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Wolf
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:24 pm    Post subject: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

Need to make a decision soon and need advice

Q. Does plasma consume far more power compared tp LCD?
Q. Has LCD overcome the "smear" during fast motion?
Q. Is there a definative answer to which system is best and why?
(generalising)
or a site that I can turn to.

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John
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

Wolf wrote:
Quote:
Need to make a decision soon and need advice

Q. Does plasma consume far more power compared tp LCD?

No. They consume a more, but not 'far more'. Getting closer all the time.

Quote:
Q. Has LCD overcome the "smear" during fast motion?

No. Again, they are getting better all the time though.

Quote:
Q. Is there a definative answer to which system is best and why?
(generalising)
or a site that I can turn to.

Nope. They are all biased in one way or the other.

I like Plasma's for the main living/viewing room. but LCD's for
bedrooms/small spaces. Basically LCD's are good up to a certain size,
then plasmas take over. They don't directly compete with each other.
Yes, there are some that cross over, but your paying big bucks for a 40"
LCD and the plasmas will still give a better picture. Same as above 50"
projectors are the way to go - again with a cross over.

Take any LCD vs Plasma review with a grain of salt.

John.
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www.168computers.com
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

I agreed with John. LCD are more suitable for smaller size. They are
typically heavier and collapse on their on size when too big. Plasma is
able to go bigger but has some burn-in problem but hey, $5000 for 6 5
years not too bad. If you want to go bigger, projector is the way to go.

John wrote:
Quote:
Wolf wrote:

Need to make a decision soon and need advice

Q. Does plasma consume far more power compared tp LCD?


No. They consume a more, but not 'far more'. Getting closer all the time.

Q. Has LCD overcome the "smear" during fast motion?


No. Again, they are getting better all the time though.

Q. Is there a definative answer to which system is best and why?
(generalising)
or a site that I can turn to.


Nope. They are all biased in one way or the other.

I like Plasma's for the main living/viewing room. but LCD's for
bedrooms/small spaces. Basically LCD's are good up to a certain size,
then plasmas take over. They don't directly compete with each other.
Yes, there are some that cross over, but your paying big bucks for a 40"
LCD and the plasmas will still give a better picture. Same as above 50"
projectors are the way to go - again with a cross over.

Take any LCD vs Plasma review with a grain of salt.

John.
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Trevor Lees
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

Sony V series LCD's are the best I've seen they are out now in some Sony
stores and up to Nov 9th in other stores,up to 40 inches above that you need
plasma,

cheers Trevor Lees
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Need to make a decision soon and need advice

Q. Does plasma consume far more power compared tp LCD?
Q. Has LCD overcome the "smear" during fast motion?
Q. Is there a definative answer to which system is best and why?
(generalising)
or a site that I can turn to.


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TommyGun
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

I have a 42" HD plasma and it shows a fantasic picture. I would opt for
plasma at this size. I also have a 19" LCD in my bedroom and the
picture does not compare. Like you say, smears when in motion. The
picture on the plasma is much more fluid like. For me there is no
choice.
What people are saying above though is also correct, I also get to
watch a 68" HD plasma on a regular basis, and although the size of it
is comanding, the picture on my smaller unit does seem to be of better
quality.
Above 42" go projector......
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Olfda Lertih
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

I recently posted this in another thread :
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Why would you waste so much on an LCD when the technology still is far
from being perfect. I have yet to see an LCD that can do as a black as
an equivalent plasma, or crt. True you can get true 1080i LCD's and not
plasmas, but what do we have in Australia at the moment (bar a good PC)
that takes advantage of it? Our HDtv system is still in early stages
and leaves a hell of a lot to be desired.

Only benefit I see in LCD is a) you can get them in sizes under 42" b)
all lcd's are generally HD c) LCD's are great for computer use as you
can't burn them. d) you can replace the backlighting

Flip side:

a) LCD's still have far from perfect blacks, I think the best ones are
800:1 b) screens are easy to
damage especially with children around c) Some LCD's pump out as much
heat as a plasma d) Many LCD's still suffer from poor viewing angles e)
LCD's are still ridiculously expensive compared to similar plasmas f)
Some LCD's still have a tendency to blur with fast movement. Granted
though all LCD's are getting better every generation that comes out.

Undecided : Power consumption, people say LCD's consume less however
some i've encountered pump out fair amounts of heat (how does this heat
affect the life of the panel itself?) - LCD's have their blacklights
continuously on, whereas Plasma each pixel is always changing its light
output. Has anyone have an solid figures on this? Because I've been
asked this question numerous times by customers, and I find it hard to
give a straight answer.
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At the end of the day LCD still has a long way to go, I haven't not yet
seen an LCD that would convince me to invest in one, bar the 1080i
sharp.

I work for Harvey Norman, so on a weekly basis I get to see and
compare. Mosst LCD's are good but not great, but still the plasmas
rule. The new LG 37" & 42" LCD's with integrated HD tuners have ghastly
pictures and poor viewing angles, the SD 42" LG with integrated tuner
has a superior picture in my honest opinion.

