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mpresley
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:48 am Post subject:
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I am an old time audiophile and, as a result, grew up in the days of
records. For personal reasons I kept my record collection, and enjoy
listening to them in spite of the advances in digital media. I am not
going to come on and state that records sound better than digital...I
would not be so silly. But I like them nevertheless.
Some time ago I came across an old Garrard Z-100 and bought it for a few
dollars. It was in very bad shape, ostensibly. But I spent hours
taking it apart and cleaning it up, polishing the thing with brasso, and
so forth.
The arm bearings were not loose at all, and the idler puck was soft and
pliable. I was fortunate. I don't think the deck had been used in 15
years.
Once I got it cleaned up I found that the motor worked perfectly. The
mechanism is very clunky (it is all mechanical). The speed control is
very primitive; the idler moves up and down a tapered shaft which is
connected to a synchronous motor. But I could detect no audible speed
errors.
It came with a little plastic jig allowing easy alignment of the stylus
in order to achieve tangent. I installed a decent but not high end
cartridge--an A-T 440ML. It may even be better than the run of the mill
intro level phonograph pickup in that it has a line contact nude diamond
affixed to the cantilever.
I set the tracking force at 1.5 grams--the highest advised pressure
since I suspected that the cartridge is rather high compliance, and the
pantograph Garrard arm appears fairly massive. I didn't want the thing
hopping all around the record.
Anyhow, playing some records was a pleasant experience. I put on Miles
Davis "Four and More", a live recording featuring not only Mr. Davis,
but Herbie Hancock, Tony Williams, Ron Carter, and the very talented
George Coleman on tenor saxophone.
Perhaps it is due to the tangent arm, but the sound is very clear and
detailed. I am not going to offer a lot of subjective descriptors.
Suffice to say that it is amazing to me that an item produced in the
early 1970s can still sound highly respectable. So I now have it in my
bedroom system. I wonder how many CD players will be so functional in
30 years? And, aesthetically, it is a very nice unit to look at.
So, this post is simply a "for what it's worth" hobby report. But I was
wondering if anyone else has taken old gear, refurbished it, and then
enjoyed the results?
cheers
michael
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Harry Lavo
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:16 am Post subject:
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"mpresley" <mpresley@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I am an old time audiophile and, as a result, grew up in the days of
records. For personal reasons I kept my record collection, and enjoy
listening to them in spite of the advances in digital media. I am not
going to come on and state that records sound better than digital...I would
not be so silly. But I like them nevertheless.
Some time ago I came across an old Garrard Z-100 and bought it for a few
dollars. It was in very bad shape, ostensibly. But I spent hours taking
it apart and cleaning it up, polishing the thing with brasso, and so
forth.
The arm bearings were not loose at all, and the idler puck was soft and
pliable. I was fortunate. I don't think the deck had been used in 15
years.
Once I got it cleaned up I found that the motor worked perfectly. The
mechanism is very clunky (it is all mechanical). The speed control is
very primitive; the idler moves up and down a tapered shaft which is
connected to a synchronous motor. But I could detect no audible speed
errors.
It came with a little plastic jig allowing easy alignment of the stylus in
order to achieve tangent. I installed a decent but not high end
cartridge--an A-T 440ML. It may even be better than the run of the mill
intro level phonograph pickup in that it has a line contact nude diamond
affixed to the cantilever.
I set the tracking force at 1.5 grams--the highest advised pressure since
I suspected that the cartridge is rather high compliance, and the
pantograph Garrard arm appears fairly massive. I didn't want the thing
hopping all around the record.
Anyhow, playing some records was a pleasant experience. I put on Miles
Davis "Four and More", a live recording featuring not only Mr. Davis, but
Herbie Hancock, Tony Williams, Ron Carter, and the very talented George
Coleman on tenor saxophone.
Perhaps it is due to the tangent arm, but the sound is very clear and
detailed. I am not going to offer a lot of subjective descriptors.
Suffice to say that it is amazing to me that an item produced in the early
1970s can still sound highly respectable. So I now have it in my bedroom
system. I wonder how many CD players will be so functional in 30 years?
And, aesthetically, it is a very nice unit to look at.
So, this post is simply a "for what it's worth" hobby report. But I was
wondering if anyone else has taken old gear, refurbished it, and then
enjoyed the results?
