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Gene Sweeny
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Basic/Idiots guides to sound Reply with quote

Arny Krueger wrote:
Quote:

Obviously Gene you're so immersed in paranoia and hatred
that you actually thinkthat you know all about what I did
and did not think of.

If you thought of it why didn't you post it and clear it up for good?

Quote:

In fact, I simply pointed out one example of an alternative
approach to the limited and questionable information in

http://members.cox.net/pasystem1/

Why post other peoples crap?
Instead, answer the question with the a correct and complete response.

OR. Don't respond at all.


Quote:
I also said:

"The short answer is that you don't have to get involved
with
bridging to run a sound system in mono. There are a number
of ways to run a sound system in mono. Which one is better
depends on your system and your preferences."

No, what's going on here Gene is that someone cited a source
that seems to be a bit lacking. Instead of dealing with the
flawed message in the cited reference, you've decided to
attack the messenger.

You ALSO said:

Quote:
You can drive both inputs of a stereo amp with
one mono output using a simple jumper cable, for example.

I've never heard a wye input cable called a jumper. A jumper is used
to daisy chan amps.

Let me ask you this Arny. Without going and looking it up in th next
10 minutes, what is the difference between an amp jumper cable and a
normal mic cable?

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Ralph Staub
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Basic/Idiots guides to sound Reply with quote

Arny Krueger wrote:

Quote:
Not at all. Just another case of the usual nit and
nose-picking that goes on around here.


Obviously Gene you're so immersed in paranoia and hatred
that you actually thinkthat you know all about what I did
and did not think of.

In fact, I simply pointed out one example of an alternative
approach to the limited and questionable information in

http://members.cox.net/pasystem1/

I also said:

"The short answer is that you don't have to get involved
with
bridging to run a sound system in mono. There are a number
of ways to run a sound system in mono. Which one is better
depends on your system and your preferences."

No, what's going on here Gene is that someone cited a source
that seems to be a bit lacking. Instead of dealing with the
flawed message in the cited reference, you've decided to
attack the messenger.

I can only imagine what would good would happen if useful
amounts of energy were put into fixing up the source.

Sorry for the previous blank post... mouse issues.

I viewed Arny's post, and while he was highly untechnical and used lots
of incorrect terminology, the content itself seemed somewhat correct. I
therefore chose not to confront him on the little stuff. Even an idiot
that drives straight through every traffic light he sees has a 50%
chance of being correct. There's plenty of opportunity to show Arny for
the imbecile he is. If you take Arny on for every single post, it gives
the appearance of being fueled by hate (as he describes) instead of his
propensity for distributing misinformation. This can give false
credibility BACK to Arny's misinformation, defeating your purpose.

Ralph
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Arny Krueger
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Basic/Idiots guides to sound Reply with quote

"Gene Sweeny" <goo1ween@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1130942668.039114.284850@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Quote:
Arny Krueger wrote:

Obviously Gene you're so immersed in paranoia and hatred
that you actually thinkthat you know all about what I did
and did not think of.

If you thought of it why didn't you post it and clear it
up for good?

A post can't fix a web site without the involvement of the
web site's owner.

Quote:
In fact, I simply pointed out one example of an
alternative approach to the limited and questionable
information in

http://members.cox.net/pasystem1/

Why post other peoples crap?

To document the problem.

Quote:
Instead, answer the question with the a correct and
complete response.

Why didn't you do that Gene, instead of trying to shoot the
messenger?

Quote:
OR. Don't respond at all.

Gene, that appears to be your preferred approach unless you
can use the situation in a negative way.

Quote:
I also said:

"The short answer is that you don't have to get involved
with
bridging to run a sound system in mono. There are a
number of ways to run a sound system in mono. Which one
is better depends on your system and your preferences."

No, what's going on here Gene is that someone cited a
source that seems to be a bit lacking. Instead of
dealing with the flawed message in the cited reference,
you've decided to attack the messenger.

