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Sandra Beach
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:18 am    Post subject: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

I have been using Pinnacle Studio 9.5 plus for making DVDs and it worked
fine for my first few projects. Now... using the same everything (camera,
settings, etc) it just hangs up when trying to render for making a DVD. It
is frustrating and from what I read here, a common problem with Pinnacle.
It seems like Premiere Pro is liked a lot... but I can't afford the $700
price. Are there any good programs that is more reliable than Pinnacle and
less expensive than Premiere? (A LOT less expensive)
All I wish to do is to capture (using firewire), simple editing, add some
chapters and output to DVD. It would also be very nice (but I could live
without it) if I could make an uncopiable DVD as well. Does anyone have any
suggestions?

Sandra

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Donald Link
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

Wow, let me get this straight. You have been using Studio and it
worked fine, but now it does not. Is is possible that it not studio
the problem but something else.

On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:18:09 -0600, "Sandra Beach" <sbea@rrv.net>
wrote:

Quote:
I have been using Pinnacle Studio 9.5 plus for making DVDs and it worked
fine for my first few projects. Now... using the same everything (camera,
settings, etc) it just hangs up when trying to render for making a DVD. It
is frustrating and from what I read here, a common problem with Pinnacle.
It seems like Premiere Pro is liked a lot... but I can't afford the $700
price. Are there any good programs that is more reliable than Pinnacle and
less expensive than Premiere? (A LOT less expensive)
All I wish to do is to capture (using firewire), simple editing, add some
chapters and output to DVD. It would also be very nice (but I could live
without it) if I could make an uncopiable DVD as well. Does anyone have any
suggestions?

Sandra
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Richard Crowley
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

"Sandra Beach" <sbea@rrv.net> wrote in message
news:YKCdnVi0CcCnHu_enZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@onvoy.com...
Quote:
I have been using Pinnacle Studio 9.5 plus for making DVDs and it worked
fine for my first few projects. Now... using the same everything (camera,
settings, etc) it just hangs up when trying to render for making a DVD. It
is frustrating and from what I read here, a common problem with Pinnacle.
It seems like Premiere Pro is liked a lot... but I can't afford the $700
price. Are there any good programs that is more reliable than Pinnacle and
less expensive than Premiere? (A LOT less expensive)
All I wish to do is to capture (using firewire), simple editing, add some
chapters and output to DVD. It would also be very nice (but I could live
without it) if I could make an uncopiable DVD as well. Does anyone have
any suggestions?

Premiere Elements will likely do everything you need without all
the baggage of Premiere Pro.
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Sandra Beach
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

I wish I knew why it is hanging up right now. It edits great, I've added
the chapter marks, but I've tried 3 different times to render it and make a
DVD... the same exact process I went through several times before... and it
hangs up in the middle somewhere and just sits there. I found several
references to this happening in Pinnacle Studios in this site, as well as
complaints of the very same thing happening several places on the internet.
My first thought was "What am I doing wrong" and it still may well be me...
but I have no idea what it could be. I haven't done anything different.
The first thing I thought of to do was to shut down anything on my system
that might kick in unexpectedly and interfere. That hasn't made any
difference.
Do you have any ideas???
I'm still interested in other programs that are recommended by people who
use them. I don't totally buy into all the hype of advertisement.

"Donald Link" <linkd@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Wow, let me get this straight. You have been using Studio and it
worked fine, but now it does not. Is is possible that it not studio
the problem but something else.

On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:18:09 -0600, "Sandra Beach" <sbea@rrv.net
wrote:

I have been using Pinnacle Studio 9.5 plus for making DVDs and it worked
fine for my first few projects. Now... using the same everything (camera,
settings, etc) it just hangs up when trying to render for making a DVD.
It
is frustrating and from what I read here, a common problem with Pinnacle.
It seems like Premiere Pro is liked a lot... but I can't afford the $700
price. Are there any good programs that is more reliable than Pinnacle
and
less expensive than Premiere? (A LOT less expensive)
All I wish to do is to capture (using firewire), simple editing, add some
chapters and output to DVD. It would also be very nice (but I could live
without it) if I could make an uncopiable DVD as well. Does anyone have
any
suggestions?

Sandra
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Doc
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

"Sandra Beach" <sbea@rrv.net> wrote in message
news:DJadnesOVsOLU-_eRVn-uQ@onvoy.com...

Quote:
Do you have any ideas???
I'm still interested in other programs that are recommended by people who

Are you trying to burn with PS9 as well? Have you tried "create disc content
but don't burn" and use something else like Nero 6 to burn with?