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I actually got rid of my Linn and moved my Accuphase AC-2 cartridge into a
Dual 702 (arguably the best Dual ever made). The Dual comes from the early
'70's. The combo sounds fundamentally as good as the Linn placed on my
Target wall mount. It has the same midrange clarity and slightly deeper yet
still dynamic bass compared to the Linn. Only in the treble did the older
Syrinx PU-2 arm outdo the Dual's arm, but only to a small degree that I can
live with given that I spend much less time with the Dual than I did with
the Linn.
Your experience should be a lesson for all. I suspect that the line contact
stylus itself, and the fact that the AT440 is one of the best sounding MM's
ever made (in my opinion), both work very much in favor of the sound you are
getting. And with a good cartridge and a line contact getting into the
cleaner parts of the groove, records can still be a revelation.
Based on many of the comments I have read on this and other newsgroups, I
think a lot of the dissatisfaction with LP's came either from inferior
equipment (and I consider *any* conical stylus as inferior for stereo LP
use) or from simply not bothering to take fundamental care by brushing or
cleaning records before play / removing them back into their sleeves
immediately after play.
Congratulations on your rehab job, and mazeltov for the enjoyment you are
getting. Thanks for sharing your story. |
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mpresley
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:17 am Post subject:
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mpresley wrote:
| Quote: | Some time ago I came across an old Garrard Z-100 and bought it for a few
dollars.
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An update. I took out my Shure V-15 test record. I was interested in
finding out how the massive pantograph arm and high compliance AT
cartridge would test out.
The arm resonance test showed no significant problems at any of the
levels. This surprised me.
Anti-skating is applied by magnetic repulsion. A slider is calibrated
for both conical and elliptical diamonds. At the time the deck was
produced there were no "line contact" styli made, as far as I know. For
whatever reason, there was no difference in the sounds coming from the
anti-skating track of the Shure test record regardless of the setting.
I don't know if this is because the anti-skating control is not
functioning, or that it is non-critical in my application. So I just
left the dial at 1.5 grams on the elliptical scale.
The deck itself is made of actual metal. There are only a few plastic
parts. Underneath it is a regular Rube Goldberg contraption. Believe
me, you don't want to take it apart unless you have some skill and patience.
The platter is pretty lightweight, and the mat is a very hard, rough
surface material. Interestingly, the platter does not ring when you tap
it. It is not a bell. The little idler actually creates some major
torque. A Discwasher brush does not slow it down.
Stylus force is set by static balance (a brass counterweight) and then
moving a brass weight up and down the arm.
The only part of the machine that seems less than "solid" is the
headshell assembly and the accompanying plug in module. These are
plastic. But there is no appreciable play in the assembly, as far as I
can tell. There is a lever on the front of the headshell assembly that
is supposed to let you "adjust" VTA for multi play mode or single play.
This is a very crude adjustment, at best. The arm itself allows for
no height adjustment.
Nowadays it seems that every high end turntable must be made from
lucite. I think the Z-100 was the first deck to incorporate lucite, but
only in the arm pivot housing. It serves no functional purpose, but
looks pretty cool and high tech.
The changer mechanism works--after a fashion. Records are stacked using
a long bent spindle, and a little outrigger device steadies the records.
I have not used it in this mode, other than to verify that it works.
However the changing mechanism is extremely clunky.
Not that anyone would now ever make such a thing, but I wonder how much
something like this would cost today? I think the design of the arm is
valid. I read somewhere where Sao Win designed and was going to produce
a pantograph arm. Like all Win Lab products, if they ever show up they
are nowhere to be found. But you can bet the farm that they are of
first rate quality. So until I find one of those, I guess the Garrard
will do.
Just what everybody here wanted to read, eh? A review of a 35 year old
record changer!
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mpresley
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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Harry Lavo wrote:
| Quote: | I actually got rid of my Linn and moved my Accuphase AC-2 cartridge into a
Dual 702 (arguably the best Dual ever made). The Dual comes from the early
'70's. The combo sounds fundamentally as good as the Linn placed on my
Target wall mount. It has the same midrange clarity and slightly deeper yet
still dynamic bass compared to the Linn. Only in the treble did the older
Syrinx PU-2 arm outdo the Dual's arm, but only to a small degree that I can
live with given that I spend much less time with the Dual than I did with
the Linn.
