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Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:07 am Post subject:
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Having just finished my acquisition of two more TV series (Gilligans
Island & Twilight Zone) and seeing the end of the MASH TV series now
coming into sight (with season #9 just about to come out) I am now
looking to start the acquisition process on two or three more TV series
(I do them 4 or 5 at a time depending on series size, which saves me
from losing focus on going after too many TV series to quickly)?
Which brings me to the topic at hand namely the Avengers and New
Avengers TV series (which are put out by A&E), and which from first
look to last look seems to me to be simply an overpriced MESS!
While the two seasons of the "New Avengers" look to me to be straight
up season #1 & #2 box sets (with the only objection being on my part a
high sticker price) The Blackman/Rigg/Thorson/McGee Years look to me to
be not only overpriced (by at least 40%), but as well a mess in the way
they were put out (from the first 1963 Set #1 Volume 1&2 to the last
1968 Set #5 Volume 9&10)!
So with that said can anyone out there who has them (or is in the act
of getting them) please tell me if it is as bad as it looks to me on
the outside looking in?
I mean at this point in time I am looking at maybe picking up the New
Avengers series first, and then maybe picking up the Emma Peel Mega Set
as a core to build on, and then picking up the rest of the series a set
or a volume at a time as they come onsale on Ebay in the coming months
and or years (or if I pick them up from another source) on the cheap?
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Derek Janssen
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:13 am Post subject:
Re: Looking for info on "AVENGERS" TV Series |
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tabernacle2002@hotmail.com wrote:
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I mean at this point in time I am looking at maybe picking up the New
Avengers series first, and then maybe picking up the Emma Peel Mega Set
as a core to build on, and then picking up the rest of the series a set
or a volume at a time as they come onsale on Ebay in the coming months
and or years (or if I pick them up from another source) on the cheap?
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You can save a pile by skipping the Blackman years--
Back when the BBC still had to do live B/W television, and we get
"Avengers: the Soap Opera".
Can't go wrong with the Emma Peel years (once they went to film), jump
in anywhere--
Although the core of the good episodes are all found in the blue '67 set.
Derek Janssen (and do we really *need* New Avengers??)
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Paul LEFEBVRE
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:06 pm Post subject:
Re: Looking for info on "AVENGERS" TV Series |
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tabernacle2002@hotmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | Having just finished my acquisition of two more TV series (Gilligans
Island & Twilight Zone) and seeing the end of the MASH TV series now
coming into sight (with season #9 just about to come out) I am now
looking to start the acquisition process on two or three more TV series
(I do them 4 or 5 at a time depending on series size, which saves me
from losing focus on going after too many TV series to quickly)?
Which brings me to the topic at hand namely the Avengers and New
Avengers TV series (which are put out by A&E), and which from first
look to last look seems to me to be simply an overpriced MESS!
While the two seasons of the "New Avengers" look to me to be straight
up season #1 & #2 box sets (with the only objection being on my part a
high sticker price) The Blackman/Rigg/Thorson/McGee Years look to me to
be not only overpriced (by at least 40%), but as well a mess in the way
they were put out (from the first 1963 Set #1 Volume 1&2 to the last
1968 Set #5 Volume 9&10)!
So with that said can anyone out there who has them (or is in the act
of getting them) please tell me if it is as bad as it looks to me on
the outside looking in?
I mean at this point in time I am looking at maybe picking up the New
Avengers series first, and then maybe picking up the Emma Peel Mega Set
as a core to build on, and then picking up the rest of the series a set
or a volume at a time as they come onsale on Ebay in the coming months
and or years (or if I pick them up from another source) on the cheap?
I am a big fan of The Avengers and watch them all the time when |
they're on tv. Bravo (in Canada) aired the whole series some years
back. I bought 5 dvd's on eBay, three from the 1966 series and two
from the 1967 series, and they were only 5$ each i think. maybe you
should scout around eBay instead of getting the A&E sets if you think
they're overpriced.
As a fan, i can tell you that "The New Avengers" series is more like
the way the Avengers used to be before they started to make the series
a tongue-in-cheek spy drama. The very early years with Honor Blackman
were the best IMHO. True, dyed-in-the-wool espionage drama. And
live. Then along came Mrs. Peel, and for the first ten or so
episodes, they played it straight, but after that it was no longer a
drama per se, but more of them having fun while solving mysteries.
