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Ciana
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:49 pm Post subject:
Nero 7 |
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Any big changes from Nero 6.x.x to 7 or is it not worth to buy the new one?
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Bill Vermillion
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
Re: Nero 7 |
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I put in 7 [after using 4,5 and 6] and wasn't not as happy.
The upgrade to 7.5 never did work correctly with errors of not
being able to find a license and re-install.
I followed the directions that were supposed to take care of this
and nothing. So I removed it. And I still get errors of Sonic
Cineplayer not finding the license - even after everything was
supposed to be uninstalled.
I'm washing my hands of Roxio - as I've never had a more painful
experience.
And I make my living keeping networks running so I'm not totally
lacking in clues.
Bill
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Alpha
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:40 am Post subject:
Re: Nero 7 |
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worth the upgrade.
A number of people have noted that the new Roxio version is impressive.
Having been stung multiple times by their buggy creations, it will take a
lot to get me to believe it is good. |
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Robin Banks
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:11 am Post subject:
Re: Nero 7 |
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I know plenty of IT people that couldn't find their ass with both hands and a
roadmap, so...
Not saying you're one of them, just that not everyone in every job knows that
their doing.
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Help the victims: https://give.redcross.org/ |
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Bill Vermillion
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
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Almost everyone on the net states the answer is a resounding NO it is not
worth the upgrade.
A number of people have noted that the new Roxio version is
impressive. Having been stung multiple times by their buggy
creations, it will take a lot to get me to believe it is good.
I put in 7 [after using 4,5 and 6] and wasn't not as happy.
The upgrade to 7.5 never did work correctly with errors of not
being able to find a license and re-install.
The new version would be v8.0. I haven't tried it yet, but I
haven't had problems with v6.x. However, I mainly use it for
audio burning only. I feel there's better programs that it (or
Nero) for getting video on to a DVD. (Excepting the use of Nero
strictly for burning, but not encoding.)
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As I said I've used 4,5 and 6. I liked things in 5 that weren't
in 6. But while the upgrade to 7 was painless I liked the features
in 6 better. So I did the upgrade to 7.5 hoping it would get
better. And it had problems that even following the Roxio
methods for removing and re-installing did not cure the problems.
The worse was the idea that Sonice Cineplayer would insist on
trhing to start anytime I clicked on an MPG - even though that was
not what was supposed to start by default and another program was.
| Quote: | And I make my living keeping networks running so I'm not totally
lacking in clues.
I know plenty of IT people that couldn't find their ass with both
hands and a roadmap, so...
Not saying you're one of them, just that not everyone in every
job knows that their doing.
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I don't consider myself an IT person - but a trouble shooter - and
specialing in Unix servers. Keeping two ISPs running in the past.
CE at a recording studio that would take about $3 million to
replace today [analog gets expensive]. Worked in TV. And the only
thing I never really disliked working with were broadcast radio
transmitters. I never cared for RF - as I don't like things that
you can't see or hear that can reach out an kill you :-(.
And years ago when I was still at the university the department
said I had shot enough miles of film to be called a profssional,
and had my first VCR starting in 1977.
And I've been called in to fix things that some who call themselves
IT professionals screw up.
References on request.
Bill
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Smarty
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: Nero 7 |
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Bill,
I've been playing with the upgrade to Nero 7 for about a day now, and posted
some of my negative experiences with Nero Vision Express 4, the latest rev
which is now included in the Ultra Nero 7 package. Speaking merely as one
user, I would have to say that the Nero 7 upgrade does have some redeeming
features which ***COULD*** justify the cost of the upgrade. These include:
--Support for Blue Ray media for video and data
--5.1 and 7.1 channel audio editing, mixing, and recording
--looping sound editor with adjustable tempos, new surround effects, etc.
--PDA / MPEG4 support
--ability to create bootable restore disks including Blue Ray
--time-shifting TV recording with hardware capture card support for
Hauppauge PVR and others
--Digital Dolby 5.1 encoder support
along with the HDV video editing capabilities I referred to in another
thread on this forum yesterday.
All considered, the $50 cost strikes me as being reasonable, but I have yet
to learn whether many of these new features actually work as advertised.
Smarty |
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Robin Banks
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: Nero 7 |
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On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 03:05:01 GMT, bv@wjv.com (Bill Vermillion) wrote:
| Quote: | And the only thing I never really disliked working with were broadcast radio
transmitters. I never cared for RF - as I don't like things that
you can't see or hear that can reach out an kill you :-(.
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C'mon now... that's half the fun. Radiation and RF burns. Yippie! ;-)
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Bill Vermillion
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:05 pm Post subject:
Re: Nero 7 |
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In article <9kdam1h6erp76mpiffjkkdrp4hcu64vrql@4ax.com>,
Robin Banks <rbn_banks@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 03:05:06 GMT, bv@wjv.com (Bill Vermillion) wrote:
In article <11m84s4d37gse0c@corp.supernews.com>, Alpha <none@none.net> wrote:
"Ciana" <jciana@bluewin.ch> wrote in message
news:4363c246$1_3@news.bluewin.ch...
Any big changes from Nero 6.x.x to 7 or is it not worth to buy the new
one?
