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hank alrich
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:34 pm Post subject:
Re: SPL bylaws |
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Jay Kadis wrote:
| Quote: | Pat wrote:
Being completely tired of the trolls, I thought I'd start a thread about
live sound.
I've been stage managing some shows, outdoor stage, where the SPL limit
is 100dB at 100 feet.
What's the regulation where you live?
Alameda County (California) has a new ordinance: if anyone complains it's
to loud by definition, no questions asked. The county sheriffs were
apparently having too much trouble working sound level meters. It applies
to all noise, including power tools and barking dogs. So much for
rehearsing in the garage if you have cranky neighbors.
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And that's hwo it's been here in the northern Sierra Nevada boonies
forever, as far as I can tell. Law doesn't even _have_ SPL meters. One
idiot with a crab in their shorts is all it takes to make a mess of
things. We have had one deupty tell a complainer they were way out of
bounds, which was pleasant, but most aren't willing to go against the
word of the law in support of its intent.
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ha
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Bob Cap
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:41 pm Post subject:
Re: SPL bylaws |
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| Ah, the land of the free.... |
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Joe Kotroczo
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Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:11 pm Post subject:
Re: WAY OT!! |
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On 27/10/05 12:22, in article Zeqdna6Py5zCN_3eRVn-hQ@comcast.com, "Robert
McTigue" <robertmctigue@comcast.net> wrote:
(...)
| Quote: | motorcycles must have a 100% stock exhaust system or its automatically
illegal.... even if the engine is off.
Where would that be? DOT should be fine on any exhaust?
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What is DOT?
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Joe Kotroczo kotroczo@mac.com |
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TimPerry
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:33 am Post subject:
Re: WAY OT!! |
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"Joe Kotroczo" <kotroczo@mac.com> wrote in message
news:1130436796.f6f5a73b8dfd7f2ce05e51659ff63a23@teranews...
| Quote: | On 27/10/05 12:22, in article Zeqdna6Py5zCN_3eRVn-hQ@comcast.com, "Robert
McTigue" <robertmctigue@comcast.net> wrote:
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motorcycles must have a 100% stock exhaust system or its automatically
illegal.... even if the engine is off.
Where would that be? DOT should be fine on any exhaust?
What is DOT?
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Joe Kotroczo kotroczo@mac.com
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Department Of Transportation. (or Drag Out the Tar) |
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Joe Kotroczo
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:58 am Post subject:
Re: WAY OT!! |
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On 27/10/05 21:33, in article paCdnSfLqstatvzenZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@adelphia.com,
"TimPerry" <timperry@noaspamadelphia.net> wrote:
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motorcycles must have a 100% stock exhaust system or its automatically
illegal.... even if the engine is off.
Where would that be? DOT should be fine on any exhaust?
What is DOT?
Department Of Transportation. (or Drag Out the Tar)
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Still don't get it, but let me guess: it is something valid and applicable
only for or within the US of A, and therefor more or less insignificant for
the rest of the world?
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Joe Kotroczo kotroczo@mac.com |
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George Gleason
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:00 am Post subject:
Re: WAY OT!! |
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Joe Kotroczo <kotroczo@mac.com> wrote in
news:1130446731.75c4104860bfe179300eff3539fccf6d@teranews:
| Quote: | On 27/10/05 21:33, in article
paCdnSfLqstatvzenZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@adelphia.com, "TimPerry"
timperry@noaspamadelphia.net> wrote:
(...)
motorcycles must have a 100% stock exhaust system or its
automatically illegal.... even if the engine is off.
Where would that be? DOT should be fine on any exhaust?
What is DOT?
Department Of Transportation. (or Drag Out the Tar)
Still don't get it, but let me guess: it is something valid and
applicable only for or within the US of A, and therefor more or less
insignificant for the rest of the world?
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he is talking local law, doesn't even apply in the next county over
george |
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George Gleason
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:00 am Post subject:
Re: WAY OT!! |
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Joe Kotroczo <kotroczo@mac.com> wrote in
news:1130446731.75c4104860bfe179300eff3539fccf6d@teranews:
| Quote: | On 27/10/05 21:33, in article
paCdnSfLqstatvzenZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@adelphia.com, "TimPerry"
timperry@noaspamadelphia.net> wrote:
(...)
motorcycles must have a 100% stock exhaust system or its
automatically illegal.... even if the engine is off.
