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Larry Nicholas
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:50 pm    Post subject: getting digital signals on channels 2-99 Reply with quote

I have Adelphia here in California, and Channels 2-99 are analog signals. Is
there anyway to convert these signals to digital signals or is that purely
dependant on Adelphia to do it.

Thanks

Larry

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Dennis Mayer
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:34 am    Post subject: Re: getting digital signals on channels 2-99 Reply with quote

Larry Nicholas wrote:
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I have Adelphia here in California, and Channels 2-99 are analog signals. Is
there anyway to convert these signals to digital signals or is that purely
dependant on Adelphia to do it.

Thanks

Larry


The modern cable Company sends both Analog or Digital Program signals

in the same cable at the same time....

An Analog TV tuner will only pick up chans 2-99 at best....

If you buy or have a QAM digital cable tuner in your HDTV...

then a QAM cable scan will pick up any unscrambled SD or HD TV digital

Programs identified by it's QAM Cable Channel... QAM channels

run from Chan 81.1 to 124.20.... and are a bit confusing to
Identify.

An external ASTC & digital QAM tuner is a Samsung T-451 for $250....

THis unit can output Digital signals found at 480i, 480p, 720p, or
1080i.

It can scan OTA antenna OR QAM Cable... but not both at the same
time.
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kevin.hendry@gmail.com
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: getting digital signals on channels 2-99 Reply with quote

Some providers will give you a second set of channels that are digitial
version of the analog basic set of channels. There is no way for you
to convert the signal at the consumer end. It is up to Adelphia to
provide digital versions for you. Last I heard, by 2009 all cable
providers in the US will be forced to do this.
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Company Man
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: getting digital signals on channels 2-99 Reply with quote

<kevin.hendry@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Last I heard, by 2009 all cable
providers in the US will be forced to do this.


If analog is going away off the air, I sure as hell know they won't see any
reason to carry analog over the cable any longer...
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Mike Rush
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: getting digital signals on channels 2-99 Reply with quote

"Company Man" <spook@covert.invalid> wrote in message
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kevin.hendry@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Last I heard, by 2009 all cable
providers in the US will be forced to do this.


If analog is going away off the air, I sure as hell know they won't see
any reason to carry analog over the cable any longer...


As long as there is money to be made carrying analog channels, the cable
companies will carry them.
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Brad Houser
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 1:56 am    Post subject: Re: getting digital signals on channels 2-99 Reply with quote

On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 04:44:31 GMT, Company Man wrote:

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kevin.hendry@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1130423805.879399.304580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Last I heard, by 2009 all cable
providers in the US will be forced to do this.


If analog is going away off the air, I sure as hell know they won't see any
reason to carry analog over the cable any longer...

The analog channels may go away over the air, but how the cable company
carries it to your house is not required to change. Cable companies will
probably continue to move people to digital, but what is their incentive to
do that? To squeeze more channels in. However, a lot of people just want
basic cable and no set top box, which means they want analog cable. When
OTA analog disappears there will be a lot of TV's that will become obsolete
without a new set top box (ATSC, cable, satellite) or guess what? Analog
cable! There will be a huge demand for basic analog cable for those who
want to hang on to their TVs and want to watch TV without getting a new
box.

Call it the new lowest common denominator.

Brad Houser
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Grimey
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: getting digital signals on channels 2-99 Reply with quote

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As long as there is money to be made carrying analog channels, the cable
companies will carry them.

I think the incentive is that it will be federally mandated. They will
not be permitted to broadcast analog channels. I beleive that even
Cable broadcast through coax will be affected by the 2009 deadline.

You raise an interesting question about the over-the-cable broadcasts
however. They may still require FCC approvale to use the bandwidth.
Especially since some parts are going to be used by Emergency Medical
Services.

They have more incentive than just getting more channels. If they no
longer have to broadcast analog, they no longer have to maintain the
analog equipment and can use the more efficien digital only. They will
save money on power since the power required for digital signals is
much lower than analog. I don't think they would continue to send out
analog any longer than they have to.

People will not need set tops by the time the switchover kicks in. TV
manufacturers will have to sell TVs with digital tuners, and there will
be incentives for those TVs. They will be able to get basic cable.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1881628,00.asp
http://www.tvtechnology.com/dailynews/one.php?id=3393
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Brad Houser
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Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 2:00 am    Post subject: Re: getting digital signals on channels 2-99 Reply with quote

On 4 Nov 2005 05:44:29 -0800, Grimey wrote:

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As long as there is money to be made carrying analog channels, the cable
companies will carry them.

I think the incentive is that it will be federally mandated. They will
not be permitted to broadcast analog channels. I beleive that even
Cable broadcast through coax will be affected by the 2009 deadline.

I disagree. Cable is not broadcast, it is confined to the cable system. The
same rules do not apply. I see no reason why they won't be able to continue
to send an analog version (of what is broadcast OTA as digital) if they see
money in it. Of course, market forces will probably drive them to all
digital, since the basic cable business is not a big money maker.

Quote:

You raise an interesting question about the over-the-cable broadcasts
however. They may still require FCC approvale to use the bandwidth.
Especially since some parts are going to be used by Emergency Medical
Services.

FCC does not regulate bandwidth within the cable.


Quote:

People will not need set tops by the time the switchover kicks in.

Are you suggesting every analog TV will be replaced in the next 5 years? I
doubt it. The fact that there will be so many current technology TVs will
allow satellite and cable viewers to postpone that purchase. OTA viewers
will be able to buy cheap ATSC tuners, which will come down in price when
the demand is there and the technology goes high volume. Gradually the
analog TVs will all get sent to the dump, but you can bet a good number of
them will still be working.

Quote:
TV
manufacturers will have to sell TVs with digital tuners, and there will
be incentives for those TVs.

You mean manufacturer incentives? I don't expect Uncle Sam to give me a
rebate. The incentive is that you want wide screen and digital.

BH
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