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Stewy
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:12 pm Post subject:
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In article <7ek8m1dg6pt1hskd1jrh2np3612rvfgtea@4ax.com>,
Gary Edstrom <gedstrom@pacbell.net> wrote:
| Quote: | For those of you who like to have correct time stamps on your pictures,
remember to set the clock in your still and/or video camera to the
correct time.
Other clocks to consider:
Kitchen Stove - Answering Machine - Still Camera - Video Camera
VCR - Car - Cell Phone - PDA - Microwave - Watch - FAX Machine
Central Air Conditioning - GPS
Gary
. Yes, I
now that daylight time is a dumb idea, but what are you going to do?
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Really? You'd prefer sunrise at 4am and sunset at 4pm? Dumb and dumber!
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George
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:42 pm Post subject:
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Bruce Coryell wrote:
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One more fillip: The whole daylight savings time shebang changes in
2007 when the energy savings bill goes into effect. I just leave my
digicams on EST all year long. Windoze makes the time change
automatically, but Linux doesn't, so I have to change my Linux box
manually.
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It should, I have a PVR and a "general purpose" box both running on
Linux and they changed the time without any intervention. |
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Gary Edstrom
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:44 pm Post subject:
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Note: Courtesy copy of this followup sent to author via email.
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 23:12:59 +0900, Stewy <anyone4tennis@hotmail.com>
wrote:
| Quote: | In article <7ek8m1dg6pt1hskd1jrh2np3612rvfgtea@4ax.com>,
Gary Edstrom <gedstrom@pacbell.net> wrote:
Yes, I now that daylight time is a dumb idea, but what are you going to do?
Really? You'd prefer sunrise at 4am and sunset at 4pm? Dumb and dumber!
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The point is that EVERY year I promise myself that I am NOT going to
post this reminder the following year, and EVERY year I ignore my own
advice and post it anyway. I guess I'll never learn!
The ONLY purpose for posting this was as a friendly reminder to people
to adjust their camera clocks, something that is easy to forget. I
didn't intend to start the whole stupid DST discussion over again.
But each year I get a slew private emails back telling me that I don't
need to adjust my cell phone time (Wrong!)...That I don't need to set a
time zone one my GPS (Wrong!)...That I should keep my camera on
GMT...That I should move to Arizona, etc.
Gary
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Visit my Midway Island home page at http://gbe.dynip.com/Midway
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The above tagline is number 207 in a series of 549. Collect them all! |
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George
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject:
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Bill Funk wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:21:28 -0500, "jean" <try_to@find.it> wrote:
Cell phones get their time from the network so no adjustment needed.
In my experience, DIGITAL cell phons do this, but if you're using an
older analog phone, they don't get their time from the system.
Yeah, I know, who ues an older analog phone anymore? But If you're
roaming in an analog area, beware.
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I recently fired up an old analog phone the other day that did not have
a battery attached for at least 4 years and it got the correct time as
soon as it saw the phone network. I remember every analog phone I had in
the past did the same. |
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George
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject:
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Paul Allen wrote:
| Quote: | Gary Edstrom wrote:
For those of you who like to have correct time stamps on your pictures,
remember to set the clock in your still and/or video camera to the
correct time.
Other clocks to consider:
Kitchen Stove - Answering Machine - Still Camera - Video Camera
VCR - Car - Cell Phone - PDA - Microwave - Watch - FAX Machine
Central Air Conditioning - GPS
GPS units are fundamentally about knowing the precise time. They get
UTC from the satellites, calculate position by triangulation, and
therefore can calculate local time. I have to believe that the GPS
system knows all about the latest "savings time" rules all over the
planet.
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The GPS system doesn't need to know about time zones. It is sychronized
to CUT (UTC). The GPS receiver adds the offset to displayed time to
reflect the local time where it is located.
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Now, if I could just rig everything so that my GPS would use
bluetooth to update the microwave, the answering machine, the stove,
the camera, the VCR, etc. What's all this technology for anyway, if it
can't take care of this sort of thing for me? :-)
Paul Allen |
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Richard Crowley
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject:
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"George" wrote ...
| Quote: | I recently fired up an old analog phone the other day
that did not have a battery attached for at least 4 years
and it got the correct time as soon as it saw the phone
network. I remember every analog phone I had in
the past did the same.