Still very entertaining, but nothing like the originals. My advice to
you is to begin with the original black&white live series and the
early black&white Mrs. Peel series, 1966 volumes 1-2-3 to get a feel
of what the show was really like before it went downhill somewhat.
A bit of trivia, maybe you already know, the origin of Mrs. Peel's
name: the producers wanted to add some zing to the series after Honor
Blackman left, they wanted to attract male viewers, they needed
man-appeal. When they auditioned people, the notation they used was
M-appeal. And that became the name of the new character, Emma Peel.
And if you really like this spy stuff from old black&white British TV,
make sure you get the "Secret Agent" series with Patrick McGoohan.
It's really and truly a great honest-to-goodness espionage series.
There are 47 episodes in the series.
PL
Paul LEFEBVRE
londonpaul@*removethis*sympatico.ca
My book is now available on Amazon.com. Visit my website for the link.
http://www.geocities.com/joeyp99 |
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Derek Janssen
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:06 am Post subject:
Re: Looking for info on "AVENGERS" TV Series |
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Paul LEFEBVRE wrote:
| Quote: | And if you really like this spy stuff from old black&white British TV,
make sure you get the "Secret Agent" series with Patrick McGoohan.
It's really and truly a great honest-to-goodness espionage series.
There are 47 episodes in the series.
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Especially if you're aware that McGoohan's John Drake was unofficially
considered to be the "real" No.6 from "The Prisoner" (McG just refused
to admit it because he was disgruntled with the later "Danger"/"Secret"
series and didn't want the typecasting), and the same modus-operandi
methods still show--
Taken as a Prisoner "prequel", it may be too 60's-spy escapist, but it's
got the stuff. :)
Derek Janssen (and if you're not up on A&E's "Prisoner"...oh, man)
djanss@charter.net |
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John Howells
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:19 am Post subject:
Re: Looking for info on "AVENGERS" TV Series |
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"Paul LEFEBVRE" <londonpaul@*removethis*sympatico.ca> wrote
| Quote: | And if you really like this spy stuff from old black&white British TV,
make sure you get the "Secret Agent" series with Patrick McGoohan.
It's really and truly a great honest-to-goodness espionage series.
There are 47 episodes in the series.
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Only if you ignore the first 39 half hour episodes in the "Danger Man"
series, the UK title for all 86 episodes of the complete oeuvre.
John Howells |
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: Looking for info on "AVENGERS" TV Series |
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Paul LEFEBVRE wrote:
| Quote: | tabernacle2002@hotmail.com wrote:
Having just finished my acquisition of two more TV series (Gilligans
Island & Twilight Zone) and seeing the end of the MASH TV series now
coming into sight (with season #9 just about to come out) I am now
looking to start the acquisition process on two or three more TV series
(I do them 4 or 5 at a time depending on series size, which saves me
from losing focus on going after too many TV series to quickly)?
Which brings me to the topic at hand namely the Avengers and New
Avengers TV series (which are put out by A&E), and which from first
look to last look seems to me to be simply an overpriced MESS!
While the two seasons of the "New Avengers" look to me to be straight
up season #1 & #2 box sets (with the only objection being on my part a
high sticker price) The Blackman/Rigg/Thorson/McGee Years look to me to
be not only overpriced (by at least 40%), but as well a mess in the way
they were put out (from the first 1963 Set #1 Volume 1&2 to the last
1968 Set #5 Volume 9&10)!
So with that said can anyone out there who has them (or is in the act
of getting them) please tell me if it is as bad as it looks to me on
the outside looking in?
I mean at this point in time I am looking at maybe picking up the New
Avengers series first, and then maybe picking up the Emma Peel Mega Set
as a core to build on, and then picking up the rest of the series a set
or a volume at a time as they come onsale on Ebay in the coming months
and or years (or if I pick them up from another source) on the cheap?
I am a big fan of The Avengers and watch them all the time when
they're on tv. Bravo (in Canada) aired the whole series some years
back. I bought 5 dvd's on eBay, three from the 1966 series and two
from the 1967 series, and they were only 5$ each i think. maybe you
should scout around eBay instead of getting the A&E sets if you think
they're overpriced.
