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Tue Nov 01, 2005 1:07 am Post subject:
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I have a questions about various TV-input methods and which is best. i
am purchasing a new magnavox 27" flat-screen tv this friday, and
because ive been using a 12 year old 27" sony tv, some of the features
on it are new to me. It says it comes with S-Video and Component
hookups. All along for DVD and XBOX i've been using the default
Composite cables that came with the devices ( red, yellow, and white).
This new tv has all three. So my question is, which of the 3 should i
use, and which one is going to give me the best quality picture,
S-Video or Component? This tv is NOT HD ready, but someone said that
using composite can still take advantage or a higher resolution or
non-interlaced or something like that. Can anyone fill me in? thank you
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:42 am Post subject:
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jeffhanson7183@hotmail.com Wrote:
| Quote: | I have a questions about various TV-input methods and which is best. i
am purchasing a new magnavox 27" flat-screen tv this friday, and
because ive been using a 12 year old 27" sony tv, some of the features
on it are new to me. It says it comes with S-Video and Component
hookups. All along for DVD and XBOX i've been using the default
Composite cables that came with the devices ( red, yellow, and white).
This new tv has all three. So my question is, which of the 3 should i
use, and which one is going to give me the best quality picture,
S-Video or Component? This tv is NOT HD ready, but someone said that
using composite can still take advantage or a higher resolution or
non-interlaced or something like that. Can anyone fill me in? thank you
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In order of improving quality - BTW, reasonable quality cables will
also help for some of the better connections - try Jaycar if you live
near one.
You shoudl aim for the highest quality possible between two pieces of
gear - although component / RGB / Digital connections may look not too
different on some equipment. The size of the screen will also influence
this. Component looks MUCH better than composite and s-video.
Composite - wont carry HDTV resolutions
S-video - wont carry HDTV resolutions
Component
RGB
Digital connections (DVI / HDMI)
GO and have a look here ->
http://www.plasma.com/classroom/plasmaconnections1.htm
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Mark
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:50 am Post subject:
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If I were you i'd get an Svideo cable for the xbox, and a component cable
for the DVD player. You should easily notice the improvement with both over
composite.
Cheers
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| Quote: | I have a questions about various TV-input methods and which is best. i
am purchasing a new magnavox 27" flat-screen tv this friday, and
because ive been using a 12 year old 27" sony tv, some of the features
on it are new to me. It says it comes with S-Video and Component
hookups. All along for DVD and XBOX i've been using the default
Composite cables that came with the devices ( red, yellow, and white).
This new tv has all three. So my question is, which of the 3 should i
use, and which one is going to give me the best quality picture,
S-Video or Component? This tv is NOT HD ready, but someone said that
using composite can still take advantage or a higher resolution or
non-interlaced or something like that. Can anyone fill me in? thank you
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gyro
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:11 pm Post subject:
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jeffhanson7183@hotmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | I have a questions about various TV-input methods and which is best. i
am purchasing a new magnavox 27" flat-screen tv this friday, and
because ive been using a 12 year old 27" sony tv, some of the features
on it are new to me. It says it comes with S-Video and Component
hookups. All along for DVD and XBOX i've been using the default
Composite cables that came with the devices ( red, yellow, and white).
This new tv has all three. So my question is, which of the 3 should i
use, and which one is going to give me the best quality picture,
S-Video or Component? This tv is NOT HD ready, but someone said that
using composite can still take advantage or a higher resolution or
non-interlaced or something like that. Can anyone fill me in? thank you
Component connection is nicer than composite or s-video. |
Use component with your dvd player and get one of these for your xbox,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Xbox-High-Definition-YPbPr-Component-Video-Cable-NEW_W0QQitemZ8228068322QQcategoryZ41015QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
And if you run out of component connections grab one of these. They
work great.
http://www.pccasegear.com/prod2381.htm |
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:51 am Post subject:
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thanks for all the replies. I forgot to mention that i actually use the
xbox as my dvd player, i dont have a standalone one. therefore i only
need one connection, unless i decide to get a standalone player in the
future. So the general consensus seems to be go with Component, as it
is in fact better than both composite and S-video. I saw the link for
the Component xbox hookups on ebay, which i appreciate, but is that
anything i can find in electronic gaming stores here in the us, simply
so i could get my hands on it faster. Also i recall a company that
makes these cables for game consoles, i think they are monster cable or
something like that. So if an XBOX game says it supports 720i or 720p
or something like that, that still requires an HDTV correct?
Thanks again for all the help and i will post again once its all setup
to let you know how it looks, im sure even though im still not on the
cutting edge, after staring at the same old screen for 12 years its
gonna feel like a big leap. |
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:00 am Post subject:
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another thing, seeing as though my TV is NOT hd-ready, should i bother
with component? im assuming that the only point is to take advantage of
hd resolutions, so maybe i should just stick with S-video? if it would
still be better than i am more than willing to buy any cables for the
results.... thanks again |
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scalpel
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:51 am Post subject:
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Component will provide a better picture over S-video on normal
resolutions (ie SD resolutions). (S-Video provides a much better
picture than composite).
"What's recorded on a DVD?
DVD stores a component video signal in digital format. Since this
is the native video format that is stored on DVD, this is also the best
format to use to display the picture, if your equipment is capable of
dealing with this type of signal. In Australia, virtually no equipment
exists that is compatible with a component signal, though there is some
that is compatible with an RGB signal. Many DVD players are capable of
converting their native component signal to an RGB signal, but this
varies on a player-by-player basis.
