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Olfda Lertih
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

I finally got to add my other dislike of LCD's.

The screens themselves. They seem for fragile, all it would take it a
little kid with a pencil, or sharp object or even playing with his toys
on the screen (like kids do) can easily damage the screens. I find the
membranes can be easily scratched and by god to they get dirty easily,
fingerprints are a bigger pain in the ass to clean off an LCD methinks.

Some lcds do come with a protective glass panel, but then this adds to
the glare issue.

The fact that some LCD's pump out shitloads of heat too, i've felt some
screens put out similar heat to plasmas, in the long term how good is
heat on lcd's?

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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

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At the end of the day LCD still has a long way to
go, I
haven't not yet
seen an LCD that would convince me to invest in one,
bar
the 1080i
sharp.

That's the unit that made me decide to buy plasma ;-)
After
being told by everyone that this was *THE* LCD to
have I
was
very disappointed. Why would anyone pay that much
for
such
a small screen that has issues?

I work for Harvey Norman,

That's where I bought my Pioneer 50" from. I
actually
had a
great deal - for about 3 weeks then the price fell.

BTW brand new out of the box it had 1 hot blue pixel
in
the
main viewing area :-( Unit was swapped next day.
The
man
from HNs was not a happy chappie - 2 unpacks and 2
home
setups for one commission ;-)

I'll be putting my money on the plasma horse.

I just have :-)

Cheers TT


Got a look at the new Pioneer PDP-506HD yesterday.

I already know ;-) I have answered your post in the
other
forum ;-)

Looks like they haven't
got a digital tuner in the box yet. :-( I would have
thought Pioneer would
have probably done a dual digital / analogue tuner for
the
benefit of
country folk and of course those who watch Community
Access TV (ch31).
However according to the sales drone it now has HDMI
(but
I thought the 505
had that too??? - could be wrong but then again I don't
own one.)

Yes it does. If it didn't I would not have bought it.


Asking price was $7600 which isn't much down from the
r.r.p. but as the guy
said - "we can negotiate on that price....."

Cheers,
Alan


Ahhhhh so haven't changed your name here yet? BTW cut
the
Simian references they're all mine :-))

Cheers TT


Okay Grease Monkey, why should I change my posting name
here? Okay, given
PA wouldn't be seen dead here I rather like being
non-anonymous. That way
when I post on other NGs that's likely to attract PA's
attention he won't
get confused about who he is going to be abusing.

Just for the record, I've been using various simian nicks
on the internet
for years. Having been born in the year of the Monkey I
have a divine claim
over ownership of my nicks, so there. :P :-)

Not wanting to push a point, but didn't you get given your
nick by PA rather
than choosing it yourself?

Cheers,
Alan

Truce! Wanna Banana? :-))


BTW If we are going to let PA chose our destinies then I was
born in the year of the "lying, secret agenda, Autistic"

Cheers Terry :-))
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Fred At Home
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

"Wolf" <Lxxs@xxx.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Need to make a decision soon and need advice

Q. Does plasma consume far more power compared tp LCD?

More yes. Far more? No

Quote:
Q. Has LCD overcome the "smear" during fast motion?

No, and there are bigger problems. The picture looks terrible and the blacks
are only dark grey even on the most expensive LCD panels.

Quote:
Q. Is there a definative answer to which system is best and why?
(generalising)
or a site that I can turn to.

No there is no definitive answer but I believe that a DLP RPTV is the best
value for money at the moment. Not quite the blacks of a CRT but the
"film-like" picture quality is fantastic. Far better than any plasma. The
only drawback is expensive lamp replacment every 6000 hours.
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Fred At Home
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

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"Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in
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At the end of the day LCD still has a long way to
go, I
haven't not yet
seen an LCD that would convince me to invest in one,
bar
the 1080i
sharp.

That's the unit that made me decide to buy plasma ;-)
After
being told by everyone that this was *THE* LCD to
have I
was
very disappointed. Why would anyone pay that much
for
such
a small screen that has issues?

I work for Harvey Norman,

That's where I bought my Pioneer 50" from. I
actually
had a
great deal - for about 3 weeks then the price fell.

BTW brand new out of the box it had 1 hot blue pixel
in
the
main viewing area :-( Unit was swapped next day.
The
man
from HNs was not a happy chappie - 2 unpacks and 2
home
setups for one commission ;-)

I'll be putting my money on the plasma horse.

I just have :-)

Cheers TT


Got a look at the new Pioneer PDP-506HD yesterday.

I already know ;-) I have answered your post in the
other
forum ;-)

Looks like they haven't
got a digital tuner in the box yet. :-( I would have
thought Pioneer would
have probably done a dual digital / analogue tuner for
the
benefit of
country folk and of course those who watch Community
Access TV (ch31).
However according to the sales drone it now has HDMI
(but
I thought the 505
had that too??? - could be wrong but then again I don't
own one.)

Yes it does. If it didn't I would not have bought it.


Asking price was $7600 which isn't much down from the
r.r.p. but as the guy
said - "we can negotiate on that price....."

Cheers,
Alan


Ahhhhh so haven't changed your name here yet? BTW cut
the
Simian references they're all mine :-))

Cheers TT


Okay Grease Monkey, why should I change my posting name
here? Okay, given
PA wouldn't be seen dead here I rather like being
non-anonymous. That way
when I post on other NGs that's likely to attract PA's
attention he won't
get confused about who he is going to be abusing.