Also, you might nose around the Pinnacle user forums. That's your most
likely place to find an answer. Pinnacle's actual tech support per say is
pretty useless for anything more involved than "How do I install Pinnacle
Studio?".
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Newbury
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

Sandra Beach wrote:
Quote:
I have been using Pinnacle Studio 9.5 plus for making DVDs and it
worked fine for my first few projects. Now... using the same
everything (camera, settings, etc) it just hangs up when trying to
render for making a DVD. It is frustrating and from what I read
here, a common problem with Pinnacle. It seems like Premiere Pro is
liked a lot... but I can't afford the $700 price. Are there any good
programs that is more reliable than Pinnacle and less expensive than
Premiere? (A LOT less expensive) All I wish to do is to capture (using
firewire), simple editing, add
some chapters and output to DVD. It would also be very nice (but I
could live without it) if I could make an uncopiable DVD as well. Does
anyone have any suggestions?

Sandra

It sounds like you may have to auxiliary files folder building up. Try to
move them to another drive or remove them altogether. Please post back if
this helps.
Newbury
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Lou van Wijhe
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

"Richard Crowley" <richard.7.crowley@intel.com> schreef in bericht
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Quote:

"Sandra Beach" <sbea@rrv.net> wrote in message
news:YKCdnVi0CcCnHu_enZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@onvoy.com...
I have been using Pinnacle Studio 9.5 plus for making DVDs and it worked
fine for my first few projects. Now... using the same everything (camera,
settings, etc) it just hangs up when trying to render for making a DVD.
It is frustrating and from what I read here, a common problem with
Pinnacle. It seems like Premiere Pro is liked a lot... but I can't afford
the $700 price. Are there any good programs that is more reliable than
Pinnacle and less expensive than Premiere? (A LOT less expensive)
All I wish to do is to capture (using firewire), simple editing, add some
chapters and output to DVD. It would also be very nice (but I could live
without it) if I could make an uncopiable DVD as well. Does anyone have
any suggestions?

Premiere Elements will likely do everything you need without all
the baggage of Premiere Pro.
I suppose it will.

I for myself are very content with EditStudio 5 for editing
(http://www.puremotion.com/index.htm) and DVD-lab for authoring
(http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/index.html). These are programs that are
both relatively cheap and yet offer a lot of functionality. Both companies
also offer them as a bundle.
--
Lou van Wijhe
Website: http://home.hccnet.nl/jl.van.wijhe/
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Sandra Beach
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but I'll be glad to try anything.
Please explain further....

"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:54KdnRoWZrq2hu7eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
Quote:
Sandra Beach wrote:
I have been using Pinnacle Studio 9.5 plus for making DVDs and it
worked fine for my first few projects. Now... using the same
everything (camera, settings, etc) it just hangs up when trying to
render for making a DVD. It is frustrating and from what I read
here, a common problem with Pinnacle. It seems like Premiere Pro is
liked a lot... but I can't afford the $700 price. Are there any good
programs that is more reliable than Pinnacle and less expensive than
Premiere? (A LOT less expensive) All I wish to do is to capture (using
firewire), simple editing, add
some chapters and output to DVD. It would also be very nice (but I
could live without it) if I could make an uncopiable DVD as well. Does
anyone have any suggestions?

Sandra

It sounds like you may have to auxiliary files folder building up. Try to
move them to another drive or remove them altogether. Please post back if
this helps.
Newbury
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Sandra Beach
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

Yes, I have been trying to burn. I did try to just save to an AVI... which
made it stall again... but I wasn't too sure if one COULD just save to an
AVI when I already had the chapter marks, etc, in it. No I haven't tried
the option you suggested, and am very willing to try that, too. I have Nero
5 (not 6) Would that work? I'm pretty new to this and am stumbling my way
through hoping to learn as I go along. Can one add a menu and chapter
marks in one program and have it follow along to another program to burn???
Or does one have to re-do the chapter markings?

"Doc" <docsavage20@xhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:foDcf.7113$m81.351@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
Quote:

"Sandra Beach" <sbea@rrv.net> wrote in message
news:DJadnesOVsOLU-_eRVn-uQ@onvoy.com...

Do you have any ideas???
I'm still interested in other programs that are recommended by people who

Are you trying to burn with PS9 as well? Have you tried "create disc
content
but don't burn" and use something else like Nero 6 to burn with?

Also, you might nose around the Pinnacle user forums. That's your most
likely place to find an answer. Pinnacle's actual tech support per say is
pretty useless for anything more involved than "How do I install Pinnacle
Studio?".

