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Newbury
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 2:18 pm    Post subject: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

Is anyone here capturing to a SATA drive? I need to know if there are any
problems. I have a Maxtor that is failing the test according to Pinnacle S8.
It is unusable with a fraction of the speed of the same IDE drive. The
Maxtor 300 Gig IDE is showing a read of 63411 and write of 32902 while the
SATA shows 3657 read and 3795 write. Anyone know of another way to do the
same test?

TIA
Newbury

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Markus Zingg
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

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I have a Maxtor that is failing the test according to Pinnacle S8.

The Pinnacle test untility is VERY old, and due to a bug can't handle
the extremly high throughput of your drive. Simply ignore the test. If
the software "inists", try to reset it and use the drive "untested".

HTH

Markus
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Jona Vark
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Is anyone here capturing to a SATA drive? I need to know if there are any
problems. I have a Maxtor that is failing the test according to Pinnacle
S8.
It is unusable with a fraction of the speed of the same IDE drive. The
Maxtor 300 Gig IDE is showing a read of 63411 and write of 32902 while the
SATA shows 3657 read and 3795 write. Anyone know of another way to do the
same test?

TIA
Newbury



Don't rely on any Pinnacle test. SATA is very capable but I suspect the
test is not.
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Ken Maltby
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

"Jona Vark" <noemail@all.com> wrote in message
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"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in message
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Is anyone here capturing to a SATA drive? I need to know if there are any
problems. I have a Maxtor that is failing the test according to Pinnacle
S8.
It is unusable with a fraction of the speed of the same IDE drive. The
Maxtor 300 Gig IDE is showing a read of 63411 and write of 32902 while
the
SATA shows 3657 read and 3795 write. Anyone know of another way to do the
same test?

TIA
Newbury



Don't rely on any Pinnacle test. SATA is very capable but I suspect the
test is not.


And to answer your question I capture to a WD 10,000rpm
Raptor SATA drive, with no problems at all.

Luck;
Ken
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TonyP
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

Newbury wrote:

Quote:
Is anyone here capturing to a SATA drive? I need to know if there are any
problems. I have a Maxtor that is failing the test according to Pinnacle S8.
It is unusable with a fraction of the speed of the same IDE drive. The
Maxtor 300 Gig IDE is showing a read of 63411 and write of 32902 while the
SATA shows 3657 read and 3795 write. Anyone know of another way to do the
same test?

If you are capturing DV footage, just about any current drive will work.
No problem here.
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Newbury
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 4:10 am    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

TonyP wrote:
Quote:
Newbury wrote:

Is anyone here capturing to a SATA drive? I need to know if there
are any problems. I have a Maxtor that is failing the test according
to Pinnacle S8. It is unusable with a fraction of the speed of the
same IDE drive. The Maxtor 300 Gig IDE is showing a read of 63411
and write of 32902 while the SATA shows 3657 read and 3795 write.
Anyone know of another way to do the same test?

If you are capturing DV footage, just about any current drive will
work. No problem here.

OK, so I will keep it then. I am pretty sure Pinnacle will not allow
capture to a drive it thinks is not capable but I like the idea that Ken has
about using a really fast drive to capture to. The other drives don't all
have to be the fastest I guess.

Newbury
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Larry Johnson
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Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

DV capture only requires a sustained data rate of about 4MB/sec. A Pentium
One system with UDMA33 drives at 5400RPM will do this without any problems.
SATA is well beyond that.
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"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Is anyone here capturing to a SATA drive? I need to know if there are any
problems. I have a Maxtor that is failing the test according to Pinnacle
S8. It is unusable with a fraction of the speed of the same IDE drive. The
Maxtor 300 Gig IDE is showing a read of 63411 and write of 32902 while the
SATA shows 3657 read and 3795 write. Anyone know of another way to do the
same test?

TIA
Newbury
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Jucius Maximus
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:09 am    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

I always capture to my Seagate 7200.7 200GB SATA with no problems.

"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in
news:RKydnV1MEuKL18LeRVn-iQ@comcast.com:

Quote:
Is anyone here capturing to a SATA drive? I need to know if there are
any
problems. I have a Maxtor that is failing the test according to
Pinnacle S8. It is unusable with a fraction of the speed of the same
IDE drive.
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David Carlstrom
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

Look at the SATA drive properties. Set everything to default. For IDE
default is slow, but it seems to make SATA drives a lot faster. Mine are
faster than similar IDE drives.

