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Rachel and Garry
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Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:00 pm Post subject:
Music for my home video... |
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Hi
Would appreciate any suggestions on this, as I have tried so many things and
they just don't fit... :o(
I have a 12 minute slideshow of photos, mostly of a 1 year old with various
family members (some have passed away now). There is also a New Years party
on there, and about 10 photos from a cruise.
This is a present for my mother in law, it's 150 pictures from 1 year, which
they wanted as a collection. She only knows we are getting the photos
printed so I thought a DVD slideshow would be a cool addition. *If* I can
work out the music successfully!
Thanks in advance,
--
Rachel
~*~
"Life is like a hot bath - the longer it lasts the more wrinkled you get!"
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Richard Crowley
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:18 am Post subject:
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"Rachel and Garry" wrote ...
| Quote: | Would appreciate any suggestions on this, as I have tried so many things
and they just don't fit... :o(
I have a 12 minute slideshow of photos, mostly of a 1 year old with
various family members (some have passed away now). There is also a New
Years party on there, and about 10 photos from a cruise.
This is a present for my mother in law, it's 150 pictures from 1 year,
which they wanted as a collection. She only knows we are getting the
photos printed so I thought a DVD slideshow would be a cool addition. *If*
I can work out the music successfully!
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Not sure what your question is?
Are you asking where to find copyright-free music? What kind?
Are you asking how to create a slide-show DVD with music?
What kind of computer do you have? Operating System?
Do you have any video editing, etc. software already? |
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Seattle Eric
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:41 am Post subject:
Re: Music for my home video... |
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No reason to get copyright for this application: "fair-use" covers it.
Richard Crowley wrote:
| Quote: | "Rachel and Garry" wrote ...
Would appreciate any suggestions on this, as I have tried so many things
and they just don't fit... :o(
I have a 12 minute slideshow of photos, mostly of a 1 year old with
various family members (some have passed away now). There is also a New
Years party on there, and about 10 photos from a cruise.
This is a present for my mother in law, it's 150 pictures from 1 year,
which they wanted as a collection. She only knows we are getting the
photos printed so I thought a DVD slideshow would be a cool addition. *If*
I can work out the music successfully!
Not sure what your question is?
Are you asking where to find copyright-free music? What kind?
Are you asking how to create a slide-show DVD with music?
What kind of computer do you have? Operating System?
Do you have any video editing, etc. software already?
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PTravel
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:19 am Post subject:
Re: Music for my home video... |
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"Seattle Eric" <noone@erehwon.gov> wrote in message
news:4369166b$0$1759$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
| Quote: | No reason to get copyright for this application: "fair-use" covers it.
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Should she cite you as the source of the non-infringement opinion? ;)
I think fair use _should_ cover it, but I'm unaware of any decisional law
that has addressed it. Until it has, it's an open question.
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Richard Crowley wrote:
"Rachel and Garry" wrote ...
Would appreciate any suggestions on this, as I have tried so many things
and they just don't fit... :o(
I have a 12 minute slideshow of photos, mostly of a 1 year old with
various family members (some have passed away now). There is also a New
Years party on there, and about 10 photos from a cruise.
This is a present for my mother in law, it's 150 pictures from 1 year,
which they wanted as a collection. She only knows we are getting the
photos printed so I thought a DVD slideshow would be a cool addition.
*If* I can work out the music successfully!
Not sure what your question is?
Are you asking where to find copyright-free music? What kind?
Are you asking how to create a slide-show DVD with music?
What kind of computer do you have? Operating System?
Do you have any video editing, etc. software already?
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Larry J.
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:28 am Post subject:
Re: Music for my home video... |
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Waiving the right to remain silent, Seattle Eric
<noone@erehwon.gov> said:
| Quote: | No reason to get copyright for this application: "fair-use"
covers it.
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Not true, and you should know this by now...
United States Code
TITLE 17 - COPYRIGHTS
CHAPTER 1 - SUBJECT MATTER AND SCOPE OF COPYRIGHT
Sec. 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair
use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in
copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that
section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting,
teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use),
scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In
determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case
is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include -
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such
use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational
purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation
to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of
the copyrighted work. The fact that a work is unpublished shall not
itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon
consideration of all the above factors.
Additional copyright information may be found at:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/index.html
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Larry Jandro
Video Engineering & Equipment Rentals
Scottsdale, Arizona, USA
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Seattle Eric
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:50 am Post subject:
Re: Music for my home video... |
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PTravel wrote:
| Quote: | "Seattle Eric" <noone@erehwon.gov> wrote in message
news:4369166b$0$1759$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
No reason to get copyright for this application: "fair-use" covers it.
Should she cite you as the source of the non-infringement opinion? ;)
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"I made a gift for my gramma-- a slideshow set to music."
Please. |
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Seattle Eric
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:07 am Post subject:
Re: Music for my home video... |
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Pthpp. You've proved my point. Both 1 and 4 make gramma's tape "fair use".
Larry J. wrote:
| Quote: | Waiving the right to remain silent, Seattle Eric
noone@erehwon.gov> said:
No reason to get copyright for this application: "fair-use"
covers it.
Not true, and you should know this by now...
United States Code
TITLE 17 - COPYRIGHTS
CHAPTER 1 - SUBJECT MATTER AND SCOPE OF COPYRIGHT
Sec. 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair
use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in
copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that
section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting,
teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use),
scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In
determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case
is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include -
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such
use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational
purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation
to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of
the copyrighted work. The fact that a work is unpublished shall not
itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon
consideration of all the above factors.