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Sandra Beach
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

Thank-you both Richard and Lou. I will definately check out all the
programs you both mentioned... and THANK-YOU for your response!

"Lou van Wijhe" <jl.van.wijhe@hccnet.invalid> wrote in message
news:43731cde$0$773$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl...
Quote:
"Richard Crowley" <richard.7.crowley@intel.com> schreef in bericht
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"Sandra Beach" <sbea@rrv.net> wrote in message
news:YKCdnVi0CcCnHu_enZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@onvoy.com...
I have been using Pinnacle Studio 9.5 plus for making DVDs and it worked
fine for my first few projects. Now... using the same everything
(camera, settings, etc) it just hangs up when trying to render for making
a DVD. It is frustrating and from what I read here, a common problem with
Pinnacle. It seems like Premiere Pro is liked a lot... but I can't afford
the $700 price. Are there any good programs that is more reliable than
Pinnacle and less expensive than Premiere? (A LOT less expensive)
All I wish to do is to capture (using firewire), simple editing, add
some chapters and output to DVD. It would also be very nice (but I
could live without it) if I could make an uncopiable DVD as well. Does
anyone have any suggestions?

Premiere Elements will likely do everything you need without all
the baggage of Premiere Pro.
I suppose it will.
I for myself are very content with EditStudio 5 for editing
(http://www.puremotion.com/index.htm) and DVD-lab for authoring
(http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/index.html). These are programs that
are both relatively cheap and yet offer a lot of functionality. Both
companies also offer them as a bundle.
--
Lou van Wijhe
Website: http://home.hccnet.nl/jl.van.wijhe/
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Sandra Beach
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

OK... that was dumb, and, no, I am not blond. It already WAS in AVI form,
so I don't know where my mind was when I tried that one. Sorry...

"Sandra Beach" <sbea@rrv.net> wrote in message
news:RZadnWIV_Mv-0O7eRVn-ug@onvoy.com...
Quote:
Yes, I have been trying to burn. I did try to just save to an AVI...
which made it stall again... but I wasn't too sure if one COULD just save
to an AVI when I already had the chapter marks, etc, in it. No I haven't
tried the option you suggested, and am very willing to try that, too. I
have Nero 5 (not 6) Would that work? I'm pretty new to this and am
stumbling my way through hoping to learn as I go along. Can one add a
menu and chapter marks in one program and have it follow along to another
program to burn??? Or does one have to re-do the chapter markings?

"Doc" <docsavage20@xhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:foDcf.7113$m81.351@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...

"Sandra Beach" <sbea@rrv.net> wrote in message
news:DJadnesOVsOLU-_eRVn-uQ@onvoy.com...

Do you have any ideas???
I'm still interested in other programs that are recommended by people
who

Are you trying to burn with PS9 as well? Have you tried "create disc
content
but don't burn" and use something else like Nero 6 to burn with?

Also, you might nose around the Pinnacle user forums. That's your most
likely place to find an answer. Pinnacle's actual tech support per say is
pretty useless for anything more involved than "How do I install Pinnacle
Studio?".



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RS
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

Sandra Beach wrote:
Quote:
Thank-you both Richard and Lou. I will definately check out all the
programs you both mentioned... and THANK-YOU for your response!

"Lou van Wijhe" <jl.van.wijhe@hccnet.invalid> wrote in message
news:43731cde$0$773$3a628fcd@reader10.nntp.hccnet.nl...

"Richard Crowley" <richard.7.crowley@intel.com> schreef in bericht
news:dkumce$lb3$1@news01.intel.com...

"Sandra Beach" <sbea@rrv.net> wrote in message
news:YKCdnVi0CcCnHu_enZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@onvoy.com...

I have been using Pinnacle Studio 9.5 plus for making DVDs and it worked
fine for my first few projects. Now... using the same everything
(camera, settings, etc) it just hangs up when trying to render for making
a DVD. It is frustrating and from what I read here, a common problem with
Pinnacle. It seems like Premiere Pro is liked a lot... but I can't afford
the $700 price. Are there any good programs that is more reliable than
Pinnacle and less expensive than Premiere? (A LOT less expensive)
All I wish to do is to capture (using firewire), simple editing, add
some chapters and output to DVD. It would also be very nice (but I
could live without it) if I could make an uncopiable DVD as well. Does
anyone have any suggestions?

Premiere Elements will likely do everything you need without all
the baggage of Premiere Pro.