When dealing with customers I simply say if you want anything smaller
than 40" you only have LCD as an option, if you want bigger unless you
plan to hook your computer up to it, go a Plasma. If you want the best
value for money and picture quality, a plasma is the way to go.

I personally dont see a future in LCD, especially with OLED & SED on
the horizon. That being said I think plasma with fade out to. I see
plasma as just the transition from CRT to the next step (either OLED or
SED) but as I said at the moment Plasma is the best looking flat panel
tech currently available on the market and until something better comes
out, I'll be putting my money on the plasma horse.
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Olfda Lertih
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

The 505 had/has HDMI.

Except for LG none of the other major plasma makers have integrated
tuners.

The new HD LG's with integrated tuners have so,so pictures.

I still think the SD model with the integrated tuner has a much nicer
picture.
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Alan Rutlidge
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

"TT" <TTencerNOSPAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
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At the end of the day LCD still has a long way to go, I
haven't not yet
seen an LCD that would convince me to invest in one, bar
the 1080i
sharp.

That's the unit that made me decide to buy plasma ;-) After
being told by everyone that this was *THE* LCD to have I was
very disappointed. Why would anyone pay that much for such
a small screen that has issues?

I work for Harvey Norman,

That's where I bought my Pioneer 50" from. I actually had a
great deal - for about 3 weeks then the price fell.

BTW brand new out of the box it had 1 hot blue pixel in the
main viewing area :-( Unit was swapped next day. The man
from HNs was not a happy chappie - 2 unpacks and 2 home
setups for one commission ;-)

I'll be putting my money on the plasma horse.

I just have :-)

Cheers TT


Got a look at the new Pioneer PDP-506HD yesterday. Looks like they haven't
got a digital tuner in the box yet. :-( I would have thought Pioneer would
have probably done a dual digital / analogue tuner for the benefit of
country folk and of course those who watch Community Access TV (ch31).
However according to the sales drone it now has HDMI (but I thought the 505
had that too??? - could be wrong but then again I don't own one.)

Asking price was $7600 which isn't much down from the r.r.p. but as the guy
said - "we can negotiate on that price....."

Cheers,
Alan
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Olfda Lertih
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

We got a one only for $5999 as of yesterday. They are a nice plasma,
however sitting next to the 50" Philips, the Philips has the edge. But
then again the Pioneers out of the box apparently need pro calibration
to make them shine.

The sharp I was saw impressive, hooked up to a Chinese HVD player,
picture was stunning. But at the price of $14k, it just wasn't worth
it. Even the best LCDtv's at the moment can only do 800:1 contrast, the
best plasmas are far ahead of that.

I know how the salesdroid would've felt, I don't mind doing home setups
myself you can make great money on the side doing it :) sometimes I
throw it in as a freebie just to close a sale. Other times people just
like the idea that the person who served them will come out and help
them to (even if they have to pay) Although I hate when people
expect/demand it for free, as that's offensive, it's like people don't
understand petrol costs money and outside of work we do have a life. I
gotta balance work life and uni life, so my time is valuable and
precious and worth every $$$. Sorry i'm ranting here.
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

"Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
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Quote:
At the end of the day LCD still has a long way to go, I
haven't not yet
seen an LCD that would convince me to invest in one, bar
the 1080i
sharp.

That's the unit that made me decide to buy plasma ;-) After
being told by everyone that this was *THE* LCD to have I was
very disappointed. Why would anyone pay that much for such
a small screen that has issues?
Quote:

I work for Harvey Norman,

That's where I bought my Pioneer 50" from. I actually had a
great deal - for about 3 weeks then the price fell.

BTW brand new out of the box it had 1 hot blue pixel in the
main viewing area :-( Unit was swapped next day. The man
from HNs was not a happy chappie - 2 unpacks and 2 home
setups for one commission ;-)

Quote:
I'll be putting my money on the plasma horse.

I just have :-)

Cheers TT
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TT
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

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"Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in message

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At the end of the day LCD still has a long way to go, I
haven't not yet
seen an LCD that would convince me to invest in one,
bar
the 1080i
sharp.

That's the unit that made me decide to buy plasma ;-)
After
being told by everyone that this was *THE* LCD to have I
was
very disappointed. Why would anyone pay that much for
such
a small screen that has issues?

I work for Harvey Norman,

That's where I bought my Pioneer 50" from. I actually
had a
great deal - for about 3 weeks then the price fell.

BTW brand new out of the box it had 1 hot blue pixel in
the
main viewing area :-( Unit was swapped next day. The
man
from HNs was not a happy chappie - 2 unpacks and 2 home
setups for one commission ;-)

I'll be putting my money on the plasma horse.

I just have :-)

Cheers TT


Got a look at the new Pioneer PDP-506HD yesterday.

