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Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:33 am Post subject:
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Hey,
I am currently doing some recording on my PC and have an Audigy 2496
right now. When I use distortion, the recorded sound sounds... 'OK'
but nothing great.
I'm looking at getting an Audiophile 2496. Do you think this will have
increase sound quality over the Audigy?
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:22 am Post subject:
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nah, same ballpark. the Audiophile 2496 has solid drivers and midi
response, but it's not "audiophile" like it's name implies. |
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject:
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I've moved from Audigy to Audiophile just over a week ago. Not much of
a difference in sound quality there, but it ended up solving a few
driver problems that I've been having for a long time with the Audigy
(I'm running Ubuntu), which was the objective.
| Quote: | When I use distortion, the recorded sound sounds... 'OK'
but nothing great.
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In my opinion, the sound quality of the Echo soundcards is more
impressive than either Audigy or Audiophile, but I suspect this is not
going to make the difference in sound that you are looking for. A lot
in getting the 'right' distorted guitar sound is achieved by recording
technique
rather than by equipment.
Is there a specific type of sound you're trying to achieve?
Perhaps the sound you're trying to get to is achieved by doubling the
guitars to make them sound fatter than live, have you tried this?
Try playing two versions with different equalization (for example one
with crisp high end and another with tight but fat bottom) so that
during mixdown you'll have a broad variety of choice in different
sounds by finding the balance between the sounds that works best.
In case of single-channel (mono) recording, be sure to pan both takes
in the same direction to prevent phasing surprises. In case of a
doubled stereo recording, be moderate on the panning (e.g. do not pan
the channels hard left/right) for best results.
Equalization afterwards can make a huge (and I mean HUGE) difference in
how things sound. Learn how to use a parametric equalizer if you don't
know how these work yet. Possibly the equalizer on your effects
processor is parametric.
Personally I've also had good results compressing the crap out of the
distortion guitar sound during mixdown.
Perhaps your guitar sound will be more impressive if it contains some
early reflections. What I personally use on my effects processor for
distortion sound is:
- distortion type: Grunge (whatever that means)
- Gain: 8 (it goes to 11, literally)
- equalizer:
Low gain: 5 dB
Mid freq: 750 Hz, -7 dB
High freq: 7000 Hz, +5 dB
- No chorus (I'll double the guitar if I want anything like this, thank
you)
- dual delay with delay times of 15ms/23 ms (deliberately relative
prime to each other), 1% feedback, level 67% in combination
- a short room reverb
I find this to give me a distortion sound which is pretty versatile.
Then again, I have no idea what you're aiming for. |
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Arny Krueger
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject:
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<kleinebre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In my opinion, the sound quality of the Echo soundcards
is more impressive than either Audigy or Audiophile, but
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You may be interested to know that both Echo and M-Audio
(Audiophile) buy their converters (sometimes closely related
part numbers) at the same AKM factory.
They differ in terms of I/O buffer chips and PCI interface
chips.
M-Audio has been very faithful to Via's Envy24 PCI interface
chips, while last I looked Echo still thought highly of TI.
M-Audio seems to do alot of chip progamming in their
drivers, while Echo seems to have had more preference for
hard wiring.
This is really just trivia, as in practice, it's all good. |
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Geoff@home
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:32 am Post subject:
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<bsshaya@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Hey,
I am currently doing some recording on my PC and have an Audigy 2496
right now. When I use distortion, the recorded sound sounds... 'OK'
but nothing great.
I'm looking at getting an Audiophile 2496. Do you think this will have
increase sound quality over the Audigy?
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Yes, but you mauy not notice.
geoff |
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Geoff@home
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 2:34 am Post subject:
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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | kleinebre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130607703.932217.9190@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
In my opinion, the sound quality of the Echo soundcards
is more impressive than either Audigy or Audiophile, but
You may be interested to know that both Echo and M-Audio (Audiophile) buy
their converters (sometimes closely related part numbers) at the same AKM
factory.
They differ in terms of I/O buffer chips and PCI interface chips.
M-Audio has been very faithful to Via's Envy24 PCI interface chips, while
last I looked Echo still thought highly of TI.
M-Audio seems to do alot of chip progamming in their drivers, while Echo
seems to have had more preference for hard wiring.
This is really just trivia, as in practice, it's all good.
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Doesn't the Audigy still do DSP dickery with the sound, resampling and all
that ?
geoff |
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Arny Krueger
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
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"Geoff@home" <geoff@nospam-paf.co.nz> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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kleinebre@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130607703.932217.9190@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
In my opinion, the sound quality of the Echo soundcards
is more impressive than either Audigy or Audiophile, but
You may be interested to know that both Echo and M-Audio
(Audiophile) buy their converters (sometimes closely
related part numbers) at the same AKM factory.
They differ in terms of I/O buffer chips and PCI
interface chips. M-Audio has been very faithful to Via's
Envy24 PCI
interface chips, while last I looked Echo still thought
highly of TI. M-Audio seems to do alot of chip
progamming in their
drivers, while Echo seems to have had more preference
for hard wiring. This is really just trivia, as in
practice, it's all
good.
Doesn't the Audigy still do DSP dickery with the sound,
resampling and all that ?
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True. Completely different topic. Audigy converters are not
in the same league as Echo and M-Audio, either. |
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Geoff@home
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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Doesn't the Audigy still do DSP dickery with the sound,
resampling and all that ?
True. Completely different topic. Audigy converters are not in the same
league as Echo and M-Audio, either.
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Completely the right topic then. The answer is that it will likely sound
better, and may even record his distortion better (without AD/SRC
artifiacts).
But given the pitch of the original question, I doubt that a soundcard
change will make the difference the original poster is looking for.
geoff |
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