Your experience should be a lesson for all. I suspect that the line contact
stylus itself, and the fact that the AT440 is one of the best sounding MM's
ever made (in my opinion), both work very much in favor of the sound you are
getting. And with a good cartridge and a line contact getting into the
cleaner parts of the groove, records can still be a revelation.
Based on many of the comments I have read on this and other newsgroups, I
think a lot of the dissatisfaction with LP's came either from inferior
equipment (and I consider *any* conical stylus as inferior for stereo LP
use) or from simply not bothering to take fundamental care by brushing or
cleaning records before play / removing them back into their sleeves
immediately after play.
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I have a ton or records (literally). I was fortunate growing up in that
I always took care of them. I can readily hear the difference between a
CD and a record with my Sennheisers. Over speakers and in acoustic
space the difference is not so great. Of course there will be the
occasional pop and click. I do not mind. It is part of the hobby.
When I play a record, people who are not familiar with the medium are
always surprised at the quality of the sound. So I am not dogmatic
either way. Musical enjoyment is what is important.
But I will say that, from an aesthetic standpoint, there is nothing like
watching a record on a good looking turntable.
When I was growing up the only people that had top of the line Duals
were possibly a friends old man. Sometimes you could go to his house
and he would put on a record for you. But, as a kid, you were never
allowed to touch it. You could do anything, but you had better not
touch it. It would be better to be caught red handed in the old man's
liquor cabinet than fooling around with his Dual.
michael |
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Harry Lavo
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
Re: analog project |
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"mpresley" <mpresley@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Harry Lavo wrote:
I actually got rid of my Linn and moved my Accuphase AC-2 cartridge into
a Dual 702 (arguably the best Dual ever made). The Dual comes from the
early '70's. The combo sounds fundamentally as good as the Linn placed
on my Target wall mount. It has the same midrange clarity and slightly
deeper yet still dynamic bass compared to the Linn. Only in the treble
did the older Syrinx PU-2 arm outdo the Dual's arm, but only to a small
degree that I can live with given that I spend much less time with the
Dual than I did with the Linn.
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Actually, the Dual is a 701 (typo).
| Quote: | Your experience should be a lesson for all. I suspect that the line
contact stylus itself, and the fact that the AT440 is one of the best
sounding MM's ever made (in my opinion), both work very much in favor of
the sound you are getting. And with a good cartridge and a line contact
getting into the cleaner parts of the groove, records can still be a
revelation.
Based on many of the comments I have read on this and other newsgroups, I
think a lot of the dissatisfaction with LP's came either from inferior
equipment (and I consider *any* conical stylus as inferior for stereo LP
use) or from simply not bothering to take fundamental care by brushing or
cleaning records before play / removing them back into their sleeves
immediately after play.
I have a ton or records (literally). I was fortunate growing up in that I
always took care of them. I can readily hear the difference between a CD
and a record with my Sennheisers. Over speakers and in acoustic space the
difference is not so great. Of course there will be the occasional pop
and click. I do not mind. It is part of the hobby.
When I play a record, people who are not familiar with the medium are
always surprised at the quality of the sound. So I am not dogmatic either
way. Musical enjoyment is what is important.
But I will say that, from an aesthetic standpoint, there is nothing like
watching a record on a good looking turntable.
When I was growing up the only people that had top of the line Duals were
possibly a friends old man. Sometimes you could go to his house and he
would put on a record for you. But, as a kid, you were never allowed to
touch it. You could do anything, but you had better not touch it. It
would be better to be caught red handed in the old man's liquor cabinet
than fooling around with his Dual.
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Welcome to my liquor cabinet. And stay away from my Dual!!
(how else do you keep a stylus/cantilever intact for 25 years?) |
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Iain M Churches
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
Re: analog project |
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"mpresley" <mpresley@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I am an old time audiophile and, as a result, grew up in the days of
records. For personal reasons I kept my record collection, and enjoy
listening to them in spite of the advances in digital media. I am not
going to come on and state that records sound better than digital...I would
not be so silly. But I like them nevertheless.
Some time ago I came across an old Garrard Z-100 and bought it for a few
dollars. It was in very bad shape, ostensibly. But I spent hours taking
it apart and cleaning it up, polishing the thing with brasso, and so
forth.
The arm bearings were not loose at all, and the idler puck was soft and
pliable. I was fortunate. I don't think the deck had been used in 15
years.
