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:21 am Post subject:
Re: HiMD update |
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On 2004-11-27, Mike Rivers <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Well, the original Sony NetMD would certainly qualify. That was the
system that wouldn't let you transfer a file out of the USB port at
all unless it go on the Minidisk from the computer. In other words, no
file transfers of original recordings.
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I have a problem with anything that seeks to lock me out of my OWN
recordings of my OWN music.
It's their right to swing their fist, until it hits my nose. Their
copy protection infringes my rights when it forbids me to access my
own music.
Sony missed an opportunity to revolutionize the home recording industry here. |
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james of tucson
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:21 am Post subject:
Re: HiMD update |
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On 2004-11-29, Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I'm not surprised to read about the way Sony has crippled data transfer
out of their Hi-MD recorders and how they've selected a proprietrary
data format. Sony has no interest in making high quality home recording
and copying easy.
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I'd heard they had, and that you could use the new sony MD's as an
uninhibited digital recorder. Now I understand I was misinformed.
Pity. Perhaps nonvolatile storage devices like flash will reach the
price points such as currently held by minidisc or CDR. |
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james of tucson
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:21 am Post subject:
Re: HiMD update |
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On 2004-11-29, Frank Vuotto <deepthrob@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Well, they act like they own MINE too. All I want is easy access to my
own original recordings.
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I believe you could make a case that you have a fundamental right to
access your own recordings, and that Sony is abridging your rights by
actively preventing your access.
Okay, so nobody is going to hire Johnny Cochran to press the matter, but
I really do believe your rights (both copyright and first amendment, and
possibly others) are abridged by a deliberate act of Sony. Your rights
are fundamental, and trump whatever they think gives them the right to
abridge yours.
I may come across as a raving madman on this issue, but I am a
reasonable person, and I am totally serious.
I seriously believe that by locking YOU out of YOUR intellecutal
property, Sony is violating MY rights as well as yours. |
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Len Moskowitz
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:22 am Post subject:
Recommended PDAs for PDAudio (was Re: HiMD update) |
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Paul <tungarbulb@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Which PDA's do you recommend for the backbone of a PDA-based recording
system? What specs should I look for?
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The HP iPAQ h2215 and h2210 are reasonably priced (under $250) and very
small PDAs that works fine as a high resolution audio recorder. It
records to SD flash memory cards. With a single 1 GB card, it can
record 92 minutes at 16/44.1 (CD quality) or an hour at 24-bit/44.1. It
will easily fit into your shirt pocket with room to spare and also
supports 24/96 recording.
You can use more than one card for seamless, continuous recording for
pretty much as long as you like. Gidluck Mastering's Live2496 recording
program provides this neat feature.
And SanDisk (the flash memory manufacturer) says that their 2 GB SD
cards will be released before the end of the year. That will let you
double the recording time per card.
If you need recording times up to hundreds of hours, please contact us
for other system configurations.
--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912 |
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Bob Cain
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:22 am Post subject:
Re: HiMD update |
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james of tucson wrote:
| Quote: | On 2004-11-29, Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com> wrote:
I'm not surprised to read about the way Sony has crippled data transfer
out of their Hi-MD recorders and how they've selected a proprietrary
data format. Sony has no interest in making high quality home recording
and copying easy.
I'd heard they had, and that you could use the new sony MD's as an
uninhibited digital recorder. Now I understand I was misinformed.
Pity. Perhaps nonvolatile storage devices like flash will reach the
price points such as currently held by minidisc or CDR.
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You are only denied digital uploadability of recordings made
from the digital input of a HiMD. Granted, that's a big
_only_ if the pre's on the HiMD are as noisy as on previous
models.
Bob
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"Things should be described as simply as possible, but no
simpler."
A. Einstein |
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Paul
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:22 am Post subject:
Re: HiMD update |
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moskowit@panix.com (Len Moskowitz) wrote in message news:<cofqc9$hb0$1@panix2.panix.com>...
| Quote: | Paul <tungarbulb@yahoo.com> wrote:
Apart from flash media recorders, old-style Creative Nomad jukeboxes
with built-in line inputs and laptops with external audio interfaces,
what is there? AFAIK, the newer portables (Ipods, Nomad jukeboxes,
etc.) cannot record from a mic or line input.
You might have a look at our PDAudio system:
www.core-sound.com/HighResRecorderNews.html
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Which PDA's do you recommend for the backbone of a PDA-based recording
system? What specs should I look for?
- Paul |
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Kurt Albershardt
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:23 am Post subject:
Re: HiMD update |
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Frank Vuotto wrote:
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Sony has settled with Ampex for $40 million over patent litigation
which relates to digital still and digital video cameras as well as
PDA's. Back in July this year Ampex announced that it was aiming to
block Sony from importing and selling products in the US which
contained Ampex's intellectual property. Ampex has already come to
license agreements with Canon, Sanyo and Kodak worth several tens of
millions of dollars. Ampex currently has outstanding litigation
against Kodak for violation of the same patents. It looks as though
Ampex will come out from these agreements with ongoing royalty
payments too. Their patents related to "image storage and retrieval".
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....as anyone who ever worked with a VPR-3/Zeus would understand why. IMO it's always good to see actual pioneer patentholders (the ones with decades of manufacturing experience) receiving royalties--I've seen way too much paid of late on theoretical patents acquired by rollups. |
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Lars Farm
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject:
Re: HiMD update |
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james of tucson <fishbowl@radagast.home.conservatory.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 2004-11-29, Frank Vuotto <deepthrob@hotmail.com> wrote:
Well, they act like they own MINE too. All I want is easy access to my
own original recordings.
I believe you could make a case that you have a fundamental right to
access your own recordings, and that Sony is abridging your rights by
actively preventing your access.
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I agree that this makes the product worthless. So why buy it...? By
paying you accept Sony's offer and you have an agreement with Sony. Once
you have agreed, well ... you have accepted the restrictions.
Lars
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lars farm // http://www.farm.se
lars is also a mail-account on the server farm.se |
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Arny Krueger
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Tue Nov 30, 2004 6:07 pm Post subject:
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"Kurt Albershardt" <kurt@nv.net> wrote in message
news:312fnlF36jbkjU1@uni-berlin.de
| Quote: | IMO it's always good to see actual pioneer patentholders (the ones
with decades of manufacturing experience) receiving royalties--I've
seen way too much paid of late on theoretical patents acquired by
rollups.
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That probably won't make much of a dent in the financials of Sony, which had
$72 billion in sales for 2003. But Ampex's suit could net it some
much-needed money, since it lost $5.8 million in 2003 on sales of $43.4
million. "If Ampex gets even just a tiny percentage of Sony sales in
licensing fees, that would produce some serious revenue for Ampex," says
Bromberg.
Looks like some mining might be happening in this case:
http://www.forbes.com/infoimaging/2004/07/14/cx_pp_0714sony_ii.html
"Patent mining has become a popular activity in the tech sector," says
Future Image analyst Paul Worthington. "Digital imaging is particularly
vulnerable to this practice because it's such a hot business and because,
although no technology is built in a vacuum, digital imaging builds upon so
many previous technologies."
"But Ampex's suit could net it some much-needed money, since it lost $5.8
million in 2003 on sales of $43.4 million. "If Ampex gets even just a tiny
percentage of Sony sales in licensing fees, that would produce some serious
revenue for Ampex," says Bromberg. " |
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