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Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
Lifetime "subscription" need constant phone connection? |
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If I get a RTV with lifetime subscription, do I have to have it connected
to a phone line all the time, or just when I 1st activate it?
BTW, how does RTV get it's prog. guide info, over the phone line or
cable/sat.?
I don't care about the guide, and would probably leave it off to avoid
future evil like TiVo has perpetrated by auto-upgrading people's units
without permission, then using new "upgrade" capability to delete things
off their drives (they claim this was an "error", but will certainly be
used in the future either way).
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BruceR
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
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The guide is updated via phone or ethernet connection. If you don't care
about the guide you can leave it unplugged.
From:see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid
see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid
| Quote: | If I get a RTV with lifetime subscription, do I have to have it
connected to a phone line all the time, or just when I 1st activate
it?
BTW, how does RTV get it's prog. guide info, over the phone line or
cable/sat.?
I don't care about the guide, and would probably leave it off to avoid
future evil like TiVo has perpetrated by auto-upgrading people's units
without permission, then using new "upgrade" capability to delete
things off their drives (they claim this was an "error", but will
certainly be used in the future either way).
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John in Detroit
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
Re: Lifetime "subscription" need constant phone connection? |
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I will answer question 2: How does it get it's program guide
Two ways.. Method 1: Over the phone line
Method 2: Over the internet if it can
So, to answer question 1: If it can be connected to a router connected
to either a cable modem or DSL, no you don't need to hook it up to a
phone line... EVER
IF it can not be so connected... Yes it will need a connection every
night,,, When using dial up it usually tries for something like 3am
Will a lifetime subscribed uint work w/o regular calls home?
Good question, Haven't a clue
see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid wrote:
| Quote: | If I get a RTV with lifetime subscription, do I have to have it connected
to a phone line all the time, or just when I 1st activate it?
BTW, how does RTV get it's prog. guide info, over the phone line or
cable/sat.?
I don't care about the guide, and would probably leave it off to avoid
future evil like TiVo has perpetrated by auto-upgrading people's units
without permission, then using new "upgrade" capability to delete things
off their drives (they claim this was an "error", but will certainly be
used in the future either way).
--
_____________________________________________________
For email response, or CC, please mailto:see.my.sig.4.addr(at)bigfoot.com.
Yeah, it's really a real address :)
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ST
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject:
Re: Lifetime "subscription" need constant phone connection? |
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see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid wrote:
| Quote: | I don't care about the guide, and would probably leave it off to avoid
future evil like TiVo has perpetrated by auto-upgrading people's units
without permission, then using new "upgrade" capability to delete things
off their drives (they claim this was an "error", but will certainly be
used in the future either way).
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No need to worry, for two reasons:
One: we've had Replays for years, and they haven't removed anything, let
alone th things they were sued for - commerical advance and internet
sharing. They did the right thing by introducing a new model with less
features, instead of castrating existing models.
Two: even if they did, you could reimage your hard drive to whatever
software version you want. |
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General Kireiko
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:16 pm Post subject:
Re: Lifetime "subscription" need constant phone connection? |
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John in Detroit <Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
:> Will a lifetime subscribed uint work w/o regular calls home?
: Good question, Haven't a clue
No. It needs to connect to the mothership to:
1. Set the clock. It will drift otherwise.
2. Verify subscription.
-Doug
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Mark Lloyd
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject:
Re: Lifetime "subscription" need constant phone connection? |
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On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:49:35 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I will answer question 2: How does it get it's program guide
Two ways.. Method 1: Over the phone line
Method 2: Over the internet if it can
So, to answer question 1: If it can be connected to a router connected
to either a cable modem or DSL, no you don't need to hook it up to a
phone line... EVER
IF it can not be so connected... Yes it will need a connection every
night,,, When using dial up it usually tries for something like 3am
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It doesn't NEED a connection EVERY NIGHT. It just tries to make one
that often. Connecting once a week should be enough.
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Will a lifetime subscribed uint work w/o regular calls home?
Good question, Haven't a clue
see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid wrote:
If I get a RTV with lifetime subscription, do I have to have it connected
to a phone line all the time, or just when I 1st activate it?
BTW, how does RTV get it's prog. guide info, over the phone line or
cable/sat.?
I don't care about the guide, and would probably leave it off to avoid
future evil like TiVo has perpetrated by auto-upgrading people's units
without permission, then using new "upgrade" capability to delete things
off their drives (they claim this was an "error", but will certainly be
used in the future either way).