Once I got it cleaned up I found that the motor worked perfectly. The
mechanism is very clunky (it is all mechanical). The speed control is
very primitive; the idler moves up and down a tapered shaft which is
connected to a synchronous motor. But I could detect no audible speed
errors.
It came with a little plastic jig allowing easy alignment of the stylus in
order to achieve tangent. I installed a decent but not high end
cartridge--an A-T 440ML. It may even be better than the run of the mill
intro level phonograph pickup in that it has a line contact nude diamond
affixed to the cantilever.
I set the tracking force at 1.5 grams--the highest advised pressure since
I suspected that the cartridge is rather high compliance, and the
pantograph Garrard arm appears fairly massive. I didn't want the thing
hopping all around the record.
Anyhow, playing some records was a pleasant experience. I put on Miles
Davis "Four and More", a live recording featuring not only Mr. Davis, but
Herbie Hancock, Tony Williams, Ron Carter, and the very talented George
Coleman on tenor saxophone.
Perhaps it is due to the tangent arm, but the sound is very clear and
detailed. I am not going to offer a lot of subjective descriptors.
Suffice to say that it is amazing to me that an item produced in the early
1970s can still sound highly respectable. So I now have it in my bedroom
system. I wonder how many CD players will be so functional in 30 years?
And, aesthetically, it is a very nice unit to look at.
So, this post is simply a "for what it's worth" hobby report. But I was
wondering if anyone else has taken old gear, refurbished it, and then
enjoyed the results?
cheers
michael
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An interesting and worthwhile project, Michael.
Enjoy:-)
Like you, I enjoy refurbishing. I currently have an ex BBC
Leevers Rich analogue tape recorder in the finishing stages.
You can see it at
http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Projects/projects1.html
Regards
Iain |
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Gene Poon
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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mpresley wrote:
| Quote: | I am not
going to come on and state that records sound better than digital...I
would not be so silly. But I like them nevertheless.
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Why would that be so silly? Not all digital is
high quality. How about low-rate mp3? That's
digital, and I'd expect your Zero 100 would sound
better!
-GP |
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Gene Poon
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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mpresley wrote:
| Quote: | I have a ton or records (literally). I was fortunate growing up in
that I always took care of them. I can readily hear the difference
between a CD and a record with my Sennheisers. Over speakers and in
acoustic space the difference is not so great. Of course there will
be the occasional pop and click. I do not mind. It is part of the
hobby.
When I play a record, people who are not familiar with the medium are
always surprised at the quality of the sound. So I am not dogmatic
either way. Musical enjoyment is what is important
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One entire wall of a spare bedroom in my home is nothing but record
shelves, and they are full, with overflow to the floor below. I have
been collecting LP stereo records, mostly of classical music, since the
1960s. It is always gratifying to listen to a memorable performance
which is not available on CD! It is also gratifying to play such a
record for a friend or relative and have them comment that it's a really
good sounding DISC (they mean the small silver variety).
Now, there are many records that I want to listen to again on the
new/old Garrard 301/Rabco/Decca; plus the many that I have only heard
played on belt-drive turntables.
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Gene Poon
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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mpresley, having rehabilitated a Garrard Zero 100 and enjoyed the
results, wrote:
| Quote: | ...I was wondering if anyone else has taken old gear, refurbished it,
and then enjoyed the results?
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I just did, a few weeks ago.
I took a grease-bearing Garrard 301 turntable that I had put away
years ago because it rumbled too much, and instead of trying it again on
the thin hollow plywood box that was its original mounting base, I built
a new, solid plinth, laminating six layers of 3/4" laminated birch
plywood and flakeboard. Very heavy. I overhauled the Garrard,
rehabilitating, cleaning and relubricating everything on it that moves.
I mounted a Rabco SL-8E linear tracking arm behind the Garrard, and use
a Decca Gold cartridge into a custom-fabricated arm wand on the Rabco.
The difference was amazing; the Garrard I had abandoned years ago for a
successon of belt-drive turntables was transformed. It now does not
rumble, even though my system now has much deeper and more powerful bass
response than it did the last time I had used the Garrard in it. And,
the Garrard with its tightly coupled idler drive does not have the
slight speed instability I can hear in every suspended-subchassis
turntable I have ever used in the system, and which always left me
dissatisfied with any of them, from a stock AR to one with extensive
Merrill modifications to a Thorens TD-165, to an updated Linn. The
Garrard/Rabco/Decca is now my primary vinyl playback source. I did have
to make some changes in component placement because the solid-plinth
Garrard isn't as well isolated from substrate vibration as is a Linn or
similar suspended-subchassis table; but the effort has been worth it.