Where would that be? DOT should be fine on any exhaust?
What is DOT?
Department Of Transportation. (or Drag Out the Tar)
Still don't get it, but let me guess: it is something valid and
applicable only for or within the US of A, and therefor more or less
insignificant for the rest of the world?
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he is talking local law, doesn't even apply in the next county over
george |
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Robert McTigue
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:27 am Post subject:
Re: motercycle noise |
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TimPerry wrote:
| Quote: | "Robert McTigue" <robertmctigue@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Zeqdna6Py5zCN_3eRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
TimPerry wrote:
"Pat" <not@bloody.likely> wrote in message
news:not-36AB9D.23595526102005@news.isp.giganews.com...
Being completely tired of the trolls, I thought I'd start a thread about
live sound.
I've been stage managing some shows, outdoor stage, where the SPL limit
is 100dB at 100 feet.
What's the regulation where you live?
motorcycles must have a 100% stock exhaust system or its automatically
illegal.... even if the engine is off.
Where would that be? DOT should be fine on any exhaust?
i did a series of show this summer with bands and classic car "cruze ins".
the show was in a shopping center parking lot. it became quit popular as it
had been running weekly in the summertime for several years. some weeks we
has 200 to 300 cars. apparently a neighbor (with political clout) took
offence at the activities. as the parking lot is private property the
enforcement is limited but once on public roads it became "open season" on
the cars and bikes.
the local PD showed up weekly with 6 units and began handing out equipment
violation tickets en mass.
this city decided that it didn't need to mess with SPL meters. it just
passed an ordinance that any exhaust system that is not stock is illegal.
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How does that work if you made the bike?
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Touched by his Noodly Appendage |
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Robert McTigue
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:30 am Post subject:
Re: WAY OT!! |
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Joe Kotroczo wrote:
| Quote: | On 27/10/05 12:22, in article Zeqdna6Py5zCN_3eRVn-hQ@comcast.com, "Robert
McTigue" <robertmctigue@comcast.net> wrote:
(...)
motorcycles must have a 100% stock exhaust system or its automatically
illegal.... even if the engine is off.
Where would that be? DOT should be fine on any exhaust?
What is DOT?
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Department Of Transportation set standards for motor vehicles. If its
DOT compliant then you should be able to use it on the street .....
--
Touched by his Noodly Appendage |
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George Gleason
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:31 am Post subject:
Re: motercycle noise |
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Robert McTigue <robertmctigue@comcast.net> wrote in
news:IbGdnf1fj8L2yfzeRVn-vA@comcast.com:
| Quote: | TimPerry wrote:
"Robert McTigue" <robertmctigue@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Zeqdna6Py5zCN_3eRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
TimPerry wrote:
"Pat" <not@bloody.likely> wrote in message
news:not-36AB9D.23595526102005@news.isp.giganews.com...
Being completely tired of the trolls, I thought I'd start a thread
about live sound.
I've been stage managing some shows, outdoor stage, where the SPL
limit is 100dB at 100 feet.
What's the regulation where you live?
motorcycles must have a 100% stock exhaust system or its
automatically illegal.... even if the engine is off.
Where would that be? DOT should be fine on any exhaust?
i did a series of show this summer with bands and classic car "cruze
ins". the show was in a shopping center parking lot. it became quit
popular as it had been running weekly in the summertime for several
years. some weeks we has 200 to 300 cars. apparently a neighbor (with
political clout) took offence at the activities. as the parking lot
is private property the enforcement is limited but once on public
roads it became "open season" on the cars and bikes.
the local PD showed up weekly with 6 units and began handing out
equipment violation tickets en mass.
this city decided that it didn't need to mess with SPL meters. it
just passed an ordinance that any exhaust system that is not stock is
illegal.
How does that work if you made the bike?
