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John Ridd
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:55 pm    Post subject: Connecting a Turntable Reply with quote

Firstly, apologies for such a basic question but the grey hair has se
in and I'm no techie so your advice is appreciated.

I'm thinking about getting a turntable to get some use out of the viny
that's in the loft. Trouble is, the only socket on my micro hi-fi is fo
headphones. No aux socket or anything. So, is it possible to connect
turntable to this unit or will I have to replace my hi-fi?

Thanks in advance

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John Ridd

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Jim Gregory
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:13 am    Post subject: Re: Connecting a Turntable Reply with quote

"John Ridd" <John.Ridd.1xxu0n@audiobanter.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

Firstly, apologies for such a basic question but the grey hair has set
in and I'm no techie so your advice is appreciated.

I'm thinking about getting a turntable to get some use out of the vinyl
that's in the loft. Trouble is, the only socket on my micro hi-fi is for
headphones. No aux socket or anything. So, is it possible to connect a
turntable to this unit or will I have to replace my hi-fi?

Thanks in advance.


--
John Ridd

Unfortunately such a magnetic pickup cartridge needs to go into a special
phono input with RIAA compensation on a stereo preamp or an integrated amp.
Try firstly to get hold of a 2nd-hand one at a charity shop or a music
dealer.
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GregS
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:21 am    Post subject: Re: Connecting a Turntable Reply with quote

In article <John.Ridd.1xxu0n@audiobanter.com>, John Ridd <John.Ridd.1xxu0n@audiobanter.com> wrote:
Quote:

Firstly, apologies for such a basic question but the grey hair has set
in and I'm no techie so your advice is appreciated.

I'm thinking about getting a turntable to get some use out of the vinyl
that's in the loft. Trouble is, the only socket on my micro hi-fi is for
headphones. No aux socket or anything. So, is it possible to connect a
turntable to this unit or will I have to replace my hi-fi?

Thanks in advance.

Its quite possible to use a phono preamp and an FM modulator.
You can get these very cheap. Look around the Web.

greg
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Kalman Rubinson
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:56 am    Post subject: Re: Connecting a Turntable Reply with quote

On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:55:30 +0000, John Ridd
<John.Ridd.1xxu0n@audiobanter.com> wrote:

Quote:

Firstly, apologies for such a basic question but the grey hair has set
in and I'm no techie so your advice is appreciated.

I'm thinking about getting a turntable to get some use out of the vinyl
that's in the loft. Trouble is, the only socket on my micro hi-fi is for
headphones. No aux socket or anything. So, is it possible to connect a
turntable to this unit or will I have to replace my hi-fi?

Thanks in advance.

I know of no way to connect it since you say it has no inputs. If it
plays cassette tapes, you may be able to adapt something, however.

Kal
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DaveW
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: Connecting a Turntable Reply with quote

You will have to get a new system. You SPECIFICALLY need a receiver or
preamp that has dedicated PHONO-IN sockets on the back. You CANNOT use any
other marked input. The reason for this is that the output from the
cartridge in the turntable has to go thru a special phono amp that corrects
the signal to the RIAA curve for correct frequency response.

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DaveW

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"John Ridd" <John.Ridd.1xxu0n@audiobanter.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

Firstly, apologies for such a basic question but the grey hair has set
in and I'm no techie so your advice is appreciated.

I'm thinking about getting a turntable to get some use out of the vinyl
that's in the loft. Trouble is, the only socket on my micro hi-fi is for
headphones. No aux socket or anything. So, is it possible to connect a
turntable to this unit or will I have to replace my hi-fi?

Thanks in advance.


--
John Ridd
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John Ridd
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Connecting a Turntable Reply with quote

DaveW Wrote:
Quote:
You will have to get a new system. You SPECIFICALLY need a receiver or
preamp that has dedicated PHONO-IN sockets on the back. You CANNO
use any
other marked input. The reason for this is that the output from the
cartridge in the turntable has to go thru a special phono amp tha
corrects
the signal to the RIAA curve for correct frequency response.

--
DaveW

----------------
Thanks for all your replies. The turntable I was looking at does have
built-in pre-amp but, I guess I still need a PHONO-IN socket on the bac
of my hi-fi??

Replacing the hi-fi itself isn't a problem but, looking around ther
don't seem to be many units around these days that have a dedicate
phono socket. I didn't want to go to the expense of having to bu
seperates. I just wanted a small hi-fi with a dab radio, front-loadin
CD and a turntable.

If any of you guys know a system that can be bought on the high-stree
that might suit me I'd be grateful if you could point me in the righ
direction. I certainly don't want to spend a fortune though!

Thanks again

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John Ridd
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Jim Gregory
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Connecting a Turntable (active) Reply with quote

"John Ridd" <John.Ridd.1xyrco@audiobanter.com> wrote in message
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DaveW Wrote:
You will have to get a new system. You SPECIFICALLY need a receiver or
preamp that has dedicated PHONO-IN sockets on the back. You CANNOT
use any
other marked input. The reason for this is that the output from the
cartridge in the turntable has to go thru a special phono amp that
corrects
the signal to the RIAA curve for correct frequency response.

--
DaveW

----------------
Thanks for all your replies. The turntable I was looking at does have a
built-in pre-amp but, I guess I still need a PHONO-IN socket on the back
of my hi-fi??

