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Saxology
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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I need to pick up a wireless mic for a sax. The choices are a bit thin as
it seems vocals command the highest sales. I have narrowed it down some and
the lowest cost ($500) is the Shure PGX14/BETA98H (
http://www.shure.com/wireless/pgx/default.asp#instrument ). Their more
expensive unit (more like $800 - $900) uses the same Beta98 mic, just
different radios. It is more than I wanted to spend and if you limit the
solutions to AA batteries instead of 9VDC the choices are few.
What do you think of the PGX14 radios? It is Shure's "performance Gear"
line which is, low cost. I generally don't use the PG line of theirs.
Opinions and options appreciated.
-Sax
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Saxology
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
Re: Wireless Instrument Mic Recommendation |
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"Jason Lavoie" <jlavoie@engsoc.org> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 02:51:54 GMT, "Saxology" <saxology2000@yahoo.com
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I need to pick up a wireless mic for a sax. The choices are a bit thin as
it seems vocals command the highest sales. I have narrowed it down some
and
the lowest cost ($500) is the Shure PGX14/BETA98H (
http://www.shure.com/wireless/pgx/default.asp#instrument ). Their more
expensive unit (more like $800 - $900) uses the same Beta98 mic, just
different radios. It is more than I wanted to spend and if you limit the
solutions to AA batteries instead of 9VDC the choices are few.
What do you think of the PGX14 radios? It is Shure's "performance Gear"
line which is, low cost. I generally don't use the PG line of theirs.
Opinions and options appreciated.
-Sax
don't confuse the PG line of mics with the PGX wireless.. it is far
better than their previous entry level UHF system. I really like them.
and wish I hadn't have spent all the money I did on ULX when they
first came out. the added features are only useful every now and then
when you use a bunch of them together.
Jason
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Also, I would have to go with the UHF radios to stay away from the 9V. I
have searched my usual vendors and the UHF isn't stocked. The price....
well lets just say it will be costly.
-Sax |
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Jason Lavoie
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
Re: Wireless Instrument Mic Recommendation |
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 02:51:54 GMT, "Saxology" <saxology2000@yahoo.com>
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| Quote: | I need to pick up a wireless mic for a sax. The choices are a bit thin as
it seems vocals command the highest sales. I have narrowed it down some and
the lowest cost ($500) is the Shure PGX14/BETA98H (
http://www.shure.com/wireless/pgx/default.asp#instrument ). Their more
expensive unit (more like $800 - $900) uses the same Beta98 mic, just
different radios. It is more than I wanted to spend and if you limit the
solutions to AA batteries instead of 9VDC the choices are few.
What do you think of the PGX14 radios? It is Shure's "performance Gear"
line which is, low cost. I generally don't use the PG line of theirs.
Opinions and options appreciated.
-Sax
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don't confuse the PG line of mics with the PGX wireless.. it is far
better than their previous entry level UHF system. I really like them.
and wish I hadn't have spent all the money I did on ULX when they
first came out. the added features are only useful every now and then
when you use a bunch of them together.
Jason |
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Doug Moran
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:55 am Post subject:
Re: Wireless Instrument Mic Recommendation |
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In article <epUbf.6259$m81.4189@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Saxology" <saxology2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I need to pick up a wireless mic for a sax. The choices are a bit thin as
it seems vocals command the highest sales. I have narrowed it down some and
the lowest cost ($500) is the Shure PGX14/BETA98H (
http://www.shure.com/wireless/pgx/default.asp#instrument ). Their more
expensive unit (more like $800 - $900) uses the same Beta98 mic, just
different radios. It is more than I wanted to spend and if you limit the
solutions to AA batteries instead of 9VDC the choices are few.
What do you think of the PGX14 radios? It is Shure's "performance Gear"
line which is, low cost. I generally don't use the PG line of theirs.
Opinions and options appreciated.
-Sax
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Sax,
Have you priced these units from your dealer? I bought a PGX24/SM58 and
a PGX24/SM86 earlier this summer from Full Compass. The "U.S. User Net"
price on their web site is $558 and $638 respectively. I paid less than
60% of that - the prices I paid are not handy right now. I did have to
pay another $25 or so for a one space rack shelf that holds the
receivers - and I was told they were included. They come is a molded
carrying case with foam cutouts if you are interested in those.