--
_____________________________________________________
For email response, or CC, please mailto:see.my.sig.4.addr(at)bigfoot.com.
Yeah, it's really a real address :)
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58 days until the winter solstice celebration
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam." |
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John in Detroit
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:57 pm Post subject:
Re: Lifetime "subscription" need constant phone connection? |
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I answered the question as to how it gets it's guide
Either over a phone line, or via the internet if it's connected to a lan
with broadband, I use the lan method myself
Mark Lloyd wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:49:35 GMT, John in Detroit
Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I will answer question 2: How does it get it's program guide
Two ways.. Method 1: Over the phone line
Method 2: Over the internet if it can
So, to answer question 1: If it can be connected to a router connected
to either a cable modem or DSL, no you don't need to hook it up to a
phone line... EVER
IF it can not be so connected... Yes it will need a connection every
night,,, When using dial up it usually tries for something like 3am
It doesn't NEED a connection EVERY NIGHT. It just tries to make one
that often. Connecting once a week should be enough.
Will a lifetime subscribed uint work w/o regular calls home?
Good question, Haven't a clue
see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid wrote:
If I get a RTV with lifetime subscription, do I have to have it connected
to a phone line all the time, or just when I 1st activate it?
BTW, how does RTV get it's prog. guide info, over the phone line or
cable/sat.?
I don't care about the guide, and would probably leave it off to avoid
future evil like TiVo has perpetrated by auto-upgrading people's units
without permission, then using new "upgrade" capability to delete things
off their drives (they claim this was an "error", but will certainly be
used in the future either way).
--
_____________________________________________________
For email response, or CC, please mailto:see.my.sig.4.addr(at)bigfoot.com.
Yeah, it's really a real address :)
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"Nothing adds excitement like something that is none of your business"
Diabetic? http://community.compuserve.com/diabetes |
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Mark Lloyd
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 8:04 pm Post subject:
Re: Lifetime "subscription" need constant phone connection? |
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 12:57:34 GMT, John in Detroit
<Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
| Quote: | I answered the question as to how it gets it's guide
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Looks like you're replying to the wrong person. I didn't ask that. I
just said it doesn't have to connect more than once a week.
| Quote: | Either over a phone line, or via the internet if it's connected to a lan
with broadband, I use the lan method myself
Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 00:49:35 GMT, John in Detroit
Blanked@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I will answer question 2: How does it get it's program guide
Two ways.. Method 1: Over the phone line
Method 2: Over the internet if it can
So, to answer question 1: If it can be connected to a router connected
to either a cable modem or DSL, no you don't need to hook it up to a
phone line... EVER
IF it can not be so connected... Yes it will need a connection every
night,,, When using dial up it usually tries for something like 3am
It doesn't NEED a connection EVERY NIGHT. It just tries to make one
that often. Connecting once a week should be enough.
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Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam." |
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Korbin Dallas
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:09 am Post subject:
Re: Lifetime "subscription" need constant phone connection? |
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:45:16 -0700, see.my.sig.4.addr wrote:
| Quote: | If I get a RTV with lifetime subscription, do I have to have it connected
to a phone line all the time, or just when I 1st activate it?
BTW, how does RTV get it's prog. guide info, over the phone line or
cable/sat.?
I don't care about the guide, and would probably leave it off to avoid
future evil like TiVo has perpetrated by auto-upgrading people's units
without permission, then using new "upgrade" capability to delete things
off their drives (they claim this was an "error", but will certainly be
used in the future either way).
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No Guide = No Record.
Since you have a lifetime subscription just hook it and and forget about
it.
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Korbin Dallas
The name was changed to protect the guilty. |
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Mark Lloyd
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Lifetime "subscription" need constant phone connection? |
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On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 23:09:42 GMT, Korbin Dallas
<korbindallas@dodgeit.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:45:16 -0700, see.my.sig.4.addr wrote:
If I get a RTV with lifetime subscription, do I have to have it connected
to a phone line all the time, or just when I 1st activate it?
BTW, how does RTV get it's prog. guide info, over the phone line or
cable/sat.?
I don't care about the guide, and would probably leave it off to avoid
future evil like TiVo has perpetrated by auto-upgrading people's units
without permission, then using new "upgrade" capability to delete things
off their drives (they claim this was an "error", but will certainly be
used in the future either way).
