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Ethan Winer
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:50 pm Post subject:
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| Quote: | Things like DSP and EQ and room treatment deserve far more than they get
in any magazines. |
No kidding. Not long ago I approached the editor of a well-known audiophile
magazine and asked about getting a review of my company's bass traps and
acoustic panels. He told me he's "all set" with acoustic treatment, and has
no interest in changing his system to try anything new. I was astounded,
since magazine writers routinely swap out amps and speakers and cables and
everything else. That's their job, fer crying out loud!
--Ethan
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Arny Krueger
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:52 pm Post subject:
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"Ethan Winer" <ethanw at ethanwiner dot com> wrote in
message news:qKWdnTtQWKocFe7eRVn-ug@giganews.com
| Quote: | Things like DSP and EQ and room treatment deserve far
more than they get in any magazines.
No kidding. Not long ago I approached the editor of a
well-known audiophile magazine and asked about getting a
review of my company's bass traps and acoustic panels. He
told me he's "all set" with acoustic treatment, and has
no interest in changing his system to try anything new. I
was astounded, since magazine writers routinely swap out
amps and speakers and cables and everything else. That's
their job, fer crying out loud!
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If you're talking about who I think, I suspect he's having
mini-strokes. Seriously, and sad. |
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject:
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Ethan Winer wrote:
| Quote: | Not long ago I approached the editor of a well-known audiophile
magazine and asked about getting a review of my company's bass traps
and acoustic panels. He told me he's "all set" with acoustic treatment,
and has no interest in changing his system to try anything new. I was
astounded, since magazine writers routinely swap out amps and speakers
and cables and everything else. That's their job, fer crying out loud!
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Hi Ethan, I assume you are referring to the exchange you had with me.
While
I no longer expect those with agenda, such as Arny Krueger, to
correctly
represent what I have said, I do do so with someone like yourself, who
is actively involved in the audio industry. :-(
John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile |
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Arny Krueger
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject:
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<Stereophile_Editor@Compuserve.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I no longer expect those with agenda, such as Arny
Krueger, to correctly represent what I have said,
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What a sad, desperate troll!
| Quote: | I do do so with someone like
yourself, who is actively involved in the audio industry.
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John, show me just one person who is actively involved with
the audio industry who doesn't have an agenda! |
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Ethan Winer
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:00 am Post subject:
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John,
| Quote: | I assume you are referring to the exchange you had with me.
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I would never mention you by name or insult you. My point is that room
acoustics and the importance of treatment always take a back seat to
everything else, even cables and stuff like pucks made of hardwood which I'm
sure you agree are far less important than bass traps and acoustic
treatment. Acoustic treatment gets little respect, even among pro audio
magazines, even though it's arguably more important than anything else
including which speakers you have. Magazine reviewers obsess over a
loudspeaker's imaging, but without treatment at the first reflection points,
there IS no imaging.
I had a similar experience with another editor of another high-profile
magazine when I called last year to ask about a review. He told me their
policy is to not review any acoustic treatment products because how the
product performs depends on the room it's in. Well, sure, okay, but doesn't
that also apply to all the microphones and loudspeakers they review every
month?
In this case the editor also misunderstands current thinking on bass traps
and acoustic treatment in small rooms. Twenty years ago an acoustician would
go into a large control room, measure only the frequency response with a
third octave RTA, and recommend custom bass traps based on what was
measured. Today we know that broadband trapping is far more effective than
tuned, especially in small rooms, and we also know that modal ringing and
modal bandwidth are at least as important as the raw low frequency response.
| Quote: | While I no longer expect those with agenda
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My only agenda is Truth, Justice, and the American way. And spreading the
word about the importance of room treatment. :->) I sell acoustic treatment
because I believe in it, not the other way around!
I'm not Arny, even though I tend to agree with him on most audio matters.
You'll notice I never get into virtual fist fights in these groups, and I
write only about the issue at hand. I never insult anyone here or elsewhere.
--Ethan |
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dizzy
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
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On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:27:13 GMT, <nyob123@peoplepc.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Martin Schöön" <martin.schoon@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.11.04.20.42.39.392331@gmail.com...
I read about The Audio Critic http://www.theaudiocritic.com/
the other day and now I am wondering what you folks think
abut it.
/Martin
It's a love hate thing, you either love it or hate it.
Consider me one who loves it.
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I loved it as well, a decade or so ago when it was sort-of-kind-of a
real magazine. I learned a lot from it. Too bad it didn't pan out. |
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