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Harvey
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject:
Is this my VCR or the All-in-Wonder? |
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I finally got a computer setup with an older all-in-wonder 9000 capture
card. Some years back, when VHS was relatively new, I converted some 8mm
home movies to VHS and gave them to family members. Now it is time to update
them to DVD.
I have a cheap Sylvania VCR for playback. The problem is that the live video
in the computer window jerks and tairs and loses sync. Adjusting the
tracking helps some, but not completely. Parts will be perfect, but not for
long.
However, if I hook the same VCR up to my Sony projection TV, everything
plays fine.
I know that the TV is much less sensitive to video timing errors, so I am
still not sure if I am having a VCR problem, or if the problem is in the VHS
tape itself. Do you think it is worth borrowing a neighbor's VCR?
There used to be black boxes available for cleaning up the video. Are these
still available? Do you think this would help?
Thanks for your comments,
Harvey
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Richard Crowley
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:20 pm Post subject:
Re: Is this my VCR or the All-in-Wonder? |
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"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I finally got a computer setup with an older all-in-wonder 9000 capture
card. Some years back, when VHS was relatively new, I converted some
8mm home movies to VHS and gave them to family members. Now it is time
to update them to DVD.
I have a cheap Sylvania VCR for playback. The problem is that the live
video in the computer window jerks and tairs and loses sync. Adjusting
the tracking helps some, but not completely. Parts will be perfect,
but not for long.
However, if I hook the same VCR up to my Sony projection TV,
everything plays fine.
I know that the TV is much less sensitive to video timing errors, so I
am still not sure if I am having a VCR problem, or if the problem is
in the VHS tape itself. Do you think it is worth borrowing a
neighbor's VCR?
There used to be black boxes available for cleaning up the video. Are
these still available? Do you think this would help?
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Is your "cheap Sylvania VCR" the same one you used
to record the tapes?
Yes, it would be worth trying other VCRs.
Hope the VHS tapes weren't recorded in the "long-playing"
speed.
The consumer "black boxes for cleaning up video" may
work, but a real Timebase-corrector (TBC) is what you
really need.
Do you still have the original 8mm movies?
The lower-end video capture equipment (like the AIW)
are not known for their ability to handle difficult input. |
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David Carlstrom
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Is this my VCR or the All-in-Wonder? |
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I agree with Richard. Forget the VHS intermediate. Capture from the 8-mm
film.
"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xpr7t.net> wrote in message
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"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
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card. Some years back, when VHS was relatively new, I converted some
8mm home movies to VHS and gave them to family members. Now it is time
to update them to DVD.
There used to be black boxes available for cleaning up the video. Are
these still available? Do you think this would help?
Do you still have the original 8mm movies?
The lower-end video capture equipment (like the AIW)
are not known for their ability to handle difficult input.
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JimK
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 2:48 am Post subject:
Re: Is this my VCR or the All-in-Wonder? |
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On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 07:45:56 -0500, "Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I finally got a computer setup with an older all-in-wonder 9000 capture
card. Some years back, when VHS was relatively new, I converted some 8mm
home movies to VHS and gave them to family members. Now it is time to update
them to DVD.
I have a cheap Sylvania VCR for playback. The problem is that the live video
in the computer window jerks and tairs and loses sync. Adjusting the
tracking helps some, but not completely. Parts will be perfect, but not for
long.
However, if I hook the same VCR up to my Sony projection TV, everything
plays fine.
I know that the TV is much less sensitive to video timing errors, so I am
still not sure if I am having a VCR problem, or if the problem is in the VHS
tape itself. Do you think it is worth borrowing a neighbor's VCR?
There used to be black boxes available for cleaning up the video. Are these
still available? Do you think this would help?
Thanks for your comments,
Harvey
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It seems to me that if there was a clean vertical sync pulse coming
from the VCR, that the PC's capture card would stay sync'ed up.
Video stabilizer
http://tinyurl.com/9j7lh |
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David Carlstrom
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:39 am Post subject:
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It is the horizontal and color sync varying in the VCR output that the
crystal controlled computer can't track. Better computer cards can do it.
He might get lucky with a different VCR.
"JimK" <1alpha@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 07:45:56 -0500, "Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote:
card. Some years back, when VHS was relatively new, I converted some 8mm
home movies to VHS and gave them to family members. Now it is time to
update
them to DVD.
I have a cheap Sylvania VCR for playback. The problem is that the live
video
in the computer window jerks and tairs and loses sync. Adjusting the
tracking helps some, but not completely. Parts will be perfect, but not
for
long.
It seems to me that if there was a clean vertical sync pulse coming
from the VCR, that the PC's capture card would stay sync'ed up.
Video stabilizer
http://tinyurl.com/9j7lh |
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Harvey
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: Is this my VCR or the All-in-Wonder? |
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Hmm. Not possible - don't have the film anymore. But, it seems that the
actual capture is much smoother than the preview. Still, some of it appears
that the tracking is bad on the VCR. I tried a different one, but similar
results, though not nessesarily in the same places.
I am suspecting that the tape has stretched a bit. Some places - most
actually - track perfectly. It is just that one of the most precious clips
is hard to get.
Thanks for the thoughts,
Harvey
"David Carlstrom" <djcarlst@provide.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I agree with Richard. Forget the VHS intermediate. Capture from the 8-mm
film.
"Richard Crowley" <rcrowley@xpr7t.net> wrote in message
news:11ms0p343sk417c@corp.supernews.com...
"Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote in message
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card. Some years back, when VHS was relatively new, I converted some
8mm home movies to VHS and gave them to family members. Now it is time
to update them to DVD.
There used to be black boxes available for cleaning up the video. Are
these still available? Do you think this would help?
Do you still have the original 8mm movies?
The lower-end video capture equipment (like the AIW)
are not known for their ability to handle difficult input.
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Harvey
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: Is this my VCR or the All-in-Wonder? |
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Yes, David. I believe you are correct. I will continue to use different VCRs
as friends are willing to loan them to me.
Thanks,
Harvey
"David Carlstrom" <djcarlst@provide.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | It is the horizontal and color sync varying in the VCR output that the
crystal controlled computer can't track. Better computer cards can do it.
He might get lucky with a different VCR.
"JimK" <1alpha@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 07:45:56 -0500, "Harvey" <here@there.com> wrote:
card. Some years back, when VHS was relatively new, I converted some 8mm
home movies to VHS and gave them to family members. Now it is time to
update
them to DVD.
I have a cheap Sylvania VCR for playback. The problem is that the live
video
in the computer window jerks and tairs and loses sync. Adjusting the
tracking helps some, but not completely. Parts will be perfect, but not
for
long.
It seems to me that if there was a clean vertical sync pulse coming
from the VCR, that the PC's capture card would stay sync'ed up.
Video stabilizer
http://tinyurl.com/9j7lh
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