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Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject:
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I'm currently using a fairly high quality composite cable (white red yellow) to connect my DVD
player via component outputs to the TV's component inputs. It seems to work OK.
Would I get a better picture quality if I were to buy a proper set of component cables or is the
whole cable thing a bit of a scam?
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geoff
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject:
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if the cable is under 5metres it doesnt matter, wont make any difference
<grumpy@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I'm currently using a fairly high quality composite cable (white red
yellow) to connect my DVD
player via component outputs to the TV's component inputs. It seems to
work OK.
Would I get a better picture quality if I were to buy a proper set of
component cables or is the
whole cable thing a bit of a scam?
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bassett
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject:
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People have writern books on the subjects of cables // interconnects
and wet string.
Frankly I think there a scam,, Monstar cables, use Soundlink brand
cable for speakers interconnects with fancy plugs, and triple the price, of
the cable and a few plugs.
I use RG 6 with 8mm entry RCA plugs for my interconnects , and some of
them are only 6 inches long. and frankly I fail to see that anything a
metre long could be any better.
bassett
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| Quote: | I'm currently using a fairly high quality composite cable (white red
yellow) to connect my DVD
player via component outputs to the TV's component inputs. It seems to
work OK.
Would I get a better picture quality if I were to buy a proper set of
component cables or is the
whole cable thing a bit of a scam?
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Alex broden
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:42 pm Post subject:
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Gte Some Monstor cables. They will make you TV High Definintion and
make it 3D WOW :)
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:23:42 +1030, "geoff" <geoffbickle@yahoo.com>
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| Quote: | if the cable is under 5metres it doesnt matter, wont make any difference
grumpy@mailinator.com> wrote in message
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I'm currently using a fairly high quality composite cable (white red
yellow) to connect my DVD
player via component outputs to the TV's component inputs. It seems to
work OK.
Would I get a better picture quality if I were to buy a proper set of
component cables or is the
whole cable thing a bit of a scam?
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19Hz
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:44 am Post subject:
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I work for a company that installs professional Audio-Visual systems. If
your cables are good, then buying 'better' cables will give you a
better result. Heres the catch.
For $30 retail you can get some pretty swanky Component Cables that
will do a good job. Do you want to pay an extra couple of hundred
dollars to buy some 'Monster' Brand Cables? Isn't that money better
spent on a DVD player with Up-Scaling, better colour depth or motion
tracking?
If you really want to go the next step, the Audioholics Website has
some great articles about cables and whats what. Here is one regarding
Component cables. This goes into some huge detail, but it will teach
you a lot:
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/interconnects/componentvideocables.php
In my opinion, If you go to Jaycar, you can get some pretty good cables
at a much more reasonable price. If you think they are inferior, take
them to Harvy Norman and ask a sales rep to show you the difference. If
they wont, then I'd say they know the difference isn't percievable (or
is, but not worth the cost).
Alex Broden mentioned a rough figure of 5 meters and under for cables
to be less noticable, but it depends what type of cable it is, and what
you are sending down it... RGBHV (Computer) is only good to about
30m.
Coax (Component) is good for over 100meters.
When HDMi becomes common, they say the distance can go up to 20m, but
no one seems to be producing cable sover 10m yet...
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19Hz
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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Bassett:
RG6 is Master Antennae cables (RG11 is breakout MATV cable), RG59 is
teh Coax for video isn't it?
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John
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:03 pm Post subject:
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grumpy@mailinator.com wrote:
| Quote: | I'm currently using a fairly high quality composite cable (white red yellow) to connect my DVD
player via component outputs to the TV's component inputs. It seems to work OK.
Would I get a better picture quality if I were to buy a proper set of component cables or is the
whole cable thing a bit of a scam?
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Hi, yes, upgrading to a quality set of component cables will be better
than your current composite cable setup. Just don't go overboard with
the price. Like someone else said, Jaycar have some decent quality
interconnects that wont break the bank and will be just as good for most
punters as some of the high priced stuff.
Take what everyone else says with a grain of salt. Quality of
interconnects does increase the quality (or decreases the degradation
more to the point) of the signal, but there's lots of other factors
involved, such as the quality of the source and destination device(s).
For example, it's probably not much use putting $1000 cables on a Teac
player. However, if you're talking some of the exotic separate
components with outboard DAC's... well....
Also, as with most things, this is also a case of diminishing returns.
A bit like cars, you can spend $100 and get a lot of power from a turbo,
but the next few horsepower will cost thousands...
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Fraser Johnston
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject:
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"John" <nospam@afp.gov.au> wrote in message
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| Quote: | grumpy@mailinator.com wrote:
I'm currently using a fairly high quality composite cable (white red
yellow) to connect my DVD
player via component outputs to the TV's component inputs. It seems to
work OK.
Would I get a better picture quality if I were to buy a proper set of
component cables or is the
whole cable thing a bit of a scam?
Hi, yes, upgrading to a quality set of component cables will be better
than your current composite cable setup. Just don't go overboard with the
price. Like someone else said, Jaycar have some decent quality
interconnects that wont break the bank and will be just as good for most
punters as some of the high priced stuff.
Take what everyone else says with a grain of salt. Quality of
interconnects does increase the quality (or decreases the degradation more
to the point) of the signal, but there's lots of other factors involved,
such as the quality of the source and destination device(s). For example,
it's probably not much use putting $1000 cables on a Teac player.
