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Bill Lorentzen
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:31 pm Post subject:
Advice on 15" w/ horn cabs |
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I have owned a pair of Yamaha 15" + horn cabinets since the late '80s, which
I use several times a year for live gigs. They are wood (presumably
plywood), covered in a bumpy gray plastic, with plastic corner protectors.
I'm a studio engineer, and I listened carefully to all the cabinets
available from the usual manufactureres at that time, and picked the Yammys
as the best sounding of the bunch. They sound pretty good. BUT they are
really heavy, and there is no mount to put them on a stand.
I've seen a lot of new self-powered, molded, plastic 15" cabs lately, which
are lighter, self-powered, easily mountable and even come with mic inputs
and other handy features sometimes. I bought a JBL Eon for my son's keyboard
rig, which he also uses ocaisionally on bass guitar, coupled with a
Countryman DI. It sounds good, but I have not had an opportunity to check it
out against my old Yammys.
I also saw a Carvin powered 15" in their catalog, which has an option to set
up as a floor monitor and is pretty cheap.
Anyway, all these plastic cabs look very inviting to me after years of
lugging these extremely heavy wood cabs around. Any opinions as to the best
of the bunch? I'm especially interested in the Carvins, due to their
excellent price.
Thanks. BL
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Rob Beech
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:39 pm Post subject:
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"Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have owned a pair of Yamaha 15" + horn cabinets since the late '80s,
which I use several times a year for live gigs. They are wood (presumably
plywood), covered in a bumpy gray plastic, with plastic corner protectors.
I'm a studio engineer, and I listened carefully to all the cabinets
available from the usual manufactureres at that time, and picked the
Yammys as the best sounding of the bunch. They sound pretty good. BUT they
are really heavy, and there is no mount to put them on a stand.
I've seen a lot of new self-powered, molded, plastic 15" cabs lately,
which are lighter, self-powered, easily mountable and even come with mic
inputs and other handy features sometimes. I bought a JBL Eon for my son's
keyboard rig, which he also uses ocaisionally on bass guitar, coupled with
a Countryman DI. It sounds good, but I have not had an opportunity to
check it out against my old Yammys.
I also saw a Carvin powered 15" in their catalog, which has an option to
set up as a floor monitor and is pretty cheap.
Anyway, all these plastic cabs look very inviting to me after years of
lugging these extremely heavy wood cabs around. Any opinions as to the
best of the bunch? I'm especially interested in the Carvins, due to their
excellent price.
Thanks. BL
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First of all have a good search on this group for this sort of question. it
has been asked (or very similar) recently.
Secondly its very much a case of you get what you pay for. I haven't used
any Carvin gear so you'll have to wait for another reply on that, The newer
yamaha cabs aren't too bad, although this brings onto the next point about
15's. 15's are not normally too great for vocals unless you have something
inbetwen that and the horn. Depending on your application you may want to
look at a 12 inch version. There are many different types available and it
will all depend on your application and budget.
If you could expand on your budget, application, common venue size and
capacity etc etc. Also the model number of your current yamaha's
Rob |
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Kurt Albershardt
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:28 am Post subject:
Re: Advice on 15" w/ horn cabs |
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Bill Lorentzen wrote:
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all these plastic cabs look very inviting to me after years of
lugging these extremely heavy wood cabs around.
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You're not going to like the price - but just for fun you should check
out the new EAW NT series <http://eaw.com/products/NT/>
Made of Baltic birch but they put a huge effort into removing
unnecessary weight in the parts of the cabinet that didn't contribute to
structural rigidity. There's also some new DSP voodoo that largely gets
rid of the midrange honk that so many of us dislike in 15" 2-way designs. |
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Les
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:41 am Post subject:
Re: Advice on 15" w/ horn cabs |
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"Bill Lorentzen" <bill@lorentzen.ws> wrote in message
| Quote: | I also saw a Carvin powered 15" in their catalog, which has an option to
set
up as a floor monitor and is pretty cheap.
Anyway, all these plastic cabs look very inviting to me after years of
lugging these extremely heavy wood cabs around. Any opinions as to the
best
of the bunch? I'm especially interested in the Carvins, due to their
excellent price.
Thanks. BL
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Hey Bill,
While I don't post too often I can tell you that the Carvin PM15A's are ok.
I've used a pair of the powered boxes for a church gig, and a few other
portable apps and they are passible.
They are bright and the midrange needs a little taming. They do have a 3
band EQ with sweepable mid so you have a little adjustment, better than
nothing at least. There is only 1 input so you can't hook a mic directly
into it like some of the cabs. They fit my needs of a low cost, self-powered
box that I could use as small mains or monitors. I don't really care too
much for cabs of this type so my main concern was cost. HTH.
Les |
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Zigakly
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | Anyway, all these plastic cabs look very inviting to me after years of
lugging these extremely heavy wood cabs around. Any opinions as to the
best
of the bunch? I'm especially interested in the Carvins, due to their
excellent price.
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There's something of a contradiction there, if you want less weight to throw
around, why would you want the amp in the speakers?
I also advise against 15"/horn cabs. The high-mids are harsh and too
directional, and the larger cabinets are always more resonant than 12"
models from the same line.
I recommend trying my "open-mic" system: a Behringer PMH1000 powered mixer
and a pair of Peavey PR-12's. Great price, very easy to tote, sounds quite
decent, versatile, and plenty loud. |
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