They have been good solid units. "AA" batteries are cheaper than 9V,
and I usually use a fresh set each time since they cost less.
Performance has been great, the auto frequency select has worked fine,
and syncing the receiver to the transmitter works fine. Only problem
I've had is some users can't get the hang of depressing the switch to
mute and unmute the mic.
Doug |
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Marc Amsterdam
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:00 pm Post subject:
Re: Wireless Instrument Mic Recommendation |
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 02:51:54 GMT, "Saxology" <saxology2000@yahoo.com>
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| Quote: | I need to pick up a wireless mic for a sax. The choices are a bit thin as
it seems vocals command the highest sales. I have narrowed it down some and
the lowest cost ($500) is the Shure PGX14/BETA98H (
http://www.shure.com/wireless/pgx/default.asp#instrument ). Their more
expensive unit (more like $800 - $900) uses the same Beta98 mic, just
different radios. It is more than I wanted to spend and if you limit the
solutions to AA batteries instead of 9VDC the choices are few.
What do you think of the PGX14 radios? It is Shure's "performance Gear"
line which is, low cost. I generally don't use the PG line of theirs.
Opinions and options appreciated.
-Sax
there is reaaly only one way to go |
www.sdsystems.com
just about every big name in the saxophone world play's with them
And the sound is way over what ANY other manufacturer achieves.
a complete set including a sennheiser evolution series would set you
back some 900 euro's
( and i'm popping over to pick up an LCM110 there )
you can also order them through www.thomann.de
cheers
Marc |
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Jason Lavoie
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject:
Re: Wireless Instrument Mic Recommendation |
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On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 03:04:09 GMT, "Saxology" <saxology2000@yahoo.com>
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"Jason Lavoie" <jlavoie@engsoc.org> wrote in message
news:1250n1lqbr295ecr4jd784kcqu6b78f9bv@4ax.com...
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 02:51:54 GMT, "Saxology" <saxology2000@yahoo.com
wrote:
I need to pick up a wireless mic for a sax. The choices are a bit thin as
it seems vocals command the highest sales. I have narrowed it down some
and
the lowest cost ($500) is the Shure PGX14/BETA98H (
http://www.shure.com/wireless/pgx/default.asp#instrument ). Their more
expensive unit (more like $800 - $900) uses the same Beta98 mic, just
different radios. It is more than I wanted to spend and if you limit the
solutions to AA batteries instead of 9VDC the choices are few.
What do you think of the PGX14 radios? It is Shure's "performance Gear"
line which is, low cost. I generally don't use the PG line of theirs.
Opinions and options appreciated.
-Sax
don't confuse the PG line of mics with the PGX wireless.. it is far
better than their previous entry level UHF system. I really like them.
and wish I hadn't have spent all the money I did on ULX when they
first came out. the added features are only useful every now and then
when you use a bunch of them together.
Jason
Also, I would have to go with the UHF radios to stay away from the 9V. I
have searched my usual vendors and the UHF isn't stocked. The price....
well lets just say it will be costly.
-Sax
the PGX series uses AA. and I believe the SLX does as well |
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Bob Urz
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject:
Re: Wireless Instrument Mic Recommendation |
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Saxology wrote:
| Quote: | I need to pick up a wireless mic for a sax. The choices are a bit thin as
it seems vocals command the highest sales. I have narrowed it down some and
the lowest cost ($500) is the Shure PGX14/BETA98H (
http://www.shure.com/wireless/pgx/default.asp#instrument ). Their more
expensive unit (more like $800 - $900) uses the same Beta98 mic, just
different radios. It is more than I wanted to spend and if you limit the
solutions to AA batteries instead of 9VDC the choices are few.
What do you think of the PGX14 radios? It is Shure's "performance Gear"
line which is, low cost. I generally don't use the PG line of theirs.
Opinions and options appreciated.