Problems with the Component signal
As discussed above, DVD stores its video information in the
component form, but unfortunately the great majority of us cannot take
advantage of this format. The designers of the DVD format anticipated
this, and made allowances for it in the specification. All DVD players
are capable of downconverting a component video signal into a more
suitable format for display on the current generation of consumer
display devices. The first such downconversion step is to S-Video,
which is a connector that will always be found on any DVD player."
(http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Articles/VideoConnectors/VideoConnectors.asp)
You are confusing two seperate issues:
1) Component can carry higher resolutions
2) Component provides better detail in a picture by preserving colour
seperation.
The cost of a set of component cables is essentially not much more than
the S-video ones. Go the component.
J.
(The other thing that you should think about is the use of a HT Amp -
most decent amplifiers will allow the input of both sound AND video
signals. The video signals (from your many input devices) are fed
through the amplifier and output via a single output - why is this
useful? Because you will only have one video input going to your
screen, and the amp will switch between them, keeping the audio
signal/video signal together from the various devices.)
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
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If your xbox is your gaming machine and your DVD player you'll want the
best output from the unit.
There is a brand that makes Adapters for the xbox the will output
Component, Left and Right audio as well as the optical (Toslink)
connection. This is a proprietry cable that hooks into the back of the
console.
While Cables are important, PLEASE DON'T GO PAYING 50-100 $$$ JUST FOR
A 1M CABLE. I can't stress enough how much of a waste is dollars
interconnect cables can be. Don't get the cheapest ones, but don't go
overboard. Monster tends to be really over priced for the difference
you can see.
Do you have an EB Games near you? They should carry the X-Box adapter.
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:55 pm Post subject:
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On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 09:51:33 +1100, scalpel
<scalpel.1xw5yh@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote:
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Component will provide a better picture over S-video on normal
resolutions (ie SD resolutions). (S-Video provides a much better
picture than composite).
"What's recorded on a DVD?
DVD stores a component video signal in digital format. Since this
is the native video format that is stored on DVD, this is also the best
format to use to display the picture, if your equipment is capable of
dealing with this type of signal. In Australia, virtually no equipment
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| Quote: | exists that is compatible with a component signal, though there is some
that is compatible with an RGB signal. Many DVD players are capable of
converting their native component signal to an RGB signal, but this
varies on a player-by-player basis.
Problems with the Component signal
As discussed above, DVD stores its video information in the
component form, but unfortunately the great majority of us cannot take
advantage of this format. The designers of the DVD format anticipated
this, and made allowances for it in the specification. All DVD players
are capable of downconverting a component video signal into a more
suitable format for display on the current generation of consumer
display devices. The first such downconversion step is to S-Video,
which is a connector that will always be found on any DVD player."
(http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Articles/VideoConnectors/VideoConnectors.asp)
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From Where do you get your information ? Sorry, but you are completely
wrong
Dick Electronics stocks crt tvs that work on component, So does
Tandy, So Also does Woolworths, as does KMart. and elsewhere! These
are analogue tvs. JB H-fi-fi stockwidescreen rptvs from Lg and
Samsungall these This in sizes ranging from 32 cm screensize. to 50
inch. AFAaik, many plasma and lcd vs also run on components, and I
have a panasonic projector that runs on component i am sure there are
others!
Dr Patric
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You are confusing two seperate issues:
1) Component can carry higher resolutions
2) Component provides better detail in a picture by preserving colour
seperation.
The cost of a set of component cables is essentially not much more than
the S-video ones. Go the component.
J.
(The other thing that you should think about is the use of a HT Amp -
most decent amplifiers will allow the input of both sound AND video
signals. The video signals (from your many input devices) are fed
through the amplifier and output via a single output - why is this
useful? Because you will only have one video input going to your
screen, and the amp will switch between them, keeping the audio
signal/video signal together from the various devices.) |
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:41 am Post subject:
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Quote: "From Where do you get your information ? Sorry, but you are
Completely wrong"
Sigh
The reference was supplied with the comment - I note that you even
quoted it back.
JH wanted to know whether it was worth using component given his screen
didn't support HD resolutions.
The point was that component is better than s-Video, and that any
'lesser' connection will result in effective data losss - even for SD
resolutions. The information provided by the website is obviously old,
as they are talking about the days before component connections were
widespread (let alone DVI/HDMI digital ones). (I was actually trying to
find a particular site that had comparitive pictures of
composite/s-vid/component - but can't locate it anymore)
I am quite aware that component inputs/outputs are now ubiquitous -
thats why I am suggesting that he uses it (read the whole thread).
J.
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:43 am Post subject:
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http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/video/index.htm this one?
"scalpel" <scalpel.1xxxdo@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote in message
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| Quote: | (I was actually trying to
find a particular site that had comparitive pictures of
composite/s-vid/component - but can't locate it anymore) |
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:50 pm Post subject:
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Michael Wrote:
| Quote: | http://www.hifi-writer.com/he/video/index.htm this one?
"scalpel" <scalpel.1xxxdo@no-mx.phorums.com.au> wrote in message
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(I was actually trying to
find a particular site that had comparitive pictures of
composite/s-vid/component - but can't locate it anymore)
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Yep - Thats it.
Thanks
J.
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