You ALSO said:

You can drive both inputs of a stereo amp with
one mono output using a simple jumper cable, for example.

I've never heard a wye input cable called a jumper.

OK, if Gene Sweeny never heard of a word usage, its
automatically wrong. Horrible. The person who does it should
be made a bad example of.

Quote:
A jumper is used to daisy chan amps.

I never heard of "daisy chan".

Quote:
Let me ask you this Arny. Without going and looking it
up in th next 10 minutes, what is the difference between
an amp jumper cable and a normal mic cable?

Since the 10 minutes were up when I first saw the post,
there's no point in answering the question.
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Arny Krueger
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Basic/Idiots guides to sound Reply with quote

"Ralph Staub" <ralph@espsound.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
I viewed Arny's post, and while he was highly untechnical
and used lots of incorrect terminology, the content
itself seemed somewhat correct.

My post was mostly composed of a quote from the source.
Given the blind rage that Ralph seems to usually be in when
he responds to my posts, he probably confused what I wrote
with the errors in the text from the source.

To recap, the source said that to use a stereo mixer in a
mono system, you had to bridge the amps. I guess Ralph is
all right with this, because he still hasn't taken exception
to it.

Quote:
I therefore chose not to
confront him on the little stuff.

Thus Ralph washes his hands of dealing with the problems in
the source.

Quote:
Even an idiot that
drives straight through every traffic light he sees has a
50% chance of being correct.

Ralph has obviously never been on a road where the lights
are red more of the time than green. This is BTW true of
minor roads that mostly cross major roads. I guess Ralph
either only sticks to main roads or really doesn't think
very deeply about his driving experiences.

Quote:
There's plenty of
opportunity to show Arny for the imbecile he is.

There have been plenty of opportunities to demonstrate
Ralph's posturing and ignorance as well. Of course making a
life out of attacking someone else a pretty pathetic reason
to post, at least for a person that is not dominated by
paranoia and hatred.

Quote:
If you
take Arny on for every single post, it gives the
appearance of being fueled by hate (as he describes)
instead of his propensity for distributing
misinformation.

If you ignore posts by people other than me that contain or
reference erroneous information, then your name is Ralph
Staub, Bob Urz, etc., etc.

Quote:
This can give false credibility BACK to
Arny's misinformation, defeating your purpose.

Thanks Ralph for admitting that your purpose is to attack my
posts, but in accordance with what you think is a clever
strategy to avoid your attacks reflecting badly on you.
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Gene Sweeny
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Basic/Idiots guides to sound Reply with quote

Arny Krueger wrote:
Quote:
"Gene Sweeny" <goo1ween@yahoo.com> wrote in message

You ALSO said:

You can drive both inputs of a stereo amp with
one mono output using a simple jumper cable, for example.

I've never heard a wye input cable called a jumper.

OK, if Gene Sweeny never heard of a word usage, its
automatically wrong. Horrible. The person who does it should
be made a bad example of.

That's not the case at all. The situation is more like this... becuase
you have little to no connection with LIVE PROFESSIONAL sound you make
up words to use. Or you use what you *think* is correct. I will be
the first to admit, this example is a very very miniscule issue.
However, it's just one of many situaions where your lack of insight
and/or ignorance is so terribly obvious.


Quote:
A jumper is used to daisy chan amps.

I never heard of "daisy chan".

Neither have I. "chan" was a misspelling of "chain."


Quote:
Let me ask you this Arny. Without going and looking it
up in th next 10 minutes, what is the difference between
an amp jumper cable and a normal mic cable?

Since the 10 minutes were up when I first saw the post,
there's no point in answering the question.

Well, I guess you failed.
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Ralph Staub
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: Basic/Idiots guides to sound Reply with quote

Arny Krueger wrote:
Quote:
"Ralph Staub" <ralph@espsound.com> wrote in message
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This can give false credibility BACK to
Arny's misinformation, defeating your purpose.


