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GregS
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject:
Re: Cramolin Electrical Contact Cleaner |
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In article <Y5t8f.187603$qY1.175591@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Paul Stamler" <pstamlerhell@pobox.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "GregS" <szekeres@pitt.edu> wrote in message
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Cramolin *was* made by the Caig corporation. I was told the switch to
DeoxIt
and PreservIt came, not because the chemicals in Cramolin were toxic
themselves, but because the process of making it was environmentally
unfriendly.
Many people perpeptuate this misinformation about its history.
I still have my dropper bottle of Cramolin. There is NO freon in it. Never
was.
Who said anything about Freon? The Caig guy said it had something to do with
production byproducts going into the river.
Peace,
Paul
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True, but
For the most part, if you search the archives, the typical thing you
will hear over and over and over is............................................
Because Cramolin contains Freon as the solvent, the manufacturer has had
to reformulate the product to avoid those claimed-to-be-evil CFCs. The
new product is DeoxIT D5.
Caig packaged it with Freon. They could have eliminated the freon. No,
the story goes they had to completely reformulate, because of the Freon.
The real story was, they chose to reformulate, because they wanted to.
They didn't want to pay for the orginal product, several times higher which also at
the time, contained some ingredient not friendly with the authorities. But
Caig didn't say the other company was willing, or was going to eliminate
that ingredient. They just separated.
Most all will say Caig made Cramolin. Completely false. They
imported it, and repackged it. Caig never had the name Cramolin in their ownership.
greg
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject:
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No, I don't think so. I heard that it wasn't just the Freon, it was a
solvent/ingredient in the Cramolin - could that be a reason for the
gumming of the Cramolin over time (reason we stopped using it). My old
bottle of red had lots of dye in it also - since thrown it out. The
Deoxit seems to have a smaller amount of dye. I also heard that the
CAIG guys wanted to develop new products that worked better without
environmental issues, and from my experiences the ProGold works even
better. I only use Deoxit if the connections have lots of oxidation or
connections are out doors.
....Mike
GregS wrote:
| Quote: | In article <Y5t8f.187603$qY1.175591@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Paul Stamler" <pstamlerhell@pobox.com> wrote:
"GregS" <szekeres@pitt.edu> wrote in message
news:djt7h4$c0s$2@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu...
Cramolin *was* made by the Caig corporation. I was told the switch to
DeoxIt
and PreservIt came, not because the chemicals in Cramolin were toxic
themselves, but because the process of making it was environmentally
unfriendly.
Many people perpeptuate this misinformation about its history.
I still have my dropper bottle of Cramolin. There is NO freon in it. Never
was.
Who said anything about Freon? The Caig guy said it had something to do with
production byproducts going into the river.
Peace,
Paul
True, but
For the most part, if you search the archives, the typical thing you
will hear over and over and over is............................................
Because Cramolin contains Freon as the solvent, the manufacturer has had
to reformulate the product to avoid those claimed-to-be-evil CFCs. The
new product is DeoxIT D5.
Caig packaged it with Freon. They could have eliminated the freon. No,
the story goes they had to completely reformulate, because of the Freon.
The real story was, they chose to reformulate, because they wanted to.
They didn't want to pay for the orginal product, several times higher which also at
the time, contained some ingredient not friendly with the authorities. But
Caig didn't say the other company was willing, or was going to eliminate
that ingredient. They just separated.
Most all will say Caig made Cramolin. Completely false. They
imported it, and repackged it. Caig never had the name Cramolin in their ownership.
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GregS
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:02 pm Post subject:
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In article <1130685446.302539.65850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, mkim54@aol.com wrote:
| Quote: | No, I don't think so. I heard that it wasn't just the Freon, it was a
solvent/ingredient in the Cramolin - could that be a reason for the
gumming of the Cramolin over time (reason we stopped using it). My old
bottle of red had lots of dye in it also - since thrown it out. The
Deoxit seems to have a smaller amount of dye. I also heard that the
CAIG guys wanted to develop new products that worked better without
environmental issues, and from my experiences the ProGold works even
better. I only use Deoxit if the connections have lots of oxidation or
connections are out doors.
....Mike
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I mentioned the ingredient somewhere along the line which the German company stopped using right
after that eppisode I had the opposite experiance. Less dye in the old 100% Cramolin, and lots of
dye in the new 100% liquid, not the 5 % DeOxit. And, the needle bottle shows no signs of gumming.
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 2:26 am Post subject:
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"GregS" <szekeres@pitt.edu> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In article <1130685446.302539.65850@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
mkim54@aol.com wrote:
No, I don't think so. I heard that it wasn't just the Freon, it was a
solvent/ingredient in the Cramolin - could that be a reason for the
gumming of the Cramolin over time (reason we stopped using it). My old
bottle of red had lots of dye in it also - since thrown it out. The
Deoxit seems to have a smaller amount of dye. I also heard that the
CAIG guys wanted to develop new products that worked better without
environmental issues, and from my experiences the ProGold works even
better. I only use Deoxit if the connections have lots of oxidation or
connections are out doors.
....Mike
I mentioned the ingredient somewhere along the line which the German
company stopped using right
after that eppisode I had the opposite experiance. Less dye in the old
100% Cramolin, and lots of
dye in the new 100% liquid, not the 5 % DeOxit. And, the needle bottle
shows no signs of gumming.
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Where I used to work we used Cramolin to protect silver contacts. We had to
ask Caig to make a special formulation for applications where the insulation
resistance had to remain above 10^18 ohms. It was blue instead of red, and
they called it Cramolin Special. Switch wafers that needed this resistance
were also special, made from a chloroflourocarbon material called Kel-F.
Maintaining high insulation resistance in the presence of high humidity is a
subject of importance in itself!
Norm Strong |
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