The prior retirement of my Garrard 301 occurred at a time when the
Japanese were buying up Garrard 301 and 401 turntables from owners who
considered them obsolete against the ascendant Linn Sondek. While time
has now marched on and the Linn, though still assuredly High End, can no
longer be considered truly Top End, I now wonder if it ever really was,
given what the Japanese apparently knew about the Garrard 301 and what
some others have now belatedly found out.
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Harry Lavo
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Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:02 pm Post subject:
Re: analog project |
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"Gene Poon" <sheehans@ap.net> wrote in message
news:dkp5s802mpu@news2.newsguy.com...
| Quote: | mpresley, having rehabilitated a Garrard Zero 100 and enjoyed the results,
wrote:
...I was wondering if anyone else has taken old gear, refurbished it,
and then enjoyed the results?
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I just did, a few weeks ago.
I took a grease-bearing Garrard 301 turntable that I had put away
years ago because it rumbled too much, and instead of trying it again on
the thin hollow plywood box that was its original mounting base, I built
a new, solid plinth, laminating six layers of 3/4" laminated birch
plywood and flakeboard. Very heavy. I overhauled the Garrard,
rehabilitating, cleaning and relubricating everything on it that moves. I
mounted a Rabco SL-8E linear tracking arm behind the Garrard, and use a
Decca Gold cartridge into a custom-fabricated arm wand on the Rabco. The
difference was amazing; the Garrard I had abandoned years ago for a
successon of belt-drive turntables was transformed. It now does not
rumble, even though my system now has much deeper and more powerful bass
response than it did the last time I had used the Garrard in it. And, the
Garrard with its tightly coupled idler drive does not have the slight
speed instability I can hear in every suspended-subchassis turntable I
have ever used in the system, and which always left me dissatisfied with
any of them, from a stock AR to one with extensive Merrill modifications
to a Thorens TD-165, to an updated Linn. The Garrard/Rabco/Decca is now
my primary vinyl playback source. I did have to make some changes in
component placement because the solid-plinth Garrard isn't as well
isolated from substrate vibration as is a Linn or similar
suspended-subchassis table; but the effort has been worth it.
The prior retirement of my Garrard 301 occurred at a time when the
Japanese were buying up Garrard 301 and 401 turntables from owners who
considered them obsolete against the ascendant Linn Sondek. While time
has now marched on and the Linn, though still assuredly High End, can no
longer be considered truly Top End, I now wonder if it ever really was,
given what the Japanese apparently knew about the Garrard 301 and what
some others have now belatedly found out.
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Sounds like a really fine system. The Rabco and Decca combination is a good
one, and it sounds like you've hit upon why all those Japanese and lately
Brits have been buying up refurb and remounted 301's and 401's like crazy.
You might want to consider a wall mount for your unit. That takes care of
the isolation problem, particularly if you combined it with some sorbathane
feet to minimize any acoustic feedback (although that is often not a problem
with wall mounts). |
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mpresley
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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Gene Poon wrote:
| Quote: | mpresley wrote:
I am not going to come on and state that records sound better than
digital...I would not be so silly. But I like them nevertheless.
Why would that be so silly? Not all digital is high quality. How about
low-rate mp3? That's digital, and I'd expect your Zero 100 would sound
better!
-GP
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Yes. There is good and bad in both. I was listening to the 1960
Knappertsbusch Parsisfal recorded at Bayreuth last night; it's on
Melodram records. For such a recording (mono with average fidelity) it
will make no difference whether it is on records or CD--or even mp3.
But as a Wagner fan and especially when listening to headphones I prefer
CDs; Wagner is so dynamic often the noise floor of vinyl becomes
intrusive. Plus, one gets the feel of the music better due to the
longer times afforded a CD. But, here, even a CD can be suboptimal.
For instance, Rhinegold is essentially one "act", 3 hours long. So it
would be better to listen to a DVD. The Levine/Met Rhinegold on DG DVD
fills the bill in this respect.