No Guide = No Record.
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Except manual recording.
| Quote: | Since you have a lifetime subscription just hook it and and forget about
it.
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57 days until the winter solstice celebration
Mark Lloyd
has a Replay 5xxx
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com
"The idea that there is an invisible being who
created and still runs this old universe is so
childish, so obviously contrived, that it is hard to
believe anyone with even a modicum of education can
still fall for that scam." |
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Danny Hobbs
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:41 am Post subject:
Re: Lifetime "subscription" need constant phone connection? |
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news:7qn2m19vjhcb2o5mcqfj6a756f4mol0gel@4ax.com...
| Quote: | If I get a RTV with lifetime subscription, do I have to have it connected
to a phone line all the time, or just when I 1st activate it?
BTW, how does RTV get it's prog. guide info, over the phone line or
cable/sat.?
I don't care about the guide, and would probably leave it off to avoid
future evil like TiVo has perpetrated by auto-upgrading people's units
without permission, then using new "upgrade" capability to delete things
off their drives (they claim this was an "error", but will certainly be
used in the future either way).
Although new to the RTV world, I have read about software you run on the |
computer to make the Replay think it is getting the guide from the
"Mothership". You get the guide from another Internet Site and don't have
the need to connect anymore. Or so I have read, I have no need to try it out
so I can't verify everything.
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:42 pm Post subject:
Re: Lifetime "subscription" need constant phone connection? |
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:51:02 -0500, "Tony D." <nopam@nospam.com>
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| Quote: | Wirns allows you to set up your own custom guide. It also allows you to
prevent software updates. You still have to connect to Replay to update
the clock and verify activation periodically, even for lifetime units.
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This is really a pain in the ass with RTVs in general. When your power
is off the RTV (45xxs anyway) default to "your clock is not set" or
words to that effect and there is NOTHING the unit will do until you
get a good connection to the RTV server. You can't even get to the set
up menu to change over to phone/modem so you can dial in. My power was
out from Wilma for part of a day but my RTV was a doorstop for almost
a week because the cable was out. If you look at similar queries on
AVS forum they don't have a workaround. DNNA admits it is a software
problem but they are not willing to fix it, It will be a <paying> guy
working on this glitch who figures out how to ditch the RTV server all
together. As far as I am concerned RTV owes me a weeks activation
(plus the week I lost with Charley last year). |
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:38 pm Post subject:
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On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:13:52 -0500, "Tony D." <nopam@nospam.com>
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| Quote: | It will be a <paying> guy
working on this glitch who figures out how to ditch the RTV server all
together. As far as I am concerned RTV owes me a weeks activation
(plus the week I lost with Charley last year).
WIRNS can already do this except for activation verification.
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This IS activation verification. Otherwise, why would they doorstop a
machine that has only lost it's clock?
BTW this machine has acted this way since it was new. Maybe it always
had a bad battery but I bet it is not that. |
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Tony D.
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:51 am Post subject:
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Although new to the RTV world, I have read about software you run on the
computer to make the Replay think it is getting the guide from the
"Mothership". You get the guide from another Internet Site and don't have
the need to connect anymore. Or so I have read, I have no need to try it out
so I can't verify everything.
Wirns allows you to set up your own custom guide. It also allows you to |
prevent software updates. You still have to connect to Replay to update
the clock and verify activation periodically, even for lifetime units. |
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Tony D.
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 3:13 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | This is really a pain in the ass with RTVs in general. When your power
is off the RTV (45xxs anyway) default to "your clock is not set" or
words to that effect and there is NOTHING the unit will do until you
get a good connection to the RTV server.
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Sounds like the battery on the mb must be bad. 5ks can be off for
days/weeks with no problem.
| Quote: | You can't even get to the set
up menu to change over to phone/modem so you can dial in. My power was
out from Wilma for part of a day but my RTV was a doorstop for almost
a week because the cable was out. If you look at similar queries on
AVS forum they don't have a workaround. DNNA admits it is a software
problem but they are not willing to fix it,
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GM doesn't "fix" '99 Pontiacs either. It is extinct.
| Quote: | It will be a <paying> guy
working on this glitch who figures out how to ditch the RTV server all
together. As far as I am concerned RTV owes me a weeks activation
(plus the week I lost with Charley last year).
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WIRNS can already do this except for activation verification. |
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