| Author |
Message |
woodsonlateral
Guest
|
 Posted:
Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject:
Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
Hello!
I believe I've reached my wits end with Pinnacle Products and I'd like
to take the plunge with Adobe Premiere.
I've had time to use the demo version and I am comfortable with the
interface how. My questions:
Are there additional effects and transitions I can load into it?
What do I use for DVD Authoring? Would Encore Work?
Does Encore let you make a DVD longer than 2 hours as Pinnacle would at
slightly less quality?
Thanks,
Brian
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Jona Vark
Guest
|
| Posted:
Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:09 pm Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
"woodsonlateral" <brianwolters@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131380948.719554.272560@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Hello!
I believe I've reached my wits end with Pinnacle Products and I'd like
to take the plunge with Adobe Premiere.
|
Good idea.
| Quote: |
I've had time to use the demo version and I am comfortable with the
interface how. My questions:
Are there additional effects and transitions I can load into it?
|
Yes.. I believe PPro will use After Effects plugins now.
| Quote: | What do I use for DVD Authoring?
|
You can burn DVDs right from the timeline for quick output. I believe you
can also set chapter points with markers. I usually just burn from the
timeline.
| Quote: | Would Encore Work?
|
Yes.
| Quote: | Does Encore let you make a DVD longer than 2 hours as Pinnacle would at
slightly less quality?
|
Not sure. Don't use it
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Tim Witort
Guest
|
| Posted:
Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:27 pm Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
woodsonlateral seemed to utter in news:1131380948.719554.272560
@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
| Quote: | Hello!
I believe I've reached my wits end with Pinnacle Products and I'd like
to take the plunge with Adobe Premiere.
I've had time to use the demo version and I am comfortable with the
interface how. My questions:
Are there additional effects and transitions I can load into it?
|
Tons and tons of them. Plug-ins. Some free, but most you
must buy. The nice thing is that almost any effect you need
has been developed already as a Premiere plug-in by someone.
| Quote: | What do I use for DVD Authoring? Would Encore Work?
|
It works beautifully. It is a very powerful DVD authoring
package. It has a learning curve though. If you need both
editing and DVD authoring, you may want to look at getting
an Adobe bundle that has Premiere, Audition, and Encore.
You'll save a lot of money. Getting it bundled with a
firewire card can save you a ton of money. I got my
most recent Adobe bundle with a Pyro firewire card. I
probably saved over $1000 on the software.
| Quote: | Does Encore let you make a DVD longer than 2 hours as Pinnacle would at
slightly less quality?
|
It all depends on the source video, I suppose. If you transcode
it at low quality, more will fit on the DVD. And there's
always dual layer if you absolutely need longer DVDs.
-- TRW
_______________________________________
t r w 7
at
i x dot n e t c o m dot c o m
_______________________________________ |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
woodsonlateral
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:16 am Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
thanks for the extremely helpful post. I honestly love the features in
my Pinnacle Studio nine but I am tired of it being so slugglish when
adding transitions and sometimes "dying" while rendering.
I am going to try the demo versions of the Adobe Products and if they
work, will eventually purchase them.
Thanks,
Brian |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
PTRAVEL
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:56 am Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
"woodsonlateral" <brianwolters@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131380948.719554.272560@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Hello!
I believe I've reached my wits end with Pinnacle Products and I'd like
to take the plunge with Adobe Premiere.
I've had time to use the demo version and I am comfortable with the
interface how. My questions:
Are there additional effects and transitions I can load into it?
|
Yes. There are many third-party packages available for Premiere Pro -- in
fact, there are probably more third party packages for Premiere than for any
other editor.
| Quote: | What do I use for DVD Authoring?
|
Pretty much anything you want. Premiere Pro offers a fairly flexible work
flow. You can transcode to mpeg from within the program, or you can export
to AVI and use an external transcoder (that's what I do -- I use tmpgenc).
Once transcoded, you can use any authoring package. I use Encore.
| Quote: | Would Encore Work?
|
Encore can even take AVI and transcode internally.
| Quote: | Does Encore let you make a DVD longer than 2 hours as Pinnacle would at
slightly less quality?
|
Comparing Encore to Pinnacle is a bit like comparing an automobile to a
bicycle. Length of video is determined solely by your mpeg settings.
Encore can transcode internally, and allows reasonable control over
bit-rate, VBR vs. CBR, etc. I prefer transcoding using tmpgenc, which
allows tweaking and controlling a huge range of mpeg settings. You can also
transcode directly within Premiere Pro -- it, too, allows control over such
critical time-determining factors as bit rate and VBR vs. CBR. However you
decide to do it, you can fit more than 2 hours of video on a single-layer
DVD.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
PTRAVEL
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:58 am Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
"woodsonlateral" <brianwolters@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131387370.592744.7070@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | thanks for the extremely helpful post. I honestly love the features in
my Pinnacle Studio nine but I am tired of it being so slugglish when
adding transitions and sometimes "dying" while rendering.
