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Rob Reedijk
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 2:09 am Post subject:
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I just bought a "lot" of cables at an auction, and let me tell you, it's
a LOT of cables!
There are a bunch of harnesses that have large 32 pin edge connectors. I
think they may be for an MCI console. Anything else that uses this?
Someone told me that some Neves use these---but I have only seen Neves
with Elco/Edac.
Anyone looking to buy 6 8in/8out XLR to 32 pin edge connectors plus a
bunch of other harnesses with the same configuration?
Rob R.
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Rob Reedijk
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:14 pm Post subject:
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umbriaco <umbriaco@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
Nope. But I got some of that stuff too. Those are 30 pin and they
are not edge connectors.
Rob R. |
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Rob Reedijk
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject:
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Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Rob Reedijk wrote:
I just bought a "lot" of cables at an auction, and let me tell you, it's
a LOT of cables!
There are a bunch of harnesses that have large 32 pin edge connectors. I
think they may be for an MCI console. Anything else that uses this?
Someone told me that some Neves use these---but I have only seen Neves
with Elco/Edac.
Neve use Edacs for the audio multipins.
Recent(ish) Neve channel cartridges use DIN standard 64 pin A/B connectors
per DIN41612.
These aren't 'edge connectors'. They are 2-part connectors. The pcb surface
is not part of the connector.
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Of course, you are right. I meant connectors like the older scsi type
that don't have pins. The connectors are about 3 inches wide with
large gold plated surfaces.
They are definitely audio. Perhaps a clue is the format. Each harness
has 8 channels of XLR male AND 8 channels of XLR female. The large
32 conductor connectors are female.
They came from a large studio. The fact that there are 6 of them
suggests that they had a large 48 channel board. Alternatively, they
could have attached to 2 24track machines.
I am not sure why they would have needed these. Would the connections
in a large room be multipin? Or hardwired to patchbays? I guess these
could have had some remote/location application.
I hate to cut these up for xlr snakes. I guess if I don't find a home
for them, I will probably eventually do that.
Rob R. |
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umbriaco
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Mike Rivers
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject:
Re: Console/large 32 pin Edge Connector? |
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Rob Reedijk wrote:
| Quote: | There are a bunch of harnesses that have large 32 pin edge connectors. I
think they may be for an MCI console.
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MCI consoles used a "Tuchel" pin-and-socket connector, 30 pins, I
believe. I can't think of any console that uses edgeboard (if that's
what you mean by "edge") connectors, but you never can tell.
I wonder if they were for some instruentation application. Seems to me
I recall some H-P scanners that used edgeboard connectors. Did they
come out of a studio, or are you just guessing they're audio cables
because of the XLRs?
If it's decent quality two-pair shielded cable in a bundle, the cable
with XLRs might be worth something to someone who's putting together a
patchbay with solder terminals, and just cuts off the 32-pin connector.
Probably a dollar a foot (assuming they're in useful lengths) would be
a reasonable asking price. Don't be a piker and ask how much the
connectors are worth. |
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Pooh Bear
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:13 pm Post subject:
Re: Console/large 32 pin Edge Connector? |
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Rob Reedijk wrote:
| Quote: | I just bought a "lot" of cables at an auction, and let me tell you, it's
a LOT of cables!
There are a bunch of harnesses that have large 32 pin edge connectors. I
think they may be for an MCI console. Anything else that uses this?
Someone told me that some Neves use these---but I have only seen Neves
with Elco/Edac.
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Neve use Edacs for the audio multipins.
Recent(ish) Neve channel cartridges use DIN standard 64 pin A/B connectors
per DIN41612.
These aren't 'edge connectors'. They are 2-part connectors. The pcb surface
is not part of the connector.
Very early Neves used original edge connectors that mated directly with the
pcb. This required the wearing part of the pcb to be gold plated.
Graham |
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Scott Dorsey
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:18 pm Post subject:
Re: Console/large 32 pin Edge Connector? |
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Mike Rivers <mrivers@d-and-d.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Rob Reedijk wrote:
There are a bunch of harnesses that have large 32 pin edge connectors. I
think they may be for an MCI console.
MCI consoles used a "Tuchel" pin-and-socket connector, 30 pins, I
believe. I can't think of any console that uses edgeboard (if that's
what you mean by "edge") connectors, but you never can tell.
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Some broadcast consoles did this. I think some of the less flaky Sparta
models did, for instance.
| Quote: | I wonder if they were for some instruentation application. Seems to me
I recall some H-P scanners that used edgeboard connectors. Did they
come out of a studio, or are you just guessing they're audio cables
because of the XLRs?
