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David McCall
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:49 pm Post subject:
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I have a client that is producing some video that will be displayed
on a large screen in a major trade show booth "theater". The
screen will be ~18' wide.
In the past we have been doing these in SD and delivering a DVD
and this has made them happy, so far. It seems to me that we
should move to HD at this point now that HD is getting so much
less expensive to do.
The video is used by a live presenter, so it is only a few minutes
of video. They typically start with a still that sits on the screen until
the show starts, and then the presenter plays a segment and
pauses on a still and talks for a bit, then hits play again. We leave
the still up for a couple seconds to give him time to pause the DVD.
Perhaps not the best way to run a show, but it's what they wanted.
They will be using a big Barco DLP for display. What can We use
as a playback media that will allow this style of playback, or even
allow for a separate operator to play the segments?
Unless I missed something, HD DVDs are not really happening yet.
We could use a HDV player, but I'm not sure about pausing to hold
the still between segments. Is there a reasonable way to reliably
play the HD material directly from a computer in this kind of setup?
Keep in mind that they have been OK with SD on a DVD, so it
doesn't have to be incredibly good, just somewhat better. Much of
the video will just be graphics and 3D animation, with a little video
mixed in.
We are considering wandering onto a limb, and using the new
Panasonic camera that uses the P2 cards. The footage I've seen
from that camera looked very nice, it is much less compressed
than HDV, and we don't have to rent or buy a deck to get the
footage into the computer for editing. There isn't going to be
much actual video, so there really won't be much editing to do.
It may all get assembled in Aftereffects.
Any thoughts?
David
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Larry Johnson
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject:
Re: HD playback in an exhibit? |
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Create your presentation as it would naturally appear using HDV editing in
the computer, then output th finished production to HDV tape. Repeat the
presentation as many times as the tape will hold to avoid over rewinding the
short area of the tape. Make several duplicates of the repeated presentation
tape for ease of use during the course of the day. Have a miniDV rewinder on
hand to rewind the tapes for next use.
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Digital Video Solutions
webmaster@digitalvideosolutions.com
http://www.digitalvideosolutions.com
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"David McCall" <david.mccall@comcast.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I have a client that is producing some video that will be displayed
on a large screen in a major trade show booth "theater". The
screen will be ~18' wide.
In the past we have been doing these in SD and delivering a DVD
and this has made them happy, so far. It seems to me that we
should move to HD at this point now that HD is getting so much
less expensive to do.
The video is used by a live presenter, so it is only a few minutes
of video. They typically start with a still that sits on the screen until
the show starts, and then the presenter plays a segment and
pauses on a still and talks for a bit, then hits play again. We leave
the still up for a couple seconds to give him time to pause the DVD.
Perhaps not the best way to run a show, but it's what they wanted.
They will be using a big Barco DLP for display. What can We use
as a playback media that will allow this style of playback, or even
allow for a separate operator to play the segments?
Unless I missed something, HD DVDs are not really happening yet.
We could use a HDV player, but I'm not sure about pausing to hold
the still between segments. Is there a reasonable way to reliably
play the HD material directly from a computer in this kind of setup?
Keep in mind that they have been OK with SD on a DVD, so it
doesn't have to be incredibly good, just somewhat better. Much of
the video will just be graphics and 3D animation, with a little video
mixed in.
We are considering wandering onto a limb, and using the new
Panasonic camera that uses the P2 cards. The footage I've seen
from that camera looked very nice, it is much less compressed
than HDV, and we don't have to rent or buy a deck to get the
footage into the computer for editing. There isn't going to be
much actual video, so there really won't be much editing to do.
It may all get assembled in Aftereffects.
Any thoughts?
David
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JimK
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:10 am Post subject:
Re: HD playback in an exhibit? |
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On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:49:57 GMT, "David McCall"
<david.mccall@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I have a client that is producing some video that will be displayed
on a large screen in a major trade show booth "theater". The
screen will be ~18' wide.
In the past we have been doing these in SD and delivering a DVD
and this has made them happy, so far. It seems to me that we
should move to HD at this point now that HD is getting so much
less expensive to do.