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you need to get a dot certificate before you get VIN(vehical id numbers)
that are needed to register it
this applys to home made trailers and modified vehicals(think school bus
turned into a RV)
George |
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TimPerry
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:33 am Post subject:
Re: WAY OT!! |
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he is talking local law, doesn't even apply in the next county over
george
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far as i know ALL noise ordnances are local (in the US) I don't know of any
state that has any. (except maybe pertaining to aircraft sonic booms)
only issue i have run into was a show at the harness racing track. (but
that's not the city i live in) it was a dismal venue compared to the park.
mostly places around here are pretty "free and easy" after all the original
Woodstock farm isn't far away and Woodstock 2000 was just up the road at the
air force base. |
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Bob Quintal
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:41 am Post subject:
Re: FUK OFF ERRS TROLL !!!!! |
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"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in
news:3sc5naFnkgn9U1@individual.net:
| Quote: | Some Criminal Autistic Asshole from Nebraska
If you had a clue Mr. Allison,
** If the Errs anencephalic had any decency - he would commit
suicide now.
What a shame the scum bag doesn't.
Phil, give mr Urz a lesson in suicide by example. |
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Bob Quintal
PA is y I've altered my email address. |
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Bob Urz
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:10 am Post subject:
Re: FUK OFF ERRS TROLL !!!!! |
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Bob Quintal wrote:
| Quote: | "Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in
news:3sc5naFnkgn9U1@individual.net:
Some Criminal Autistic Asshole from Nebraska
If you had a clue Mr. Allison,
** If the Errs anencephalic had any decency - he would commit
suicide now.
What a shame the scum bag doesn't.
Phil, give mr Urz a lesson in suicide by example.
Ah, let him try his home made lobotomy kit before he tries it. |
Bob
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Chad Wahls
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Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject:
Re: WAY OT!! |
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"George Gleason" <Bmoas@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Sdb8f.512649$5N3.363132@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
| Quote: | Joe Kotroczo <kotroczo@mac.com> wrote in
news:1130446731.75c4104860bfe179300eff3539fccf6d@teranews:
On 27/10/05 21:33, in article
paCdnSfLqstatvzenZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@adelphia.com, "TimPerry"
timperry@noaspamadelphia.net> wrote:
(...)
motorcycles must have a 100% stock exhaust system or its
automatically illegal.... even if the engine is off.
Where would that be? DOT should be fine on any exhaust?
What is DOT?
Department Of Transportation. (or Drag Out the Tar)
Still don't get it, but let me guess: it is something valid and
applicable only for or within the US of A, and therefor more or less
insignificant for the rest of the world?
he is talking local law, doesn't even apply in the next county over
george
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Hell over here it may not be a problem in the next block over, depends on
the envorcement. What I like to call the "direct judicial system" :) |
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Mike Dobony
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:05 am Post subject:
Re: motercycle noise |
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"Robert McTigue" <robertmctigue@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:IbGdnf1fj8L2yfzeRVn-vA@comcast.com...
| Quote: | TimPerry wrote:
"Robert McTigue" <robertmctigue@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Zeqdna6Py5zCN_3eRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
TimPerry wrote:
"Pat" <not@bloody.likely> wrote in message
news:not-36AB9D.23595526102005@news.isp.giganews.com...
Being completely tired of the trolls, I thought I'd start a thread
about
live sound.
I've been stage managing some shows, outdoor stage, where the SPL
limit
is 100dB at 100 feet.
What's the regulation where you live?
motorcycles must have a 100% stock exhaust system or its automatically
illegal.... even if the engine is off.
Where would that be? DOT should be fine on any exhaust?
i did a series of show this summer with bands and classic car "cruze
ins".
the show was in a shopping center parking lot. it became quit popular as
it
had been running weekly in the summertime for several years. some weeks
we
has 200 to 300 cars. apparently a neighbor (with political clout) took
offence at the activities. as the parking lot is private property the
enforcement is limited but once on public roads it became "open season"
on
the cars and bikes.
the local PD showed up weekly with 6 units and began handing out
equipment
violation tickets en mass.
this city decided that it didn't need to mess with SPL meters. it just
passed an ordinance that any exhaust system that is not stock is
illegal.
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So that also puts all the muffler shops out of business. NONE of the
mufflers are stock. They are all aftermarket.
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How does that work if you made the bike?
--
Touched by his Noodly Appendage |
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