As a fan, i can tell you that "The New Avengers" series is more like
the way the Avengers used to be before they started to make the series
a tongue-in-cheek spy drama.
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The show was good but my main interest in the New Avengers had and
still has to do more with the fact that I am a big Joanna
Lumley(Purdey) fan than the show itself!
And in fact I feel that she would most likely have made a better Tara
King than Linda Thorson did and might have kept TOS going a season or
two longer?
The very early years with Honor Blackman
| Quote: | were the best IMHO. True, dyed-in-the-wool espionage drama.
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God I loved her in Goldfinger,which when combined with the main villan
and Odd Job made it IMHO the best Bond movie ever made!
And
| Quote: | live. Then along came Mrs. Peel, and for the first ten or so
episodes, they played it straight, but after that it was no longer a
drama per se, but more of them having fun while solving mysteries.
Still very entertaining, but nothing like the originals. My advice to
you is to begin with the original black&white live series and the
early black&white Mrs. Peel series, 1966 volumes 1-2-3 to get a feel
of what the show was really like before it went downhill somewhat.
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Funny but I prefer the B&W episodes that Rigg was in over the color
ones...Maybe it had more to do with the fact that the best of the best
episodes like "A Touch Of Brimstone""The House That Jack Built" "Honey
For The Prince""The Cybernauts" and half a dozen others were shot in
B&W and maybe they would have been even better in color?
| Quote: | A bit of trivia, maybe you already know, the origin of Mrs. Peel's
name: the producers wanted to add some zing to the series after Honor
Blackman left, they wanted to attract male viewers, they needed
man-appeal. When they auditioned people, the notation they used was
M-appeal. And that became the name of the new character, Emma Peel.
And if you really like this spy stuff from old black&white British TV,
make sure you get the "Secret Agent" series with Patrick McGoohan.
It's really and truly a great honest-to-goodness espionage series.
There are 47 episodes in the series.
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Man thats an Oldie! Been years since I saw it although I hear the song
every once in awhile on the radio.
| Quote: | PL
Paul LEFEBVRE
londonpaul@*removethis*sympatico.ca
My book is now available on Amazon.com. Visit my website for the link.
http://www.geocities.com/joeyp99 |
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: Looking for info on "AVENGERS" TV Series |
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Derek Janssen wrote:
| Quote: | Paul LEFEBVRE wrote:
And if you really like this spy stuff from old black&white British TV,
make sure you get the "Secret Agent" series with Patrick McGoohan.
It's really and truly a great honest-to-goodness espionage series.
There are 47 episodes in the series.
Especially if you're aware that McGoohan's John Drake was unofficially
considered to be the "real" No.6 from "The Prisoner" (McG just refused
to admit it because he was disgruntled with the later "Danger"/"Secret"
series and didn't want the typecasting), and the same modus-operandi
methods still show--
Taken as a Prisoner "prequel", it may be too 60's-spy escapist, but it's
got the stuff. :)
Loved the opening theme songs for both of them series! |
You know I wonder if that is why we never got to know No.6's real name
and if he was really guilty or not? And why it ran for only a season as
maybe it was kinda like what McGoohan meant to do from the start in
order for it to be a final ending to the Danger Man TV series like so
he could finally move on to other roles?
BTW I would really love to see them make an updated version of The
Prisoner (with Gary Oldman as 6) with say a Matrix like or a Brazil
like feel to it?
| Quote: | Derek Janssen (and if you're not up on A&E's "Prisoner"...oh, man)
djanss@charter.net |
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Andrew Venor
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: Looking for info on "AVENGERS" TV Series |
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tabernacle2002@hotmail.com wrote:
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Derek Janssen wrote:
Paul LEFEBVRE wrote:
And if you really like this spy stuff from old black&white British TV,
make sure you get the "Secret Agent" series with Patrick McGoohan.
It's really and truly a great honest-to-goodness espionage series.
There are 47 episodes in the series.
Especially if you're aware that McGoohan's John Drake was unofficially
considered to be the "real" No.6 from "The Prisoner" (McG just refused
to admit it because he was disgruntled with the later "Danger"/"Secret"
series and didn't want the typecasting), and the same modus-operandi
methods still show--
Taken as a Prisoner "prequel", it may be too 60's-spy escapist, but it's
got the stuff. :)
Loved the opening theme songs for both of them series!