The longer I listen to the Garrard the more I'm convinced that a tanget
or linear arm is the way to go. With my pivioted fixed head turntable
(Technics SL-1100A with Shure V-15x MR and/or Denon 103) I believe that
I can hear distortion due to the pivoted arm. The sound comes across as
a bit muddy in parts and as the arm traverses the record. This is very
subtle. But the pantograph arm presents a very clean, crisp sound over
the entire surface of the disc.
mp |
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Ralph Heidecke
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Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:03 pm Post subject:
Re: analog project |
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"mpresley" <mpresley@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:dklj530kl4@news1.newsguy.com...
| Quote: | I am an old time audiophile and, as a result, grew up in the days of
records. For personal reasons I kept my record collection, and enjoy
listening to them in spite of the advances in digital media. ...
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| Quote: | It came with a little plastic jig allowing easy alignment of the stylus in
order to achieve tangent. I installed a decent but not high end
cartridge--an A-T 440ML.
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I agree with Harry as I just installed this cartridge in my oracle
Delphi/RegaRB300. My Oracle isn't stock as the motor quit and I replaced
with an Origin Live motor kit. The AT440Ml sure is an excellent cartridge.
I enjoyed your post trying to keep older analog equipment sounding good for
a bit of effort and reasoanable expense is a challenge but it's worth it.
For me there is still alot of enjoyment in LPs. I still buy LPs from Thrift
stores and my record playing equipment is an important part of my system as
my CD and SACD player. |
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Gene Poon
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
Re: analog project |
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Harry Lavo wrote about my Garrard 301/Rabco/Decca record playing system:
| Quote: | Sounds like a really fine system. The Rabco and Decca combination is a good
one, and it sounds like you've hit upon why all those Japanese and lately
Brits have been buying up refurb and remounted 301's and 401's like crazy.
You might want to consider a wall mount for your unit. That takes care of
the isolation problem, particularly if you combined it with some sorbathane
feet to minimize any acoustic feedback (although that is often not a problem
with wall mounts).
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I am considering that...but my subwoofers are wall-loaded, and on the
same wall! I may turn them on their sides, coffin-style, and floor-load
them (have to build pedestals to get the desired clearance), then
wall-mount the Garrard.
I would probably not have gone the Garrard 301 route had I not already
owned one; the prices they command these days, well in excess of $1000
for ones in good condition, are positively scary. But then I would
still not believe how great a 48-year old turntable can be! I got mine
from a pile of used equipment at Pacific Stereo, a LONG time ago, for
$30. I put about three times that much into just the materials for the
new plinth.
My reel-to-reel tape deck came from the same pile: an Ampex F-44, all
tubes and once J. Gordon Holt's favorite.
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Harry Lavo
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:43 pm Post subject:
Re: analog project |
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"Gene Poon" <sheehans@ap.net> wrote in message
news:dkudfm02vi7@news1.newsguy.com...
| Quote: | Harry Lavo wrote about my Garrard 301/Rabco/Decca record playing system:
Sounds like a really fine system. The Rabco and Decca combination is a
good one, and it sounds like you've hit upon why all those Japanese and
lately Brits have been buying up refurb and remounted 301's and 401's
like crazy.
You might want to consider a wall mount for your unit. That takes care
of the isolation problem, particularly if you combined it with some
sorbathane feet to minimize any acoustic feedback (although that is often
not a problem with wall mounts).
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I am considering that...but my subwoofers are wall-loaded, and on the same
wall! I may turn them on their sides, coffin-style, and floor-load them
(have to build pedestals to get the desired clearance), then wall-mount
the Garrard.
I would probably not have gone the Garrard 301 route had I not already
owned one; the prices they command these days, well in excess of $1000 for
ones in good condition, are positively scary. But then I would still not
believe how great a 48-year old turntable can be! I got mine from a pile
of used equipment at Pacific Stereo, a LONG time ago, for $30. I put
about three times that much into just the materials for the new plinth.
My reel-to-reel tape deck came from the same pile: an Ampex F-44, all
tubes and once J. Gordon Holt's favorite.
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'Twas a good machine. I still look at them on eBay and fantasize about
buying one....Dad had one at one point. But with a Teac 4010, a 7030, a
Scully 4 channel, Onkyo 4 channel, and Ampex 440B 2 channel sitting in the
basement, I hardly need another tape machine. .. |
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