I am going to try the demo versions of the Adobe Products and if they
work, will eventually purchase them.
|
I moved from Pinnacle Studio 7 to Premiere a few years ago and never looked
back. Premiere Pro has a learning curve associated with it, but once you
understand what's going on when you edit video, it's easy to use. Premiere
Pro will offer you enormous power and flexibility -- you won't be sorry you
switched.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
woodsonlateral
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:37 am Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
Hmmm...thanks again for all of the great and helpful tips. I am about
to take on a project that will be right at if not a little more than 2
hours long. So, that said, as a newbie not knowing much about Premiere
yet, what should my settings be to capture and to be able to have the
DVD a little longer than 2 hours?
All of the video were recorded on digital camcorders (Digital 8 and
Mini-DV) and I will capture with fireware.
Thanks again! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
PTRAVEL
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:47 am Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
"woodsonlateral" <brianwolters@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131392253.570873.59210@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Hmmm...thanks again for all of the great and helpful tips. I am about
to take on a project that will be right at if not a little more than 2
hours long. So, that said, as a newbie not knowing much about Premiere
yet, what should my settings be to capture and to be able to have the
DVD a little longer than 2 hours?
|
What is your source video? In any event, the easiest to work with in
Premiere is DV-codec-encoded AVI, so capture to that. Are you going to
transcode from within Premiere? Burn from within Premiere? If you use a
program like tmpgenc for transcoding, it will calculate the final file size
and adjust bit-rate accordingly. For a 2-hour video, you'll want to use VBR
(variable bit rate) transcoding.
| Quote: |
All of the video were recorded on digital camcorders (Digital 8 and
Mini-DV) and I will capture with fireware.
|
Ah, I should have read your whole post before I started replying. Digital8
and miniDV are both DV-25 and should be caputred as DV-codec-encoded AVI.
"Capture," in this context, is a bit of a misnomer, as all you do when you
capture DV-25 is a bit-for-bit transfer of the data on the video tape.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
woodsonlateral
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:42 am Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
My source will be from A Sony Digital 8 (Hi-8 tape) and a JCV Mini-DV
camera via firewire. I want to capture with Premiere but make DVD menus
and burn with another program (Encore perhaps.) Hope this gives you
more information. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
PTRAVEL
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:52 am Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
"woodsonlateral" <brianwolters@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131396124.205690.19650@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | My source will be from A Sony Digital 8 (Hi-8 tape) and a JCV Mini-DV
camera via firewire. I want to capture with Premiere but make DVD menus
and burn with another program (Encore perhaps.) Hope this gives you
more information.
|
Encore can do menus, but I like to import Encore's menus into Photoshop and
manipulate them there (it's very easy to import back and forth between the
two programs).
Premiere will, of course, capture DV-25 sources, but I've found that
Scenealyzer Live does a better job at auto-logging and scene detection. You
might want to take a look at it at www.scenealyzer.com.
The MainConcept transcoder that comes with Premiere (and also is used in
Encore) does a pretty good job, but if you really want to maximize quality,
take a look at tmpgenc. It's relatively inexpensive (about $40 if I
remember correctly), and does a fantastic job. The only downside is that it
is rather slow. I think it's a fair compromise, however, to ensure the
highest quality DVDs.
> |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
woodsonlateral
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:03 am Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
OK..I think I am going to try Premiere's "capturing" first since I am
trying out the demo. I'll let you know how it turns out. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
PTRAVEL
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:08 am Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
"woodsonlateral" <brianwolters@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1131397380.078210.88950@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | OK..I think I am going to try Premiere's "capturing" first since I am
trying out the demo. I'll let you know how it turns out.
|
It should work fine. Just don't do anything in the background while you're
capturing. Scenealyzer is robust enough so that you can do other things at
the same time.
> |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
woodsonlateral
Guest
|
| Posted:
Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
Yeah..I found that out last night..tried to do something else during
capturing and it simply stopped the capture.
Tonight - Editing! :) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
woodsonlateral
Guest
|
| Posted:
Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:07 pm Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
Well, I captured video from 6 tapes. All went well. Went into editing
and while not as intimidating as I expected, look a while to get used
to it. Once I found out how handy sequences were, I had this collection
of video edited in an hour. This weekend, I'll try adding some titles
and then make into a file and try Encore for my menus.
Thanks to everyone for their help. I may finally be "delivered" from
Pinnacle Studio. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
woodsonlateral
Guest
|
| Posted:
Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:10 am Post subject:
Re: Moving Up To Premiere - Questions |
|
|
Well, I am having an issue with Encore. It doesn't seem to allow me to
have precision control over the chapter inserts when I do one near a
title (I.E. Act I, Act 2, etc). When from the menu, I choose, say ACT
II, it will show a frozen shot of the scene before it begins instead of
the title I added in Premiere. I did the best I could to insert it at
the point the title showed but when I rendered the DVD and choose a
chapter, I get a frozen, flicker shot before the chapter begins instead
of the title.
The preview window in Encore seems hard to use to get to sync up with
the timeline.
I hope this makes sense. Suggestions? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
|
FAQ
Memberlist
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in