Additional copyright information may be found at:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/index.html
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Richard Crowley
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:30 am Post subject:
Re: Music for my home video... |
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"Seattle Eric" <noone@erehwon.gov> wrote in message
news:436926a8$0$1760$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
| Quote: | PTravel wrote:
"Seattle Eric" <noone@erehwon.gov> wrote in message
news:4369166b$0$1759$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
No reason to get copyright for this application: "fair-use" covers it.
Should she cite you as the source of the non-infringement opinion? ;)
"I made a gift for my gramma-- a slideshow set to music."
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That explicitly is NOT "fair use" in the USA, but since the OP
is writing from GB, do we know what the laws are there? |
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Larry J.
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:44 am Post subject:
Re: Music for my home video... |
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Waiving the right to remain silent, Seattle Eric
<noone@erehwon.gov> said:
| Quote: | Pthpp. You've proved my point. Both 1 and 4 make gramma's tape
"fair use".
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Not I haven't. You misunderstand the text.
The use must meet the first paragraph (which it doesn't) at which
point 1-4 are considered.
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Larry J. wrote:
Waiving the right to remain silent, Seattle Eric
noone@erehwon.gov> said:
No reason to get copyright for this application: "fair-use"
covers it.
Not true, and you should know this by now...
United States Code
TITLE 17 - COPYRIGHTS
CHAPTER 1 - SUBJECT MATTER AND SCOPE OF COPYRIGHT
Sec. 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the
fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by
reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means
specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism,
comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies
for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an
infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made
of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to
be considered shall include -
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether
such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit
educational purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in
relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or
value of the copyrighted work. The fact that a work is
unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such
finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.
Additional copyright information may be found at:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/index.html
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Larry Jandro
Video Engineering & Equipment Rentals
Scottsdale, Arizona, USA
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PhantomFlyer
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
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Someone should answer the question, rather than carry on a pointless
debate. How many times has someone searched your home made movie
collection looking for copyright infringements? |
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PTravel
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: Music for my home video... |
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"PhantomFlyer" <adam.boffa@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:1130982865.436978.326440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Someone should answer the question, rather than carry on a pointless
debate. How many times has someone searched your home made movie
collection looking for copyright infringements?
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There's only one of us in this thread competent to answer the question, and
I've already provided the answer. As for your question, it's irrelevant to
the topic of discussion.
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PhantomFlyer
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
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Did you answer the original question? Because I don't see where?.
My question...a rhetorical question designed to send the
message..."Your input is not required, because there is no problem."
Your competence failed you there didn't it?
You just need to realize when your creating problems out of nothing.
This is one of them. |
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PTravel
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: Music for my home video... |
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"Seattle Eric" <noone@erehwon.gov> wrote in message
news:43692a9e$0$1764$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
| Quote: | Pthpp. You've proved my point. Both 1 and 4 make gramma's tape "fair
use".
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I'm getting so tired of writing this.
Fair use is an equitable doctrine, meaning the judge decides each case on
its specific facts and in reference to prior cases decided before it. The
four factors are only a guideline and are non-dispositive. Whether a given
use is a fair use can NOT be predicted by simply applying a common-sense
analysis of the four factors.
Okay?
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Larry J. wrote:
Waiving the right to remain silent, Seattle Eric
noone@erehwon.gov> said:
No reason to get copyright for this application: "fair-use"
covers it.
Not true, and you should know this by now...
United States Code
TITLE 17 - COPYRIGHTS
CHAPTER 1 - SUBJECT MATTER AND SCOPE OF COPYRIGHT
Sec. 107. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of
a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or
phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for
purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including
multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an
infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work
in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall
include - (1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether
such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational
purposes;
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work;
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the
copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the
copyrighted work. The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself
bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of
all the above factors. Additional copyright information may be found at:
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/index.html
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Bob Ford
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:08:47 GMT, "Rachel and Garry"
<rmpublic@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | Sorry to be unclear, it's a trait of mine (oops!)
I really just want some suggestions of tracks that might be suitable or
others have used successfully on similar disks. Perhaps it is just too hard
without the images to look at, though.
Regards,
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If you are looking for suggestions as to exactly what music to use I
think only you can determine that. Depends on the subject matter, what
you like etc.
If you are concerned about legalities I wouldn't give it another
thought. If this is something for just your family members to view,
will never be shown in any public locations, especially where any
admission would be charged......forget it, use what you want to use.
Yes, I am a working pro and that is what I would do.
Now if I ever planned to sell a production such as this then I would
obtain the proper and legal rights to the music.
I'm far more concerned about the number of assholes in the world who
buy my stuff, make copies out the wazoo for all their friends and
worse yet the ones who actually sell copies of my stuff. We seem to be
in a world today where people can't seem to grasp the fact that making
copies of a pro video persons work is stealing, plain and simple!!
Bob Ford
Images In Motion
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PTravel
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
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"Seattle Eric" <noone@erehwon.gov> wrote in message
news:436926a8$0$1760$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
| Quote: | PTravel wrote:
"Seattle Eric" <noone@erehwon.gov> wrote in message
news:4369166b$0$1759$8b463f8a@news.nationwide.net...
No reason to get copyright for this application: "fair-use" covers it.
Should she cite you as the source of the non-infringement opinion? ;)
"I made a gift for my gramma-- a slideshow set to music."
Please.
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No, not "please." As I said, I think it _should_ be fair use. I might have
a recommendation if the OP was my client (but she is not). However, no one,
not even me, and I do this kind of law every day, can say, as a fact, "yes,
it's fair use."
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