The video is used by a live presenter, so it is only a few minutes
of video. They typically start with a still that sits on the screen until
the show starts, and then the presenter plays a segment and
pauses on a still and talks for a bit, then hits play again. We leave
the still up for a couple seconds to give him time to pause the DVD.
Perhaps not the best way to run a show, but it's what they wanted.
They will be using a big Barco DLP for display. What can We use
as a playback media that will allow this style of playback, or even
allow for a separate operator to play the segments?
Unless I missed something, HD DVDs are not really happening yet.
We could use a HDV player, but I'm not sure about pausing to hold
the still between segments. Is there a reasonable way to reliably
play the HD material directly from a computer in this kind of setup?
Keep in mind that they have been OK with SD on a DVD, so it
doesn't have to be incredibly good, just somewhat better. Much of
the video will just be graphics and 3D animation, with a little video
mixed in.
We are considering wandering onto a limb, and using the new
Panasonic camera that uses the P2 cards. The footage I've seen
from that camera looked very nice, it is much less compressed
than HDV, and we don't have to rent or buy a deck to get the
footage into the computer for editing. There isn't going to be
much actual video, so there really won't be much editing to do.
It may all get assembled in Aftereffects.
Any thoughts?
David
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WMVHD and Divx HD works on a standard DVD but you'll need a video
card that is HDTV out and an adaptor with component out (ATI RADEON
9500 64MB AGP DVI VGA VIDEO CARD and DVI To 3 RCA Component Video
Adapter from ATI $50 ebay)
For WMVHD you'll need 2.6GHZ PC for 720p or a 3.0GHZ PC for 1080i |
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Ken Maltby
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Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:18 am Post subject:
Re: HD playback in an exhibit? |
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"JimK" <1alpha@gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:49:57 GMT, "David McCall"
david.mccall@comcast.net> wrote:
I have a client that is producing some video that will be displayed
on a large screen in a major trade show booth "theater". The
screen will be ~18' wide.
In the past we have been doing these in SD and delivering a DVD
and this has made them happy, so far. It seems to me that we
should move to HD at this point now that HD is getting so much
less expensive to do.
The video is used by a live presenter, so it is only a few minutes
of video. They typically start with a still that sits on the screen until
the show starts, and then the presenter plays a segment and
pauses on a still and talks for a bit, then hits play again. We leave
the still up for a couple seconds to give him time to pause the DVD.
Perhaps not the best way to run a show, but it's what they wanted.
They will be using a big Barco DLP for display. What can We use
as a playback media that will allow this style of playback, or even
allow for a separate operator to play the segments?
Unless I missed something, HD DVDs are not really happening yet.
We could use a HDV player, but I'm not sure about pausing to hold
the still between segments. Is there a reasonable way to reliably
play the HD material directly from a computer in this kind of setup?
Keep in mind that they have been OK with SD on a DVD, so it
doesn't have to be incredibly good, just somewhat better. Much of
the video will just be graphics and 3D animation, with a little video
mixed in.
We are considering wandering onto a limb, and using the new
Panasonic camera that uses the P2 cards. The footage I've seen
from that camera looked very nice, it is much less compressed
than HDV, and we don't have to rent or buy a deck to get the
footage into the computer for editing. There isn't going to be
much actual video, so there really won't be much editing to do.
It may all get assembled in Aftereffects.
Any thoughts?
David
WMVHD and Divx HD works on a standard DVD but you'll need a video
card that is HDTV out and an adaptor with component out (ATI RADEON
9500 64MB AGP DVI VGA VIDEO CARD and DVI To 3 RCA Component Video
Adapter from ATI $50 ebay)
For WMVHD you'll need 2.6GHZ PC for 720p or a 3.0GHZ PC for 1080i
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If there is a high powered PC/Laptop available that would
probably be the least expensive approach. But you might
want to checkout what ~$300 can get you with the
www.buffalotech.com "Link Theater" HD wireless Media
Player with progressive scan DVD. It will play WMVHD
and DivX HD, as well as MPEG2 at HD image sizes. It
can play video off a network, a DVD, or most media that
can be connected to a USB2 port (including hard drives).
It can play most formats off a Data DVD, not just normal
DVD Video. It has Component Video and a D4 output
connection, as well as the usual S-Video. Digital & analog
Audio of course. Looks great on my 100" screen, don't
know how it would look at 18' though.