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OTOH, my 3-old Panny analog phone (on Cingular)
is currently an hour fast. And my pager (digital, 2-
way) also apparently reqiuires manual intervention. |
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Prometheus
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:55 pm Post subject:
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In article <48adnWSyoID46vneRVn-2w@comcast.com>, Paul Allen <"paul dot l
dot allen at comcast dot net"@?.?.invalid> writes
| Quote: | GPS units are fundamentally about knowing the precise time. They get
UTC from the satellites, calculate position by triangulation, and
therefore can calculate local time. I have to believe that the GPS
system knows all about the latest "savings time" rules all over the
planet.
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Not quite true, GPS transmits GPS time with the offset to UTC (I think
16 seconds so far), this is because GPS has never implemented
leap-seconds (imagine the effect of moving the position of the
satellites by one second). The GPS receivers usually can usually have
an offset for local time entered, maybe some will take account local
time zone and DST from defined rules.
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George Kerby
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject:
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On 10/30/05 8:10 AM, in article vvk9m1p7g3li55cqrh3ts50j3g8r377elq@4ax.com,
"Bill Funk" <BigBill@pipping.com.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:21:28 -0500, "jean" <try_to@find.it> wrote:
Cell phones get their time from the network so no adjustment needed.
In my experience, DIGITAL cell phons do this, but if you're using an
older analog phone, they don't get their time from the system.
Yeah, I know, who ues an older analog phone anymore? But If you're
roaming in an analog area, beware.
Even with digital, you will have to "re-boot" the phone by turning it off |
and then back on.
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"Gary Edstrom" <gedstrom@pacbell.net> a écrit dans le message de
news:7ek8m1dg6pt1hskd1jrh2np3612rvfgtea@4ax.com...
For those of you who like to have correct time stamps on your pictures,
remember to set the clock in your still and/or video camera to the
correct time.
Other clocks to consider:
Kitchen Stove - Answering Machine - Still Camera - Video Camera
VCR - Car - Cell Phone - PDA - Microwave - Watch - FAX Machine
Central Air Conditioning - GPS
Gary
DISCLAIMER: 1. Yes, I know that I could keep my camera on GMT so that I
would never have to adjust it, but it's too much of a hassle to mentally
convert GMT to local time every time I look at the picture. 2. Yes, I
now that daylight time is a dumb idea, but what are you going to do? We
have it here! 3. Yes, I know that some electronic items will
automatically adjust to standard time, but not all of us have the latest
and greatest gadgets! 4. Yes, I know that Arizona doesn't have Daylight
time.
--
Gary Edstrom <gedstrom@pacbell.net
Visit my Midway Island home page at http://gbe.dynip.com/Midway
Justify my text? I'm sorry but it has no excuse.
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Frank ess
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject:
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Richard Crowley wrote:
| Quote: | "George" wrote ...
I recently fired up an old analog phone the other day
that did not have a battery attached for at least 4 years
and it got the correct time as soon as it saw the phone
network. I remember every analog phone I had in
the past did the same.
OTOH, my 3-old Panny analog phone (on Cingular)
is currently an hour fast. And my pager (digital, 2-
way) also apparently reqiuires manual intervention.
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OyetAnotherH, I don't even know how to _look_ at the hour-of-day on my
cell phone. If it rings I don't answer it, since no one has the number
but me and the service. I plugged in all the numbers I might want to
call, and use one maybe three times a year.
I don't think it is a character flaw to have little use for a
technology, or even to be ignorant of one or more. Although that might
not be a good idea. You might miss one that really resonates, like
digital photography.
--
Frank S
"Verbing weirds language."
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Richard Crowley
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:49 pm Post subject:
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"Frank ess" wrote ...
| Quote: | OyetAnotherH, I don't even know how to _look_ at
the hour-of-day on my cell phone.
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I don't have a wrist-watch, so I use my pager and/or
my cellphone as a portable indicator of time-of-day.
It works for me, and I haven't found a watch-band that
feels comfortable.
| Quote: | I don't think it is a character flaw to have little use for a
technology, or even to be ignorant of one or more. Although that might
not be a good idea. You might miss one that really resonates, like
digital photography.
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People have found portable indicators of time-of-day
quite useful for several hundred years now. I believe
in Switzerland they've actually made an industry of it. |
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Bill Funk
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:30 pm Post subject:
Re: End of Daylight Time in US: Have you changed your camera |
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On 30 Oct 2005 16:19:06 GMT, George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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On 10/30/05 8:10 AM, in article vvk9m1p7g3li55cqrh3ts50j3g8r377elq@4ax.com,
"Bill Funk" <BigBill@pipping.com.com> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 01:21:28 -0500, "jean" <try_to@find.it> wrote:
Cell phones get their time from the network so no adjustment needed.