Replacing the hi-fi itself isn't a problem but, looking around there
don't seem to be many units around these days that have a dedicated
phono socket. I didn't want to go to the expense of having to buy
seperates. I just wanted a small hi-fi with a dab radio, front-loading
CD and a turntable.

If any of you guys know a system that can be bought on the high-street
that might suit me I'd be grateful if you could point me in the right
direction. I certainly don't want to spend a fortune though!

Thanks again.


--
John Ridd

John
You might have mentioned this active detail earlier! If the gram already
corrects the cartridge response and amplifies it, ideally you need to
connect its o/ps to Aux In or Line In of a stereo preamp or system - as I
had stated before.
GregS's suggestion of using a VHF-FM modulator seems right, so get a stereo
one, feed the gram audio into it, and tune in the frequency on your micro
tuner.
Or, with just the right jumper leads, try to use your PC soundcard's Stereo
Line-In jack. Voila!
J
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wkearney99
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: Re: Connecting a Turntable Reply with quote

Quote:
You will have to get a new system. You SPECIFICALLY need a receiver or
preamp that has dedicated PHONO-IN sockets on the back. You CANNOT use
any
other marked input.

Well, as another post mentioned, he could get an FM modulator and a phono
pre-amp. The amp would take care of handling the cartridge-level signal and
the modulator would feed the audio into his existing unit on an unused FM
station. If he's not fixated on fidelity issues this might be a reasonable
solution.

But, as you point out, if he wants a direct input then he will indeed have
to replace the system.

-Bill Kearney
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John Ridd
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Connecting a Turntable Reply with quote

wkearney99 Wrote:
Quote:
You will have to get a new system. You SPECIFICALLY need a receive
or
preamp that has dedicated PHONO-IN sockets on the back. You CANNO
use
any
other marked input.

Well, as another post mentioned, he could get an FM modulator and
phono
pre-amp. The amp would take care of handling the cartridge-leve
signal and
the modulator would feed the audio into his existing unit on an unuse
FM
station. If he's not fixated on fidelity issues this might be
reasonable
solution.

But, as you point out, if he wants a direct input then he will indee
have
to replace the system.

-Bill Kearney


Thanks for all the feedback guys. I've decided to change my system
Going to get a Denon DM35DAB and then (hopefully) connect the turntabl
directly to that unit.

Cheers again.

J

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John Ridd
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Kalman Rubinson
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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Connecting a Turntable Reply with quote

On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:13:18 +0000, John Ridd
<John.Ridd.1y660t@audiobanter.com> wrote:

Quote:
Thanks for all the feedback guys. I've decided to change my system.
Going to get a Denon DM35DAB and then (hopefully) connect the turntable
directly to that unit.

It has inputs but there's no phono input. So, you may still need an
external phono preamp, depending on your cartridge/turntable.

Kal
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John Ridd
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Connecting a Turntable Reply with quote

Kalman Rubinson Wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:13:18 +0000, John Ridd
John.Ridd.1y660t@audiobanter.com wrote:

Thanks for all the feedback guys. I've decided to change my system.
Going to get a Denon DM35DAB and then (hopefully) connect th
turntable
directly to that unit.

It has inputs but there's no phono input. So, you may still need an
external phono preamp, depending on your cartridge/turntable.

Kal

Blimey this is more complicated that I first thought! The fact that I'
going the new hi-fi unit route means I can ask the dealer I guess but
it looks like I can get a better deal online so one last question;

If the turntable has a built-in preamp I should be able to plug i
straight into the input on the Denon right?

J

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Jim Gregory
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Connecting a Turntable (active) Reply with quote

"John Ridd" <John.Ridd.1y80oy@audiobanter.com> wrote in message
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Kalman Rubinson Wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:13:18 +0000, John Ridd
John.Ridd.1y660t@audiobanter.com wrote:

Thanks for all the feedback guys. I've decided to change my system.
Going to get a Denon DM35DAB and then (hopefully) connect the
turntable
directly to that unit.

It has inputs but there's no phono input. So, you may still need an
external phono preamp, depending on your cartridge/turntable.

Kal

Blimey this is more complicated that I first thought! The fact that I'm
going the new hi-fi unit route means I can ask the dealer I guess but,
it looks like I can get a better deal online so one last question;

If the turntable has a built-in preamp I should be able to plug it
straight into the input on the Denon right?

JR


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John Ridd

Right, but before u incur more expense, have u tried its preamp output
straight into your PC soundcard's Line input yet?
Jim
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Kalman Rubinson
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 11:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Connecting a Turntable Reply with quote

On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:12:32 +0000, John Ridd
<John.Ridd.1y80oy@audiobanter.com> wrote:

Quote:

Kalman Rubinson Wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 08:13:18 +0000, John Ridd
John.Ridd.1y660t@audiobanter.com wrote:

Thanks for all the feedback guys. I've decided to change my system.
Going to get a Denon DM35DAB and then (hopefully) connect the
turntable
directly to that unit.

It has inputs but there's no phono input. So, you may still need an
external phono preamp, depending on your cartridge/turntable.

Kal

Blimey this is more complicated that I first thought! The fact that I'm
going the new hi-fi unit route means I can ask the dealer I guess but,
it looks like I can get a better deal online so one last question;

If the turntable has a built-in preamp I should be able to plug it
straight into the input on the Denon right?

A built-in PHONO preamp will assure you. OTOH, you never told us what
cartridge is in your TT or the model of your turntable, I believe.
This information is relevant.

Kal
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