"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Is anyone here capturing to a SATA drive? I need to know if there are any
problems. I have a Maxtor that is failing the test according to Pinnacle
S8.
It is unusable with a fraction of the speed of the same IDE drive. The
Maxtor 300 Gig IDE is showing a read of 63411 and write of 32902 while the
SATA shows 3657 read and 3795 write. Anyone know of another way to do the
same test?
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David Carlstrom
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

Use a search engine to find "Rextest". It is an old tool, but works fine.

"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in message
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Good idea. Do you know any that have a drive tester? I have several video
applications and only S8 has that. It does not seem like a feature that
would be easy to tell without installing and testing.
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Newbury
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

Jucius Maximus wrote:
Quote:
I always capture to my Seagate 7200.7 200GB SATA with no problems.

"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in
news:RKydnV1MEuKL18LeRVn-iQ@comcast.com:

Is anyone here capturing to a SATA drive? I need to know if there
are any
problems. I have a Maxtor that is failing the test according to
Pinnacle S8. It is unusable with a fraction of the speed of the same
IDE drive.

Some how I have mine screwed up I guess. I hate to return something if it's
me. I just can't find any method to debug this setup.

Thanks for the reply.

Newbury
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Jona Vark
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in message
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Jucius Maximus wrote:
I always capture to my Seagate 7200.7 200GB SATA with no problems.

"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in
news:RKydnV1MEuKL18LeRVn-iQ@comcast.com:

Is anyone here capturing to a SATA drive? I need to know if there
are any
problems. I have a Maxtor that is failing the test according to
Pinnacle S8. It is unusable with a fraction of the speed of the same
IDE drive.

Some how I have mine screwed up I guess. I hate to return something if
it's
me. I just can't find any method to debug this setup.


get a free version of some other editing package. Because you are using
Pinnacle stuff.. it is the first place I would look.





Quote:

Thanks for the reply.

Newbury

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Newbury
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

Jona Vark wrote:
Quote:
"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in message
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Jucius Maximus wrote:
I always capture to my Seagate 7200.7 200GB SATA with no problems.

"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in
news:RKydnV1MEuKL18LeRVn-iQ@comcast.com:

Is anyone here capturing to a SATA drive? I need to know if there
are any
problems. I have a Maxtor that is failing the test according to
Pinnacle S8. It is unusable with a fraction of the speed of the
same IDE drive.

Some how I have mine screwed up I guess. I hate to return something
if it's me. I just can't find any method to debug this setup.


get a free version of some other editing package. Because you are
using Pinnacle stuff.. it is the first place I would look.

Good idea. Do you know any that have a drive tester? I have several video

applications and only S8 has that. It does not seem like a feature that
would be easy to tell without installing and testing.
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Alex Bird
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

Newbury wrote:
Quote:
Jona Vark wrote:
"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in message

Good idea. Do you know any that have a drive tester? I have several video
applications and only S8 has that. It does not seem like a feature that
would be easy to tell without installing and testing.


You _don't_ need to test your drive. The best test is using the
software.

If it's only capture which is a problem with Pinnacle, use WinDV:

http://windv.mourek.cz/

which is totally free.

Alex
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Newbury
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 1:10 am    Post subject: Re: Capturing to SATA Reply with quote

Alex Bird wrote:
Quote:
Newbury wrote:
Jona Vark wrote:
"Newbury" <Newbury@spamex.com> wrote in message

Good idea. Do you know any that have a drive tester? I have several
video applications and only S8 has that. It does not seem like a
feature that would be easy to tell without installing and testing.


You _don't_ need to test your drive. The best test is using the
software.

If it's only capture which is a problem with Pinnacle, use WinDV:

http://windv.mourek.cz/

which is totally free.

Alex

Thanks Alex. I will DL that right away and give it a try. I am not really
have any difficulties capturing with any application I have, I usually use
VirtualDub, as long as I don't try to use the SATA. I see that others are
having no troubles so I must debug this somehow. I can see where you don't
need a test, as long as it does capture that would be enough.

Thanks for the reply.

Newbury
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