In my experience, DIGITAL cell phons do this, but if you're using an
older analog phone, they don't get their time from the system.
Yeah, I know, who ues an older analog phone anymore? But If you're
roaming in an analog area, beware.
Even with digital, you will have to "re-boot" the phone by turning it off
and then back on.
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Why?
When leaving an analog area, I don't have to reboot the phone; when it
checks into a digital network, it gets all necessary info, including
time.
When entering an analog area, it doesn't need a reboot either.
So what's the need to reboot?
--
Bill Funk
Replace "g" with "a"
funktionality.blogspot.com |
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Prometheus
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject:
Re: End of Daylight Time in US: Have you changed your camera |
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In article <29idnY7_hcdpQPneRVn-jw@adelphia.com>, George
<george@nospam.invalid> writes
| Quote: | The GPS system doesn't need to know about time zones. It is sychronized
to CUT (UTC).
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Not quite, it is synchronised to GPS time.
| Quote: | The GPS receiver adds the offset to displayed time to reflect the local
time where it is located.
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Not quite, it adds the offset to display UTC, you have to tell it what
additional offset to added so that it can display the time you require
(which need not be your local mean or summer time).
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Ian G8ILZ |
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ASAAR
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:28 am Post subject:
Re: End of Daylight Time in US: Have you changed your camera |
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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 10:30:18 -0700, Bill Funk wrote:
| Quote: | Even with digital, you will have to "re-boot" the phone by turning it off
and then back on.
Why?
When leaving an analog area, I don't have to reboot the phone; when it
checks into a digital network, it gets all necessary info, including
time.
When entering an analog area, it doesn't need a reboot either.
So what's the need to reboot?
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Odds are if it really needs to reboot, it's running on one of MS's
portable Windows platforms. About 10 years ago I couldn't get back
into my office because the elevator bank hadn't been operating for
nearly an hour. When I noticed the console controlling the
elevators appeared to be a Windows app. I asked building security to
reboot the computer. (I had to show them how to do it). Within
seconds after rebooting, the elevators resumed operation. :) |
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Charles
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:53 am Post subject:
Re: End of Daylight Time in US: Have you changed your camera |
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In article <ql0am1dasgl6sf8vgmfvhd2ij9iacpeldh@4ax.com>, Bill Funk
<BigBill@pipping.com.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Why?
When leaving an analog area, I don't have to reboot the phone; when it
checks into a digital network, it gets all necessary info, including
time.
When entering an analog area, it doesn't need a reboot either.
So what's the need to reboot?
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I don't know why but if the phone is on, Verizon CDMA V60, it does not
auto change the time to from daylight savings to standard. To get the
correct time I have to turn the phone off and back on.
My computer, a Mac, changed the time this morning, it gets the time
from a network time server, but the newsreader program I use has to be
closed and reopened or it shows the wrong time after the time change.
--
Charles |
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Paul Allen
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:26 am Post subject:
Re: End of Daylight Time in US: Have you changed your camera |
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Ron Hunter wrote:
| Quote: | Paul Allen wrote:
Gary Edstrom wrote:
For those of you who like to have correct time stamps on your pictures,
remember to set the clock in your still and/or video camera to the
correct time.
Other clocks to consider:
Kitchen Stove - Answering Machine - Still Camera - Video Camera
VCR - Car - Cell Phone - PDA - Microwave - Watch - FAX Machine
Central Air Conditioning - GPS
GPS units are fundamentally about knowing the precise time. They get
UTC from the satellites, calculate position by triangulation, and
therefore can calculate local time. I have to believe that the GPS
system knows all about the latest "savings time" rules all over the
planet.
Now, if I could just rig everything so that my GPS would use
bluetooth to update the microwave, the answering machine, the stove,
the camera, the VCR, etc. What's all this technology for anyway, if it
can't take care of this sort of thing for me? :-)
Paul Allen
Some do, some don't. Mine is several years old and the local time has
to be set. Gotta get one of the shiny new ones someday....
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Yup. I discovered this morning that my old Eagle Explorer didn't have
the right local time even after acquiring a location fix. Oddly, it
has the ability to set the local time to whatever you want, but a cold
restart caused the thing to figure out my time zone and set the local
time to UTC minus 8 hours (Pacific Standard Time). My finance
director's got me on a budget, so if I buy a shiny new GPS I have to
forego the shiny new camera I'm hankerin' for. :-)
Dang! I haven't reset my camera's time yet! I wonder what else I've
forgotten?
Paul Allen |
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