I already know ;-) I have answered your post in the other
forum ;-)

Looks like they haven't
Quote:
got a digital tuner in the box yet. :-( I would have
thought Pioneer would
have probably done a dual digital / analogue tuner for the
benefit of
country folk and of course those who watch Community
Access TV (ch31).
However according to the sales drone it now has HDMI (but
I thought the 505
had that too??? - could be wrong but then again I don't
own one.)


Yes it does. If it didn't I would not have bought it.

Quote:

Asking price was $7600 which isn't much down from the
r.r.p. but as the guy
said - "we can negotiate on that price....."

Cheers,
Alan


Ahhhhh so haven't changed your name here yet? BTW cut the
Simian references they're all mine :-))

Cheers TT
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TT
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

"Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
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Quote:

I know how the salesdroid would've felt, I don't mind
doing home setups
myself you can make great money on the side doing it :)
sometimes I
throw it in as a freebie just to close a sale. Other times
people just
like the idea that the person who served them will come
out and help
them to (even if they have to pay) Although I hate when
people
expect/demand it for free, as that's offensive, it's like
people don't
understand petrol costs money and outside of work we do
have a life. I
gotta balance work life and uni life, so my time is
valuable and
precious and worth every $$$. Sorry i'm ranting here.


The way I understood it was Pioneer Oz's idea that these
were set up as part of the deal.

So if the deal is "That is the price delivered and set up"
then that is what happens.

http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/home_entertainment/plasmadisplaypanel/pdp505hd/index.html

"Installation included

Our qualified installers will mount your plasma display in
the ideal location, either on a wall or on a table-top
stand. We can also customise your installation with surround
sound cabling or home theatre integration (at an additional
charge)."

You see I read the website *first* then did the deal :-)
The first time I enquired about price it was "Take my money
and then throw the Plasma in the back of the car". I was
also paranoid about a dead/hot pixel and as it turned out
quite rightly so.


Cheers TT
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Rod
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:30 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

Olfda Lertih wrote:

Quote:

The sharp I was saw impressive, hooked up to a Chinese HVD player,
picture was stunning. But at the price of $14k, it just wasn't worth
it. Even the best LCDtv's at the moment can only do 800:1 contrast, the
best plasmas are far ahead of that.

The RRP of the sharp is now $10,999 - you shoould be able to bargain

quite a bit on that.
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Olfda Lertih
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

Yer I know, when I first saw one it was $14k.

Cost on them is like $9-10k anyway, there's not very much demand for
them here as far as i've seen.

I myself have never had a single customer even interested in one.
Neither has the store even bothered to order one for display, very few
people are interested in paying $10k for an LCD, when you can have a
much nicer looking plasma for $5-6K granted its not true 1080i, but as
I said I haven't seen an LCD that looks as good as a plasma, yet.
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"Alan Rutlidge" <don't_spam_me_rutlidge@iinet.net.au> wrote
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"TT" <TTencerNOSPAM@westnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in message

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At the end of the day LCD still has a long way to go, I
haven't not yet
seen an LCD that would convince me to invest in one,
bar
the 1080i
sharp.

That's the unit that made me decide to buy plasma ;-)
After
being told by everyone that this was *THE* LCD to have I
was
very disappointed. Why would anyone pay that much for
such
a small screen that has issues?

I work for Harvey Norman,

That's where I bought my Pioneer 50" from. I actually
had a
great deal - for about 3 weeks then the price fell.

BTW brand new out of the box it had 1 hot blue pixel in
the
main viewing area :-( Unit was swapped next day. The
man
from HNs was not a happy chappie - 2 unpacks and 2 home
setups for one commission ;-)

I'll be putting my money on the plasma horse.

I just have :-)

Cheers TT


Got a look at the new Pioneer PDP-506HD yesterday.

I already know ;-) I have answered your post in the other
forum ;-)

Looks like they haven't
got a digital tuner in the box yet. :-( I would have
thought Pioneer would
have probably done a dual digital / analogue tuner for the
benefit of
country folk and of course those who watch Community
Access TV (ch31).
However according to the sales drone it now has HDMI (but
I thought the 505
had that too??? - could be wrong but then again I don't
own one.)

Yes it does. If it didn't I would not have bought it.


Asking price was $7600 which isn't much down from the
r.r.p. but as the guy
said - "we can negotiate on that price....."

Cheers,
Alan


Ahhhhh so haven't changed your name here yet? BTW cut the
Simian references they're all mine :-))

Cheers TT


Okay Grease Monkey, why should I change my posting name here? Okay, given
PA wouldn't be seen dead here I rather like being non-anonymous. That way
when I post on other NGs that's likely to attract PA's attention he won't
get confused about who he is going to be abusing.

Just for the record, I've been using various simian nicks on the internet
for years. Having been born in the year of the Monkey I have a divine claim
over ownership of my nicks, so there. :P :-)

Not wanting to push a point, but didn't you get given your nick by PA rather
than choosing it yourself?

Cheers,
Alan
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