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Bob
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:31 am    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:22:47 -0600, "Ken Maltby"
<kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Quote:
Within VideoReDo's options there is a setting under the
"General Parameters" to have it "Output Streams for Movie
Factory" , perhaps you should check that box.

It was checked the moment I installed it.

Quote:
A good general description of DVD compliant MPEG,
from the TDA help section:

Thanks for the info.

When I export a clip in MF4 I select DVD compliant. No matter what I
try I still get audio sync problems with one particular clip.


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"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
-- George Bernard Shaw

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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:32 am    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:12:24 -0800, "Alpha" <none@none.net> wrote:

Quote:
I do not agree at all. I have experienced not one bug nor one sync problem
in over 30 dvds authored with the program.

You are lucky.

I have this one clip that I cannot get to sync properly no matter what
I try, and that includes VideoReDo.


--

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
-- George Bernard Shaw
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:08 am    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:12:24 -0800, "Alpha" <none@none.net> wrote:

I do not agree at all. I have experienced not one bug nor one sync
problem
in over 30 dvds authored with the program.

You are lucky.

I have this one clip that I cannot get to sync properly no matter what
I try, and that includes VideoReDo.


--

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.

Perhaps you should understand your signature....it is you that have a bad
file and are out of sync.
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Ken Maltby
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:12:24 -0800, "Alpha" <none@none.net> wrote:

I do not agree at all. I have experienced not one bug nor one sync
problem
in over 30 dvds authored with the program.

You are lucky.

I have this one clip that I cannot get to sync properly no matter what
I try, and that includes VideoReDo.


It is possible that you have a clip that was digitized/captured
out of lip sync. If that is the case, the video and audio frame
markers will line up so that it remains out of sync. QuickFix
is doing its job by properly aligning the markers, if it were a
matter of the audio& video being out of sync due to dropped
or purposely discarded frames then QuickFix would have fixed
the problem. This is all that is needed for 99% of such issues.

For the few that are digitized out of sync, VideoReDo has a
feature under the "Tools" tab called "Adjust Audio
Synchronization ..." Why not give that a try.

Luck;
Ken
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Ken Maltby
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
news:436be184.120004250@news-server.houston.rr.com...
Quote:
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:12:24 -0800, "Alpha" <none@none.net> wrote:

I do not agree at all. I have experienced not one bug nor one sync
problem
in over 30 dvds authored with the program.

You are lucky.

I have this one clip that I cannot get to sync properly no matter what
I try, and that includes VideoReDo.


It is possible that you have a clip that was digitized/captured
out of lip sync. If that is the case, the video and audio frame
markers will line up so that it remains out of sync. QuickFix
is doing its job by properly aligning the markers, if it were a
matter of the audio& video being out of sync due to dropped
or purposely discarded frames then QuickFix would have fixed
the problem. This is all that is needed for 99% of such issues.

For the few that are digitized out of sync, VideoReDo has a
feature under the "Tools" tab called "Adjust Audio
Synchronization ..." Why not give that a try.

Luck;
Ken
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Cathy De Viney
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

Just give up on Bob...he bad-mouths MF4 and VRD because they can't fix his
bad file...so he says the programs are bad and not worth using.

"Alpha" <none@none.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
news:436be184.120004250@news-server.houston.rr.com...
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:12:24 -0800, "Alpha" <none@none.net> wrote:

I do not agree at all. I have experienced not one bug nor one sync
problem
in over 30 dvds authored with the program.

You are lucky.

I have this one clip that I cannot get to sync properly no matter what
I try, and that includes VideoReDo.


--

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.

Perhaps you should understand your signature....it is you that have a bad
file and are out of sync.

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Alpha
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
news:436be0ea.119850390@news-server.houston.rr.com...
Quote:
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:22:47 -0600, "Ken Maltby"
kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Within VideoReDo's options there is a setting under the
"General Parameters" to have it "Output Streams for Movie
Factory" , perhaps you should check that box.

It was checked the moment I installed it.

A good general description of DVD compliant MPEG,
from the TDA help section:

Thanks for the info.

When I export a clip in MF4 I select DVD compliant. No matter what I
try I still get audio sync problems with one particular clip.


--

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore
all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
-- George Bernard Shaw
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Alpha
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

" No matter what I
Quote:
try I still get audio sync problems with one particular clip.


Then the clip is bad. You never took reasoning or logic in school did you
and ended up brain dead?
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Bob
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 00:00:31 -0800, "Alpha" <none@none.net> wrote:

Quote:
" No matter what I
try I still get audio sync problems with one particular clip.

Then the clip is bad.

No, the clip is not bad. It plays just fine with no audio sync
problems. It's only when I render it with MF4 does it get screwed up.

Quote:
You never took reasoning or logic in school did you
and ended up brain dead?

You are a retard.


--

"The scientist is possessed by a rapturous amazement at the
harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such
superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking
and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

"This feeling is the guiding principle of his life and work,
in so far as he succeeds in keeping himself from the shackles
of selfish desire. It is beyond question closely akin to that
which has possessed the religious geniuses of all ages."

--Albert Einstein
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Bob
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:10:21 -0600, "Cathy De Viney"
<ccdeviney@NOSPAM.cox.net> wrote:

Quote:
Just give up on Bob...he bad-mouths MF4 and VRD because they can't fix his
bad file...so he says the programs are bad and not worth using.

The file is not bad. It plays just fine before I render it with MF4.

Are you another retard?

--

"The scientist is possessed by a rapturous amazement at the
harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such
superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking
and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

"This feeling is the guiding principle of his life and work,
in so far as he succeeds in keeping himself from the shackles
of selfish desire. It is beyond question closely akin to that
which has possessed the religious geniuses of all ages."