-Sax
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While there is nothing wrong with the PGX, There usable. But a level
below what i would be looking at. I would be thinking more like SLX
or ULX. If your in the US, i can shoot you pricing.
Bob
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Karl Winkler
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:59 am Post subject:
Re: Wireless Instrument Mic Recommendation |
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Marc Amsterdam wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 02:51:54 GMT, "Saxology" <saxology2000@yahoo.com
wrote:
I need to pick up a wireless mic for a sax. The choices are a bit thin as
it seems vocals command the highest sales. I have narrowed it down some and
the lowest cost ($500) is the Shure PGX14/BETA98H (
http://www.shure.com/wireless/pgx/default.asp#instrument ). Their more
expensive unit (more like $800 - $900) uses the same Beta98 mic, just
different radios. It is more than I wanted to spend and if you limit the
solutions to AA batteries instead of 9VDC the choices are few.
What do you think of the PGX14 radios? It is Shure's "performance Gear"
line which is, low cost. I generally don't use the PG line of theirs.
Opinions and options appreciated.
-Sax
there is reaaly only one way to go
www.sdsystems.com
just about every big name in the saxophone world play's with them
And the sound is way over what ANY other manufacturer achieves.
a complete set including a sennheiser evolution series would set you
back some 900 euro's
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You may also want to look at AMT (Applied Microphone Technology) Their
Roam Elite is very nice and seems to also be used by "every big name in
the saxophone world":
http://www.appliedmic.com/
Karl Winkler
Lectrosonics, Inc.
http://www.lectrosonics.com |
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Saxology
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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"Bob Urz" <sound@inetnebr.com> wrote in message
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Saxology wrote:
I need to pick up a wireless mic for a sax. The choices are a bit thin
as it seems vocals command the highest sales. I have narrowed it down
some and the lowest cost ($500) is the Shure PGX14/BETA98H (
http://www.shure.com/wireless/pgx/default.asp#instrument ). Their more
expensive unit (more like $800 - $900) uses the same Beta98 mic, just
different radios. It is more than I wanted to spend and if you limit the
solutions to AA batteries instead of 9VDC the choices are few.
What do you think of the PGX14 radios? It is Shure's "performance Gear"
line which is, low cost. I generally don't use the PG line of theirs.
Opinions and options appreciated.
-Sax
While there is nothing wrong with the PGX, There usable. But a level below
what i would be looking at. I would be thinking more like SLX
or ULX. If your in the US, i can shoot you pricing.
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ULX is 9V. The SLX has features that I don't think I really need (LCD is
the big one). Is the radio perfoamance of the SLX better? Or, what
features(s) of the SLX do think make it a better option than the PGX?
-Sax |
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Bob Urz
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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Saxology wrote:
| Quote: | "Bob Urz" <sound@inetnebr.com> wrote in message
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Saxology wrote:
I need to pick up a wireless mic for a sax. The choices are a bit thin
as it seems vocals command the highest sales. I have narrowed it down
some and the lowest cost ($500) is the Shure PGX14/BETA98H (
http://www.shure.com/wireless/pgx/default.asp#instrument ). Their more
expensive unit (more like $800 - $900) uses the same Beta98 mic, just
different radios. It is more than I wanted to spend and if you limit the
solutions to AA batteries instead of 9VDC the choices are few.
What do you think of the PGX14 radios? It is Shure's "performance Gear"
line which is, low cost. I generally don't use the PG line of theirs.
Opinions and options appreciated.
-Sax
While there is nothing wrong with the PGX, There usable. But a level below
what i would be looking at. I would be thinking more like SLX
or ULX. If your in the US, i can shoot you pricing.
Bob
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ULX is 9V. The SLX has features that I don't think I really need (LCD is
the big one). Is the radio performance of the SLX better? Or, what
features(s) of the SLX do think make it a better option than the PGX?
-Sax
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The max number of systems on PGX is 12. Its 20 on SLX.
The SLX has a better RF front end. SLX can rack mount and
manifold. It has real rear mounted antennas.