Just for the record, I've been using various simian nicks
on the internet
for years. Having been born in the year of the Monkey I
have a divine claim
over ownership of my nicks, so there. :P :-)

Not wanting to push a point, but didn't you get given your
nick by PA rather
than choosing it yourself?

Cheers,
Alan

Truce! Wanna Banana? :-))

BTW If we are going to let PA chose our destinies then I was
born in the year of the "lying, secret agenda, Autistic"

Cheers Terry :-))


Just as I thought ;-)
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Fred At Home
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

"Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
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Quote:
I finally got to add my other dislike of LCD's.

The screens themselves. They seem for fragile, all it would take it a
little kid with a pencil, or sharp object or even playing with his toys
on the screen (like kids do) can easily damage the screens. I find the
membranes can be easily scratched and by god to they get dirty easily,
fingerprints are a bigger pain in the ass to clean off an LCD methinks.

Some lcds do come with a protective glass panel, but then this adds to
the glare issue.

The fact that some LCD's pump out shitloads of heat too, i've felt some
screens put out similar heat to plasmas, in the long term how good is
heat on lcd's?

What about the noise of a plasma screen? Listen to one in a quiet
environment. You may be surprised.
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John
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

Fred At Home wrote:
Quote:
"Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
news:1130584705.406208.240390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I finally got to add my other dislike of LCD's.

The screens themselves. They seem for fragile, all it would take it a
little kid with a pencil, or sharp object or even playing with his toys
on the screen (like kids do) can easily damage the screens. I find the
membranes can be easily scratched and by god to they get dirty easily,
fingerprints are a bigger pain in the ass to clean off an LCD methinks.

Some lcds do come with a protective glass panel, but then this adds to
the glare issue.

The fact that some LCD's pump out shitloads of heat too, i've felt some
screens put out similar heat to plasmas, in the long term how good is
heat on lcd's?

What about the noise of a plasma screen? Listen to one in a quiet
environment. You may be surprised.

They do make a HT whine, but it's quieter than a normal CRT TV.

If you put your ear close to the back of them, you can hear them
running, but it's a non issue from normal seating distance - again like
a normal TV.
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TT
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

"Fred At Home" <fredhome@fscans.cjb.net> wrote in message
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Not wanting to push a point, but didn't you get given
your
nick by PA rather
than choosing it yourself?

Cheers,
Alan

Truce! Wanna Banana? :-))

BTW If we are going to let PA chose our destinies then I
was
born in the year of the "lying, secret agenda, Autistic"

Cheers Terry :-))


Just as I thought ;-)


I can laugh at myself and I do not try to take everything

sooooo seriously all the time. As you are well discovering
these NGs are only places to discuss our passions about our
hobby it isn't like we are deciding the fate of the
Universe. I believe we *all* could lighten up a bit :-)

Cheers TT
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Olfda Lertih
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

Already have a plasma at home, can't hear it buzz unless I stand at the
back of it and put my ear to to it.
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Olfda Lertih
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

And don't forget for those who have a low flicker threshold, you'll see
DLP rainbows. DLP rear pro's and for that case any rear pro's still
have poor viewing angles and need a decent sized room, the best rptv's
for this though are the Sony Grand Wega's, but at the end of the day
why bother with RPTV? you may as well invest in a good front projector
for less money and have a far larger picture. Drawback though is you
need a proper room.


Overrall if you want the closest to CRT, a good plasma.

Simple if you want to hook your screen up to a PC for long periods or
you want a screen under 42", get an LCD. If you want good colour,
contrast and good value for money, etc get a Plasma.
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TT
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:32 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

"Olfda Lertih" <cmwmjt@netspace.net.au> wrote in message
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Quote:
And don't forget for those who have a low flicker
threshold, you'll see
DLP rainbows. DLP rear pro's and for that case any rear
pro's still
have poor viewing angles and need a decent sized room, the
best rptv's
for this though are the Sony Grand Wega's, but at the end
of the day
why bother with RPTV? you may as well invest in a good
front projector
for less money and have a far larger picture. Drawback
though is you
need a proper room.


Overrall if you want the closest to CRT, a good plasma.

Simple if you want to hook your screen up to a PC for long
periods or
you want a screen under 42", get an LCD. If you want good
colour,
contrast and good value for money, etc get a Plasma.


Yeah. What he said :-)

Or horses for courses if you prefer.

Cheers TT
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John
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

Olfda Lertih wrote:
Quote:
Already have a plasma at home, can't hear it buzz unless I stand at the
back of it and put my ear to to it.


Same.
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Forumadmin
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 5:30 am    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

LCD small.
Plasma large.

my 2

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SA000584
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

Pioneer are making record losses given the competition for their
plasmas.

Pioneer make the best plasmas going around but they cant sell enough of
them to make a buck due to the price competition out of China and for
some reason customers thinking LCD are the better buy.


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Olfda Lertih
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

Sorry have to disagree.

IMHO, the new Panasonics shit all over the Pioneers. My boss went and
saw the new Pioneer 50" at the unveiling and was not impressed out,
saying he thought he Philips & Panasonics were far better.

For that we had the 42" & 50" Philips and the 42" & 50" Pioneer sitting
next to eachother, and the Philips put them to shame.
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Olfda Lertih
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: plasma vs lcd Reply with quote

Other than the LG's & Humax, no one elses Plasmas have tuners inbuilt.
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