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Rôgêr
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
Crawling text |
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Okay, sorry for reposting, but I waited over a day. Surely some pro out
there has an idea for a good text crawler, but one that's flexible. This
isn't for an CBS sized operation, but a pretty good sized cable
operation for local/regional use. Any suggestions appreciated.
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nobody special
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
Re: Crawling text |
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| Scala, or the super-duper version of inscriber? |
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Rôgêr
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:01 am Post subject:
Re: Crawling text |
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nobody special wrote:
| Quote: | Scala, or the super-duper version of inscriber?
Thanks for the leads, will check them out. While Googling for Scala |
articles, came across http://dv411.com/infonettvinfo.html the product
being Audience. Any idea if they're legit or quality? |
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blackburst@aol.com
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:01 pm Post subject:
Re: Crawling text |
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Rôgêr wrote:
| Quote: | Okay, sorry for reposting, but I waited over a day. Surely some pro out
there has an idea for a good text crawler, but one that's flexible. This
isn't for an CBS sized operation, but a pretty good sized cable
operation for local/regional use. Any suggestions appreciated.
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Are you talking about a production CG (keyed over video) or a
bulletin-board CG?
For production CGs, other posters mentioned Inscriber or Compix,
currently made. You can get lots of older cheapies: Quanta Microgen,
Quanta Q-5 and others. Or some rinky-dink Amiga-Commodore setup. Or
even the super cheap Videonics units.
For bulletin boards, Scala was mentioned. There are also old
TexScan/CompuVids that can do "regions", including crawls.
If you're interested, we have an old Chyron that will do a bug and
crawl, but we want 20k for it. |
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nobody special
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Crawling text |
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"If you're interested, we have an old Chyron that will do a bug and
crawl, but we want 20k for it. "
I don't think he's on the military pricing schedule. or did you mean
pesos?;-)
(has a VP-2 and length of RG keeping the bass boat parked over the
"good spot") |
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Rôgêr
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Sat Oct 29, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Crawling text |
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blackburst@aol.com wrote:
| Quote: | Rôgêr wrote:
Okay, sorry for reposting, but I waited over a day. Surely some pro out
there has an idea for a good text crawler, but one that's flexible. This
isn't for an CBS sized operation, but a pretty good sized cable
operation for local/regional use. Any suggestions appreciated.
Are you talking about a production CG (keyed over video) or a
bulletin-board CG?
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Keyed over video
| Quote: | For production CGs, other posters mentioned Inscriber or Compix,
currently made.
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They're already using some cheapie, which since it probably cost several
hundred dollars they think it's high-end, just a little limited. It's a
Display Systems International or DSI.
| Quote: | You can get lots of older cheapies: Quanta Microgen,
Quanta Q-5 and others. Or some rinky-dink Amiga-Commodore setup. Or
even the super cheap Videonics units.
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They're wanting to upgrade. We've got a Videonics somewhere in a box in
a closet.
| Quote: | For bulletin boards, Scala was mentioned. There are also old
TexScan/CompuVids that can do "regions", including crawls.
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We use Powerpoint for our bulletin boards, they're using something awful
that came with their Soloist MPEG Video Server. When I say we, we is a
company that has a leased channel on their cable system.
| Quote: | If you're interested, we have an old Chyron that will do a bug and
crawl, but we want 20k for it.
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20k? Thanks, we'll mull it over.
Actually I do appreciate the input, we've been running another leased
station on another cable system for several years that is still 50-75%
analog and have gotten pretty good at it. This cable system is trying to
be all digital, but they may not understand all the implications
sometimes. I know I don't, and they come to me to ask questions. |
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blackburst@aol.com
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Crawling text |
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Rôgêr wrote:
| Quote: | blackburst@aol.com wrote:
Rôgêr wrote:
Okay, sorry for reposting, but I waited over a day. Surely some pro out
there has an idea for a good text crawler, but one that's flexible. This
isn't for an CBS sized operation, but a pretty good sized cable
operation for local/regional use. Any suggestions appreciated.