Almost everyone on the net states the answer is a resounding NO it is not
worth the upgrade.
A number of people have noted that the new Roxio version is
impressive. Having been stung multiple times by their buggy
creations, it will take a lot to get me to believe it is good.
I put in 7 [after using 4,5 and 6] and wasn't not as happy.
The upgrade to 7.5 never did work correctly with errors of not
being able to find a license and re-install.
The new version would be v8.0. I haven't tried it yet, but I
haven't had problems with v6.x. However, I mainly use it for
audio burning only. I feel there's better programs that it (or
Nero) for getting video on to a DVD. (Excepting the use of Nero
strictly for burning, but not encoding.)
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I never had problems with 6 either that's why I went for the 7
release. I had to reinstall my system last week and 7 got most of
the way through installing, had an error, and then backed
everything out.
I used to use a mix of Roxio and Nero - and now it's just Nero. I
did like the labeling part of Roxio 5 however.
| Quote: | And I make my living keeping networks running so I'm not totally
lacking in clues.
I know plenty of IT people that couldn't find their ass with both
hands and a roadmap, so...
Not saying you're one of them, just that not everyone in every
job knows that their doing.
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I think I replied to that.
Bill
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Bill Vermillion
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:15 pm Post subject:
Re: Nero 7 |
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In article <lKKdnb-puf4zcffenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@adelphia.com>,
Smarty <nobody@nobody.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Bill,
I've been playing with the upgrade to Nero 7 for about a day
now, and posted some of my negative experiences with Nero Vision
Express 4, the latest rev which is now included in the Ultra
Nero 7 package. Speaking merely as one user, I would have to say
that the Nero 7 upgrade does have some redeeming features which
***COULD*** justify the cost of the upgrade. These include:
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I'm still waiting for email from Nero about the upgrade price - as
I registered to be mailed info on that.
| Quote: | --Support for Blue Ray media for video and data
--5.1 and 7.1 channel audio editing, mixing, and recording
--looping sound editor with adjustable tempos, new surround effects, etc.
--PDA / MPEG4 support
--ability to create bootable restore disks including Blue Ray
--time-shifting TV recording with hardware capture card support for
Hauppauge PVR and others
--Digital Dolby 5.1 encoder support
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The sound editor sounds interesting. I don't have a capture card -
I have a Canopus ADVC300 that I use for video xfers in and it also
connects to a VCR with a tuner. But I do plan to build another
machine to make into a PVR>
| Quote: | along with the HDV video editing capabilities I referred to in another
thread on this forum yesterday.
All considered, the $50 cost strikes me as being reasonable, but
I have yet to learn whether many of these new features actually
work as advertised.
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That's a reasonable price from my POV. I'll send them a note
saying I haven't seen the upgrade info yet.
Thanks.
Bill
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Bill Vermillion - bv @ wjv . com |
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Bill Vermillion
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Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:15 pm Post subject:
Re: Nero 7 |
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In article <54vnm1pelruu30brfuec7abie5aejd82ue@4ax.com>,
Robin Banks <rbn_banks@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 03:05:01 GMT, bv@wjv.com (Bill Vermillion) wrote:
And the only thing I never really disliked working with were broadcast radio
transmitters. I never cared for RF - as I don't like things that
you can't see or hear that can reach out an kill you :-(.
C'mon now... that's half the fun. Radiation and RF burns. Yippie! ;-)
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I remember when the physics lab had a demo of lighting a
flourescent tube by holding it next to a small verital wire that
had RF on it.
Someone was curious and put there hand down on the wire and it
burned a hole in their hand.
The guy climbing the tower showed me a hole in his hand when he
came down after changing a bulb. He had a hole in his glove.
You really can't take the station off the air during the day to
change bulbs - but the thought of climbing onto a hot tower
frightens me. You make a wrong move and you are in trouble.
Bill
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Smarty
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Mon Nov 14, 2005 5:40 am Post subject:
Re: Nero 7 |
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Bill,
One more additional input:
Since my earlier reply, I've spent some additional time with Nero and
specifically tried to test the new functions and features. I was extremely
disappointed to find out that ***NONE*** of the new templates for DVD
authoring have been released yet (the program comes with only 1 very basic
template), that the HDV editing is extremely slow, that the claim to handle
DVD-Audio format is (apparently) incorrect, and that Digital Dolby ac3
support is extremely limited IMHO. To add more to the negative side, the
email replies regarding various questions I've had to Nero's support people
have taken about 8 days for each reply, for the 3 issues I have raised, and
these replies have been very lacking in technical depth. My most recent
question regarding templates was answered with a question asking me "Where
did you look for the templates?" for example.
On the positive side, the new sound editing / looping is really very nice
and seems to work well. And the burner software does supposedly handle
BlueRay and has the new menu stuff to indicate that it is truly there if,
and when, the drives become available at a reasonable price.
The upgrade price was $50 for a Nero 6 Ultimate purchaser prior to their cut
off date, and I would still buy the product even knowing that a lot of their
functionality is not released yet. Like many other software companies, they
are releasing an extremely incomplete product, so waiting may be a better
idea if you don't want to spend $50 on the "if come" basis.
Smarty |
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