--Albert Einstein
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Bob
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 8:28 pm    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:11:06 -0600, "Ken Maltby"
<kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Quote:
I have this one clip that I cannot get to sync properly no matter what
I try, and that includes VideoReDo.

It is possible that you have a clip that was digitized/captured
out of lip sync.

The clip is not out of sync until I render it with MF4.

Quote:
If that is the case, the video and audio frame
markers will line up so that it remains out of sync. QuickFix
is doing its job by properly aligning the markers, if it were a
matter of the audio& video being out of sync due to dropped
or purposely discarded frames then QuickFix would have fixed
the problem. This is all that is needed for 99% of such issues.

The original clip does not require fixing since it is in sync. The
clip I get after rendering with MF4 (I use the "export" facility with
Two Pass rendering), is out of sync.

I have tried to run the original clip thru VideoReDo just to make sure
it is OK and then render it with MF4 - it then becomes out of sync.

I have also run the rendered clip that is out of sync thru VRD and it
does not correct the problem.

Quote:
For the few that are digitized out of sync, VideoReDo has a
feature under the "Tools" tab called "Adjust Audio
Synchronization ..." Why not give that a try.

I tried that before and could not get it to work in MF4. But this time
I spent more effort because you recommended it. If I play with MF4
carefully I can get it to work. By that I mean saying No to the dialog
that asks me if I want to "improve" the import. Apparently that's when
things get screwed up. So what I did was to substitute the VRD fix for
the old one and pretend that it was the same as far as MF4 is
concerned.

Now it works. Maybe I need to change my mind about VRD/MF4. But it
still seems to be a lot of fooling around just to fix something that
should not be screwed up.

BTW, the adjustment was 500 ms, or 1/2 second. That's 15 frames. I
wonder if that is significant.

Also the out of sync condition gets progressively worse each time the
scene changes from the singer to something else and back. So that 1/2
second was a compromise to get the overall clip as balanced as I
could.

I suppose I could split the clip into pieces and apply the right about
of sync shift to each segment. But then when I glue them back together
I might experience gaps in the audio which is far worse than lip sync
problems.

Thanks for the assistance. You were a lot more helpful than the babies
who whined about my criticism.





--

"The scientist is possessed by a rapturous amazement at the
harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such
superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking
and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

"This feeling is the guiding principle of his life and work,
in so far as he succeeds in keeping himself from the shackles
of selfish desire. It is beyond question closely akin to that
which has possessed the religious geniuses of all ages."

--Albert Einstein
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Ken Maltby
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:10:21 -0600, "Cathy De Viney"
ccdeviney@NOSPAM.cox.net> wrote:

Just give up on Bob...he bad-mouths MF4 and VRD because they can't fix his
bad file...so he says the programs are bad and not worth using.

The file is not bad. It plays just fine before I render it with MF4.

Are you another retard?

--

"The scientist is possessed by a rapturous amazement at the
harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such
superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking
and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

"This feeling is the guiding principle of his life and work,
in so far as he succeeds in keeping himself from the shackles
of selfish desire. It is beyond question closely akin to that
which has possessed the religious geniuses of all ages."

--Albert Einstein

Hmmm.... You ask if someone is "another" retard, then
you quote Albert Einstein? Think much of yourself there,
Bob?
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Alpha
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
news:436cb985.19250109@news-server.houston.rr.com...
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:10:21 -0600, "Cathy De Viney"
ccdeviney@NOSPAM.cox.net> wrote:

Just give up on Bob...he bad-mouths MF4 and VRD because they can't fix
his
bad file...so he says the programs are bad and not worth using.

The file is not bad. It plays just fine before I render it with MF4.

Are you another retard?

--

"The scientist is possessed by a rapturous amazement at the
harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such
superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking
and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

"This feeling is the guiding principle of his life and work,
in so far as he succeeds in keeping himself from the shackles
of selfish desire. It is beyond question closely akin to that
which has possessed the religious geniuses of all ages."

--Albert Einstein

Hmmm.... You ask if someone is "another" retard, then
you quote Albert Einstein? Think much of yourself there,
Bob?


It is a revealing quote...revealing how wrong Einstein was. He never could
grasp Heisenberg.
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Ken Maltby
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

Quote:

"The scientist is possessed by a rapturous amazement at the
harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such
superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking
and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

"This feeling is the guiding principle of his life and work,
in so far as he succeeds in keeping himself from the shackles
of selfish desire. It is beyond question closely akin to that
which has possessed the religious geniuses of all ages."

--Albert Einstein

Hmmm.... You ask if someone is "another" retard, then
you quote Albert Einstein? Think much of yourself there,
Bob?


"Alpha" <none@none.net> wrote in message

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Quote:

It is a revealing quote...revealing how wrong Einstein was. He never
could grasp Heisenberg.


While Heisenberg and uncertainty could provide an alternate
interpretation on the genesis of the phenomenon Einstein described,
I don't see how you can say that makes him wrong, in any way.
It was the nature of the human reaction, that is the quote.
/Ken
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Bob
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:57 am    Post subject: Re: DVD Authoring Program Reply with quote

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 12:43:02 -0800, "Alpha" <none@none.net> wrote:

Quote:
It is a revealing quote...revealing how wrong Einstein was. He never could
grasp Heisenberg.

Einstein and the other Realists (Schrodinger, Planck, et al) won the
battle over Bohr, Heisenberg and the Copenhagenists (Pauli, et al).


--

"The scientist is possessed by a rapturous amazement at the
harmony of natural law, which reveals an intelligence of such
superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking
and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection.

"This feeling is the guiding principle of his life and work,
in so far as he succeeds in keeping himself from the shackles
of selfish desire. It is beyond question closely akin to that
which has possessed the religious geniuses of all ages."

--Albert Einstein
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