Are you talking about a production CG (keyed over video) or a
bulletin-board CG?
Keyed over video
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OK, now I'm clear on that.
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For production CGs, other posters mentioned Inscriber or Compix,
currently made.
They're already using some cheapie, which since it probably cost several
hundred dollars they think it's high-end, just a little limited. It's a
Display Systems International or DSI.
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There aren't cheapies. They're both PC-based, but very versatile and
slick. Compix will set you back about 4k stem to stern, Inscriber about
6k. Given your situation, I'd check these out.
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You can get lots of older cheapies: Quanta Microgen,
Quanta Q-5 and others. Or some rinky-dink Amiga-Commodore setup. Or
even the super cheap Videonics units.
They're wanting to upgrade. We've got a Videonics somewhere in a box in
a closet.
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Now THAT'S a piece of crap. I had to use one when my Alphagen Magic Box
died. Limited pages, volatile memory. Kee-ripes. Ended up with Scala.
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For bulletin boards, Scala was mentioned. There are also old
TexScan/CompuVids that can do "regions", including crawls.
We use Powerpoint for our bulletin boards, they're using something awful
that came with their Soloist MPEG Video Server. When I say we, we is a
company that has a leased channel on their cable system.
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You should consider Scala for a bulletin board. All kinds of
versatility, very stable. You can easily scan and import local JPGs,
GIFs, animations, etc. Unlimited pages. Killer fonts.
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If you're interested, we have an old Chyron that will do a bug and
crawl, but we want 20k for it.
20k? Thanks, we'll mull it over.
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See above. A great CG, but too much for your purposes.
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Actually I do appreciate the input, we've been running another leased
station on another cable system for several years that is still 50-75%
analog and have gotten pretty good at it. This cable system is trying to
be all digital, but they may not understand all the implications
sometimes. I know I don't, and they come to me to ask questions.
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A cable system trying to be digital? That's a first. Comcast prides
themselves on digital, but I asked about feeding them digitally and
they laughed and pointed to their antique analog mono RF (AM) Cadco. |
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blackburst@aol.com
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
Re: Crawling text |
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nobody special wrote:
| Quote: | "If you're interested, we have an old Chyron that will do a bug and
crawl, but we want 20k for it. "
I don't think he's on the military pricing schedule. or did you mean
pesos?;-)
(has a VP-2 and length of RG keeping the bass boat parked over the
"good spot")
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At my part-time job at a news network, this baby used to work
essentially 24/7 doing a bug and news crawl, but we upgraded. So now it
sits on a shelf in the shop.
It's a Chyron, but I need to check the model. Definitely not a VP2,
which I have in my remote truck! This is a top-drawer CG, but I only
mentioned it because WE used it as a master control overlay, and
because I asked about buying it a few months ago. This is no toy! |
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Rôgêr
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Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:20 am Post subject:
Re: Crawling text |
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blackburst@aol.com wrote:
| Quote: | Rôgêr wrote:
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Actually I do appreciate the input, we've been running another leased
station on another cable system for several years that is still 50-75%
analog and have gotten pretty good at it. This cable system is trying to
be all digital, but they may not understand all the implications
sometimes. I know I don't, and they come to me to ask questions.
A cable system trying to be digital? That's a first. Comcast prides
themselves on digital, but I asked about feeding them digitally and
they laughed and pointed to their antique analog mono RF (AM) Cadco.
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This cable system is pretty serious into digital. But sometimes there
seems to be, shall we say, holes in their knowledge. They have fiber to
the home and seem to do very well with it, offering voice, cable video
and internet access. They're taking customers away like crazy from
Charter. This company is a pioneer in the industry but sometimes they
ask questions that seem almost beginner like. It's probably just a lack
of people inside the company not knowing which other person to talk to
already inside the company. |
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