Luck;
Ken |
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David McCall
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: HD playback in an exhibit? |
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"JimK" <1alpha@gmail.com> wrote in message
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WMVHD and Divx HD works on a standard DVD but you'll need a video
card that is HDTV out and an adaptor with component out (ATI RADEON
9500 64MB AGP DVI VGA VIDEO CARD and DVI To 3 RCA Component Video
Adapter from ATI $50 ebay)
For WMVHD you'll need 2.6GHZ PC for 720p or a 3.0GHZ PC for 1080i
Hmm, that's a thought. Would you send the HD out as a second screen, |
or just play full screen? How would you control play/pause of the segments?
Thanks
David |
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David McCall
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: HD playback in an exhibit? |
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"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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If there is a high powered PC/Laptop available that would
probably be the least expensive approach. But you might
want to checkout what ~$300 can get you with the
www.buffalotech.com "Link Theater" HD wireless Media
Player with progressive scan DVD. It will play WMVHD
and DivX HD, as well as MPEG2 at HD image sizes. It
can play video off a network, a DVD, or most media that
can be connected to a USB2 port (including hard drives).
It can play most formats off a Data DVD, not just normal
DVD Video. It has Component Video and a D4 output
connection, as well as the usual S-Video. Digital & analog
Audio of course. Looks great on my 100" screen, don't
know how it would look at 18' though.
Luck;
Ken
That looks really interesting. Do you know anything of this unit |
from personal experience, or just know that it exist? I have
to ask, because quality and reliability are really important.
If it would do the job. that might make this project a lot easier.
David |
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David McCall
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: HD playback in an exhibit? |
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"Larry Johnson" <support@digitalvideosolutions.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Create your presentation as it would naturally appear using HDV editing in
the computer, then output th finished production to HDV tape. Repeat the
presentation as many times as the tape will hold to avoid over rewinding
the short area of the tape. Make several duplicates of the repeated
presentation tape for ease of use during the course of the day. Have a
miniDV rewinder on hand to rewind the tapes for next use.
I agree that you can't have too much redundancy. |
Also, new information: the screen is to be 16 X 28
which is pretty close to 16 x 9. I don't know if we will see
all of it though. The last time we lost 2' off of the top and bottom.
The projectors are to be a pair of stacked Barco R-12s with
a native resolution of 1280 x 1024. It claims HD 720p or 1080i.
David
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Ken Maltby
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Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: HD playback in an exhibit? |
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"David McCall" <david.mccall@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:vMydnd1eD9kLvPDeRVn-og@giganews.com...
If there is a high powered PC/Laptop available that would
probably be the least expensive approach. But you might
want to checkout what ~$300 can get you with the
www.buffalotech.com "Link Theater" HD wireless Media
Player with progressive scan DVD. It will play WMVHD
and DivX HD, as well as MPEG2 at HD image sizes. It
can play video off a network, a DVD, or most media that
can be connected to a USB2 port (including hard drives).
It can play most formats off a Data DVD, not just normal
DVD Video. It has Component Video and a D4 output
connection, as well as the usual S-Video. Digital & analog
Audio of course. Looks great on my 100" screen, don't
know how it would look at 18' though.
Luck;
Ken
That looks really interesting. Do you know anything of this unit
from personal experience, or just know that it exist? I have
to ask, because quality and reliability are really important.
If it would do the job. that might make this project a lot easier.
David
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I've had mine for a while now. I use it with one of their
"TeraStation" NAS on my wired LAN. I have played HD
material such as demo clips that I have downloaded. They
look great with my projector, but as I mentioned it's not
even half the size you describe. So there are no flaws in
the signal sent to my projector that show up on a 100"
display. I have no reason to suspect that there would be
any problems that would show themselves at 18', but I
can't attest to how it would perform at that size.
In terms of the equipment's "Quality", it appears very
well made for a consumer product, but it's not a piece of
industrial equipment. It looks to be of the same level of
construction detail and quality as a similarly priced (~$300)
DVD player.
If reliability were a major concern you might get two.
I have found mine to be trouble free, so far. If I were
you I would be sure to run it through it's paces, before
your exhibit, just in case.
If there are any specific questions or tests you would
like me to try with mine, let me know.
Luck;
Ken |
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