You know I wonder if that is why we never got to know No.6's real name
and if he was really guilty or not? And why it ran for only a season as
maybe it was kinda like what McGoohan meant to do from the start in
order for it to be a final ending to the Danger Man TV series like so
he could finally move on to other roles?
BTW I would really love to see them make an updated version of The
Prisoner (with Gary Oldman as 6) with say a Matrix like or a Brazil
like feel to it?
Derek Janssen (and if you're not up on A&E's "Prisoner"...oh, man)
djanss@charter.net
In the body swapping episode Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling didn't |
Number 6 check is signature by signing his name as John Drake?
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Paul LEFEBVRE
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject:
Re: Looking for info on "AVENGERS" TV Series |
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"John Howells" <john@howells-99.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
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"Paul LEFEBVRE" <londonpaul@*removethis*sympatico.ca> wrote
And if you really like this spy stuff from old black&white British TV,
make sure you get the "Secret Agent" series with Patrick McGoohan.
It's really and truly a great honest-to-goodness espionage series.
There are 47 episodes in the series.
Only if you ignore the first 39 half hour episodes in the "Danger Man"
series, the UK title for all 86 episodes of the complete oeuvre.
John Howells
Gee, I didn't know that. The only episodes I've seen on Bravo |
(canada) are the hour-long ones. Thanks for clueing me in, I'm going
to hunt around to see if the half-hour shows are available somewhere.
Did you see them? Were they any good?
PL
Paul LEFEBVRE
londonpaul@*removethis*sympatico.ca
My book is now available on Amazon.com and other online booksellers, and at your favorite bookstore.
Visit my website for the link to the Amazon.com listing.
http://www.geocities.com/joeyp99 |
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jayembee
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject:
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Derek Janssen <djanss@nospam.charter.net> wrote:
| Quote: | tabernacle2002@hotmail.com wrote:
I mean at this point in time I am looking at maybe picking up the New
Avengers series first, and then maybe picking up the Emma Peel Mega Set
as a core to build on, and then picking up the rest of the series a set
or a volume at a time as they come onsale on Ebay in the coming months
and or years (or if I pick them up from another source) on the cheap?
You can save a pile by skipping the Blackman years--
Back when the BBC still had to do live B/W television, and we get
"Avengers: the Soap Opera".
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I disagree. There's a crudity to the production, but I like them a *lot* better
than the Linda Thorson episodes.
| Quote: | Derek Janssen (and do we really *need* New Avengers??)
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:47 pm Post subject:
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Andrew Venor wrote:
| Quote: | tabernacle2002@hotmail.com wrote:
Derek Janssen wrote:
Paul LEFEBVRE wrote:
And if you really like this spy stuff from old black&white British TV,
make sure you get the "Secret Agent" series with Patrick McGoohan.
It's really and truly a great honest-to-goodness espionage series.
There are 47 episodes in the series.
Especially if you're aware that McGoohan's John Drake was unofficially
considered to be the "real" No.6 from "The Prisoner" (McG just refused
to admit it because he was disgruntled with the later "Danger"/"Secret"
series and didn't want the typecasting), and the same modus-operandi
methods still show--
Taken as a Prisoner "prequel", it may be too 60's-spy escapist, but it's
got the stuff. :)
Loved the opening theme songs for both of them series!
You know I wonder if that is why we never got to know No.6's real name
and if he was really guilty or not? And why it ran for only a season as
maybe it was kinda like what McGoohan meant to do from the start in
order for it to be a final ending to the Danger Man TV series like so
he could finally move on to other roles?
BTW I would really love to see them make an updated version of The
Prisoner (with Gary Oldman as 6) with say a Matrix like or a Brazil
like feel to it?
Derek Janssen (and if you're not up on A&E's "Prisoner"...oh, man)
djanss@charter.net
In the body swapping episode Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling didn't
Number 6 check is signature by signing his name as John Drake?
ALV
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Wish I had the DVD set so I could check it out(it has been years since
I saw it last).
Nice thing about shows and movies being on DVD is you can freeze frame
clearly, then blowup the image to see all them little things that
flashed by so fast you did not have a chance to see anything
clearly!Especially on a TV broadcast that most likely is using wornout
prints sliced and diced and speeded up in order to jam in more ads! |
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