Don't get me wrong, the PGX doesn't suck like the old plastic
nadys that belonged in radio shack. If your only using one
and not rack mounting it, it probably doesn't matter.
If your going to use more than a couple and mix them with
other RF i would buy the better units.
As far as ULX, i like the battery power displays on them.
You know in a flash if your in trouble of losing one.
On the P, you can see the actual frequency in MHZ on the display.
I just sold a school 8 ULXP and they did a musical.
8 lavs in a high school is usually a recipe for trouble.
They were happy, and got though the show with no problems.
(Of course, the DFR22 notched out helped...)
You cannot go wrong with any of the units. But i am a firm believer
in getting as much performance as you can possibly afford. And it all
depends on your end application and what else is around RF wise.
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Saxology
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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I happen to know one of the Roam Signature artists. He claims that they use
the Shure Beta98 in their product. The main claim is their holder/mounting.
He told me to get the Shure and save some $$. Shure seems to recommend the
Beta98 for all of the instrument applications (woodwinds and brass). I like
Shure products (shit, I see a flame on the way) but I am just very unsure
about the radios.
-Sax |
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Sound Doctrine
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:02 pm Post subject:
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The SLX series has worked very well for any application that I've
thrown at it. The frequency range and response has been outstanding.
I have had no drop outs or interference. The AA batteries have held up
better than any 9 volt wireless that I have used (Audio-Technica,
Shure). I have not used the Beta98H mic with my body packs so I can't
speak for their quality but the receivers have been rock solid. BTW
that's a good price on the PGX14/Beta98H package. |
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Marc Amsterdam
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On 8 Nov 2005 12:59:17 -0800, "Karl Winkler" <karlwinkler66@yahoo.com>
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Marc Amsterdam wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 02:51:54 GMT, "Saxology" <saxology2000@yahoo.com
wrote:
I need to pick up a wireless mic for a sax. The choices are a bit thin as
it seems vocals command the highest sales. I have narrowed it down some and
the lowest cost ($500) is the Shure PGX14/BETA98H (
http://www.shure.com/wireless/pgx/default.asp#instrument ). Their more
expensive unit (more like $800 - $900) uses the same Beta98 mic, just
different radios. It is more than I wanted to spend and if you limit the
solutions to AA batteries instead of 9VDC the choices are few.
What do you think of the PGX14 radios? It is Shure's "performance Gear"
line which is, low cost. I generally don't use the PG line of theirs.
Opinions and options appreciated.
-Sax
there is reaaly only one way to go
www.sdsystems.com
just about every big name in the saxophone world play's with them
And the sound is way over what ANY other manufacturer achieves.
a complete set including a sennheiser evolution series would set you
back some 900 euro's
You may also want to look at AMT (Applied Microphone Technology) Their
Roam Elite is very nice and seems to also be used by "every big name in
the saxophone world":
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i've heard them and they are very OK, thing is that sd systems is
right around the corner here and also makes very OK mic's
and if you want to go wireless they adapt it for your sennheiser
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Tim Scott
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:43 am Post subject:
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"Karl Winkler" <karlwinkler66@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | You may also want to look at AMT (Applied Microphone Technology) Their
Roam Elite is very nice and seems to also be used by "every big name in
the saxophone world":
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I have a set of 4 of thier LS mics on here. I have never used them though.
What has put me off, is that the mics are terminated with a jack, to plug
into a cheap plastic box thing, rather than into an XLR. The box takes a
battery to power the mic. I would prefer to be able to plug them in
normally and phantom them, rather than have a battery to worry about running
out, in a plastic box that feels like it is going to break easily. |
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mackerr
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Tim Scott wrote:
| Quote: | I have a set of 4 of thier LS mics on here. I have never used them though.
What has put me off, is that the mics are terminated with a jack, to plug
into a cheap plastic box thing, rather than into an XLR. The box takes a
battery to power the mic. I would prefer to be able to plug them in
normally and phantom them, rather than have a battery to worry about running
out, in a plastic box that feels like it is going to break easily.
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Is that all there is in the box? I have seen other dedicated instrument
mics that had specific eq in the box that interfaced between the mic
and the mic cable.
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