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Many of the instrumentation guys use pin 3 for ground. This seems like
a bad idea to me (since pin 1 is supposed to mate first, right?) but it
is popular among the wind tunnel crowd. So check the cables and if you
see the shield tied to pin 3, you can assume that's where they came from.
| Quote: | If it's decent quality two-pair shielded cable in a bundle, the cable
with XLRs might be worth something to someone who's putting together a
patchbay with solder terminals, and just cuts off the 32-pin connector.
Probably a dollar a foot (assuming they're in useful lengths) would be
a reasonable asking price. Don't be a piker and ask how much the
connectors are worth.
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Cable is good. You can never have too much cable or too many connectors.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." |
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John Deans
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:29 am Post subject:
Re: Console/large 32 pin Edge Connector? |
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personally I've never had problems with EDAC miltipins have used them with
no problems for some years
John D
"Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Rob Reedijk wrote:
I just bought a "lot" of cables at an auction, and let me tell you, it's
a LOT of cables!
There are a bunch of harnesses that have large 32 pin edge connectors.
I
think they may be for an MCI console. Anything else that uses this?
Someone told me that some Neves use these---but I have only seen Neves
with Elco/Edac.
Neve use Edacs for the audio multipins.
Recent(ish) Neve channel cartridges use DIN standard 64 pin A/B connectors
per DIN41612.
These aren't 'edge connectors'. They are 2-part connectors. The pcb
surface
is not part of the connector.
Very early Neves used original edge connectors that mated directly with
the
pcb. This required the wearing part of the pcb to be gold plated.
Graham
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Pooh Bear
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:22 am Post subject:
Re: Console/large 32 pin Edge Connector? |
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John Deans wrote:
| Quote: | personally I've never had problems with EDAC miltipins have used them with
no problems for some years
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Where did I say there were problems with Edacs ?
Graham |
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Scott Dorsey
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:25 am Post subject:
Re: Console/large 32 pin Edge Connector? |
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Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | John Deans wrote:
personally I've never had problems with EDAC miltipins have used them with
no problems for some years
Where did I say there were problems with Edacs ?
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I've had big problems with EDACs. They are very flimsy... run them over
with a truck once, and they're wrecked. The male pins are always getting
damaged when people drop the cables off high places and leave them around
in the back of the truck without covers. The Whirlwinds and Bendix types
are much better.... they can be run over with the truck all day without
failing.
--scott
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Pooh Bear
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:42 am Post subject:
Re: Console/large 32 pin Edge Connector? |
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
| Quote: | Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Deans wrote:
personally I've never had problems with EDAC miltipins have used them with
no problems for some years
Where did I say there were problems with Edacs ?
I've had big problems with EDACs. They are very flimsy... run them over
with a truck once, and they're wrecked. The male pins are always getting
damaged when people drop the cables off high places and leave them around
in the back of the truck without covers. The Whirlwinds and Bendix types
are much better.... they can be run over with the truck all day without
failing.
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For mobile use, I agree. I've had Edacs with broken pins too.
For a fixed install no problem though.
Graham |
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Rob Reedijk
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:06 pm Post subject:
Re: Console/large 32 pin Edge Connector? |
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I can now tell you that the connectors are Amphenol Blue Ribbon. There is
an image of a piece of equipment with such a connector on its face at
http://www.pdp8.net/ax08/pics/ax08_front.shtml?small
However the one showing is just a 16 pin, whereas the ones on my harnesses are
32 pin.
Someone kindly emailed me this hint who seems to know a bit about some
consoles in Toronto in the early days. These harnesses may have been made
for a large Neve console.
Rob R.
Rob Reedijk <reedijk@hera.med.utoronto.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | Of course, you are right. I meant connectors like the older scsi type
that don't have pins. The connectors are about 3 inches wide with
large gold plated surfaces.
They are definitely audio. Perhaps a clue is the format. Each harness
has 8 channels of XLR male AND 8 channels of XLR female. The large
32 conductor connectors are female.
They came from a large studio. The fact that there are 6 of them
suggests that they had a large 48 channel board. Alternatively, they
could have attached to 2 24track machines.
I am not sure why they would have needed these. Would the connections
in a large room be multipin? Or hardwired to patchbays? I guess these
could have had some remote/location application.
I hate to cut these up for xlr snakes. I guess if I don't find a home
for them, I will probably eventually do that. |
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