However, if you're talking some of the exotic separate components with
outboard DAC's... well....
Also, as with most things, this is also a case of diminishing returns. A
bit like cars, you can spend $100 and get a lot of power from a turbo, but
the next few horsepower will cost thousands...
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Where do I get one of these $100 turbos. ; )
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John
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:04 pm Post subject:
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Fraser Johnston wrote:
| Quote: | "John" <nospam@afp.gov.au> wrote in message
news:4371aede$1@mail.netspeed.com.au...
grumpy@mailinator.com wrote:
I'm currently using a fairly high quality composite cable (white red
yellow) to connect my DVD
player via component outputs to the TV's component inputs. It seems to
work OK.
Would I get a better picture quality if I were to buy a proper set of
component cables or is the
whole cable thing a bit of a scam?
Hi, yes, upgrading to a quality set of component cables will be better
than your current composite cable setup. Just don't go overboard with the
price. Like someone else said, Jaycar have some decent quality
interconnects that wont break the bank and will be just as good for most
punters as some of the high priced stuff.
Take what everyone else says with a grain of salt. Quality of
interconnects does increase the quality (or decreases the degradation more
to the point) of the signal, but there's lots of other factors involved,
such as the quality of the source and destination device(s). For example,
it's probably not much use putting $1000 cables on a Teac player.
However, if you're talking some of the exotic separate components with
outboard DAC's... well....
Also, as with most things, this is also a case of diminishing returns. A
bit like cars, you can spend $100 and get a lot of power from a turbo, but
the next few horsepower will cost thousands...
Where do I get one of these $100 turbos. ; )
Fraser
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LOL... How it should have read was "you can spend $100 and get a lot of
power from a turbo (eg. by putting in a variable boost valve)"....
Meaning that the car already had a turbo...! :-) |
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mattic
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:06 pm Post subject:
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| Yes. |
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Olfda Lertih
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:56 pm Post subject:
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At Harveys we are expected to sell monster, I try and avoid it as me
talking up monster involves me lying and I don't like lying to people.
$300 HDMI monster vs $30 HDMI? I haven't seen a difference full stop.
I run 10m of Maxcable to my projector picture with that is no different
than 10m of Monster-3 10M, price difference? a few hundred dollars.
Monster has massive mark ups,
ie Monster THX 1m cost $55 inc gst, sell $99 Monster 3 10m cost around
$300-400 mark, sells for around $700
PureAV by Belkin is very monster like, has monster like packaging,
sells at similar prices but has way better markup, also you can
discount pureAV's stuff alot more, Monster is HIGHLY discouraged from
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Olfda Lertih
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:43 am Post subject:
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| A stolen turbo can cost $100 |
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Fraser Johnston
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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"bassett" <bassett@bassettskennel.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Why not discuss it on here,, in our new Audio section.
http://www.wga.plt-hosting.com/register.php?do=signup
Add a few pictures of what your talking about, discuss everything ,
quality , price, etc. and you will get expert opinions from people that
own the good Hi-end stuff
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Beacause I like usenet. Even if it has Phil Allison on it.
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bassett
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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"Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in message
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"John" <nospam@afp.gov.au> wrote in message
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grumpy@mailinator.com wrote:
I'm currently using a fairly high quality composite cable (white red
yellow) to connect my DVD
player via component outputs to the TV's component inputs. It seems to
work OK.
Would I get a better picture quality if I were to buy a proper set of
component cables or is the
whole cable thing a bit of a scam?
Hi, yes, upgrading to a quality set of component cables will be better
than your current composite cable setup. Just don't go overboard with
the price. Like someone else said, Jaycar have some decent quality
interconnects that wont break the bank and will be just as good for most
punters as some of the high priced stuff.
Take what everyone else says with a grain of salt. Quality of
interconnects does increase the quality (or decreases the degradation
more to the point) of the signal, but there's lots of other factors
involved, such as the quality of the source and destination device(s).
For example, it's probably not much use putting $1000 cables on a Teac
player. However, if you're talking some of the exotic separate components
with outboard DAC's... well....
Also, as with most things, this is also a case of diminishing returns. A
bit like cars, you can spend $100 and get a lot of power from a turbo,
but the next few horsepower will cost thousands...
Where do I get one of these $100 turbos. ; )
Fraser
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Why not discuss it on here,, in our new Audio section.
http://www.wga.plt-hosting.com/register.php?do=signup
Add a few pictures of what your talking about, discuss everything , quality
, price, etc. and you will get expert opinions from people that own the
good Hi-end stuff
bassett |
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bassett
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:52 am Post subject:
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"Fraser Johnston" <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote in message
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"bassett" <bassett@bassettskennel.com> wrote in message
news:437550a8@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
Why not discuss it on here,, in our new Audio section.
http://www.wga.plt-hosting.com/register.php?do=signup
Add a few pictures of what your talking about, discuss everything ,
quality , price, etc. and you will get expert opinions from people that
own the good Hi-end stuff
Beacause I like usenet. Even if it has Phil Allison on it.
Fraser
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That's the very reason I set up the forum, It's PA free.
http://www.wga.plt-hosting.com/register.php?do=signup
bassett |
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