I suppose it will.
I for myself are very content with EditStudio 5 for editing
(http://www.puremotion.com/index.htm) and DVD-lab for authoring
(http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/index.html). These are programs that
are both relatively cheap and yet offer a lot of functionality. Both
companies also offer them as a bundle.
--
Lou van Wijhe
Website: http://home.hccnet.nl/jl.van.wijhe/
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Sony has their Vegas Movie Studio program in the $100 range, and there
are a number of others in the arena as well. The entry level DVD
creation area is well represented with several programs that will take
you all the way from capture to burn.
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Newbury
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

Sandra Beach wrote:
Quote:
I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but I'll be glad to try anything.
Please explain further....

"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:54KdnRoWZrq2hu7eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
Sandra Beach wrote:
I have been using Pinnacle Studio 9.5 plus for making DVDs and it
worked fine for my first few projects. Now... using the same
everything (camera, settings, etc) it just hangs up when trying to
render for making a DVD. It is frustrating and from what I read
here, a common problem with Pinnacle. It seems like Premiere Pro is
liked a lot... but I can't afford the $700 price. Are there any
good programs that is more reliable than Pinnacle and less
expensive than Premiere? (A LOT less expensive) All I wish to do is
to capture (using firewire), simple editing, add
some chapters and output to DVD. It would also be very nice (but I
could live without it) if I could make an uncopiable DVD as well.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Sandra

It sounds like you may have to auxiliary files folder building up.
Try to move them to another drive or remove them altogether. Please
post back if this helps.
Newbury

Look for Auxiliary files that build up when you use Pinnacle. You need room
for these files and if the software can not find them the program will hang.
You can delete the contents of the folders or move them and see if that
helps.
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Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:28:16 -0500, "Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com>
wrote:

Quote:
Sandra Beach wrote:
I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but I'll be glad to try anything.
Please explain further....

"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:54KdnRoWZrq2hu7eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
Sandra Beach wrote:
I have been using Pinnacle Studio 9.5 plus for making DVDs and it
worked fine for my first few projects. Now... using the same
everything (camera, settings, etc) it just hangs up when trying to
render for making a DVD. It is frustrating and from what I read
here, a common problem with Pinnacle. It seems like Premiere Pro is
liked a lot... but I can't afford the $700 price. Are there any
good programs that is more reliable than Pinnacle and less
expensive than Premiere? (A LOT less expensive) All I wish to do is
to capture (using firewire), simple editing, add
some chapters and output to DVD. It would also be very nice (but I
could live without it) if I could make an uncopiable DVD as well.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Sandra

It sounds like you may have to auxiliary files folder building up.
Try to move them to another drive or remove them altogether. Please
post back if this helps.
Newbury

Look for Auxiliary files that build up when you use Pinnacle. You need room
for these files and if the software can not find them the program will hang.
You can delete the contents of the folders or move them and see if that
helps.



I am having the same problems as Sandra. Where could I find the
Auxillary files for Pinnacle 10 that you are talking about so I can
delete them?

Thanks in advance
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Newbury
Guest





Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Good software between Pinnacle and Premiere??? Reply with quote

Dilbert D. Danglewiggy wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:28:16 -0500, "Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com
wrote:

Sandra Beach wrote:
I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but I'll be glad to try
anything. Please explain further....

"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:54KdnRoWZrq2hu7eRVn-tw@comcast.com...
Sandra Beach wrote:
I have been using Pinnacle Studio 9.5 plus for making DVDs and it
worked fine for my first few projects. Now... using the same
everything (camera, settings, etc) it just hangs up when trying to
render for making a DVD. It is frustrating and from what I read
here, a common problem with Pinnacle. It seems like Premiere Pro
is liked a lot... but I can't afford the $700 price. Are there
any good programs that is more reliable than Pinnacle and less
expensive than Premiere? (A LOT less expensive) All I wish to do
is to capture (using firewire), simple editing, add
some chapters and output to DVD. It would also be very nice (but
I could live without it) if I could make an uncopiable DVD as
well. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Sandra

It sounds like you may have to auxiliary files folder building up.
Try to move them to another drive or remove them altogether. Please
post back if this helps.
Newbury

Look for Auxiliary files that build up when you use Pinnacle. You
need room for these files and if the software can not find them the
program will hang. You can delete the contents of the folders or
move them and see if that helps.



I am having the same problems as Sandra. Where could I find the
Auxillary files for Pinnacle 10 that you are talking about so I can
delete them?

Thanks in advance

Search. They would be on the drive you assigned to be the capture drive. I
hope I don't have to mention that it does not hurt to defrag. Some do this
each time they are about to start a project but it depends on how much and
often this is done and will not take as long if it is done more often. If
you are going to burn the same content it is good to create an image and
burn from that. Sometimes even if you are only going to burn once it may
solve some issues.

HTH
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