Thanks Ralph for admitting that your purpose is to attack my
posts, but in accordance with what you think is a clever
strategy to avoid your attacks reflecting badly on you.

Thanks Arny for equating your "posts" with "misinformation".

Ralph
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Phildo
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Re: Basic/Idiots guides to sound Reply with quote

"Ron(UK)" <ron@lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Gene Sweeny wrote:
Arny Krueger wrote:

You can drive both inputs of a stereo amp with
one mono output using a simple jumper cable, for example.


A jumper?

You'll either need a wye cable or just flip the mode switch to parallel
if it has one on the back of the amp.

The sentence Arny quoted doesn`t make sense. Is it a stereo amp with one
mono output! I dont think so, and there would be no point in driving both
inputs if you only want one output. Or does it mean to jumper the outputs
together! Not recommended

Look at the title of the thread. Basic/Idiots guide to sound.


Given that Arny is basically an idiot did you really expect anything else
but nonsense from him?

Phildo
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Arny Krueger
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Basic/Idiots guides to sound Reply with quote

"Ralph Staub" <ralph@espsound.com> wrote in message
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<nothing of substance>

Thanks Ralph for agreeing with the author of
http://members.cox.net/pasystem1/ who says that the only way
to run a stereo PA system mono is to use a bridged amp.
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Ralph Staub
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Basic/Idiots guides to sound Reply with quote

Arny Krueger wrote:

Quote:
Thanks Ralph for agreeing with the author of
http://members.cox.net/pasystem1/ who says that the only way
to run a stereo PA system mono is to use a bridged amp.

Perhaps you missed it, Arny. You seem to have a capacity for "missing
it". I'll repost it for you...

***
I viewed Arny's post, and while he was highly untechnical and used lots
of incorrect terminology, the content itself seemed somewhat correct.
***

....I'm not agreeing with the moron who thinks you have to run a mono
system with bridged amps, I'm agreeing with the moron who doesn't
understand plain English.

Ralph
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Arny Krueger
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Basic/Idiots guides to sound Reply with quote

"Ralph Staub" <ralph@espsound.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Arny Krueger wrote:

Thanks Ralph for agreeing with the author of
http://members.cox.net/pasystem1/ who says that the only
way to run a stereo PA system mono is to use a bridged
amp.

Perhaps you missed it, Arny. You seem to have a capacity
for "missing it". I'll repost it for you...

***
I viewed Arny's post, and while he was highly untechnical
and used lots of incorrect terminology, the content
itself seemed somewhat correct. ***

...I'm not agreeing with the moron who thinks you have to
run a mono system with bridged amps, I'm agreeing with
the moron who doesn't understand plain English.

Sorry Ralph, when you go off like that, I tend to not read
the rest of your posts.
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Ralph Staub
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Basic/Idiots guides to sound Reply with quote

Arny Krueger wrote:

Quote:
Sorry Ralph, when you go off like that, I tend to not read
the rest of your posts.

It was the very first line, Arny.
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Arny Krueger
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Basic/Idiots guides to sound Reply with quote

"Ralph Staub" <ralph@espsound.com> wrote in message
news:NIqaf.4853$wb3.1252@trnddc03
Quote:
Arny Krueger wrote:

Sorry Ralph, when you go off like that, I tend to not
read the rest of your posts.

It was the very first line, Arny.

Can't read, can you Ralph?
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Ralph Staub
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Basic/Idiots guides to sound Reply with quote

Arny Krueger wrote:
Quote:
"Ralph Staub" <ralph@espsound.com> wrote in message
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Arny Krueger wrote:


Sorry Ralph, when you go off like that, I tend to not
read the rest of your posts.

It was the very first line, Arny.


Can't read, can you Ralph?


I stand corrected. It was the first line of substance. I can now see how...


***
Sorry for the previous blank post... mouse issues.
***

....would have upset you so greatly so as to dissuade you from reading
the next line. (not)

Ralph
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