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Java Jive
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:27 pm Post subject:
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Yes, strange indeed ... Apologies then ...
"Brian K" <iibntgyea4 REMOVE_THIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | It's very clear. However I posted 3 days ago. Your posts are dated 27 and
28
Oct and even though I check this Newsgroup twice a day, both of your posts
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Brian K
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Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:04 pm Post subject:
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None needed.
"Java Jive" <java@evij.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Yes, strange indeed ... Apologies then ...
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Biz
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:40 am Post subject:
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"Java Jive" <java@evij.com> wrote in message
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I'm baffled as to what part of this I explained so badly that people
seem
to
have difficulty in understanding it ...
No, it uses a HD version of the same UDF-based format used for DVD-RAM,
a
non-PC format, and, unfortunately, unless things have changed with more
recent models, the HD size is hard-encoded into the machine, so any
replacement HD will be formatted to exactly the same capacity as the
original.
Hi , I'm dense, so i'll go ahead and ask: this applies to smaller capacity
drives? It HAS to be the exact same size...i wanna make sure. I have an
extra drive i wanted to install in another set-top that has no drive--the
old one is damaged.
thanks
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I'm going to make an educated guess and say any replacement drive needs to
be the same size or bigger than the original size. Although upon
formatting, it will only end up the same size as the original drive. I will
also make an educated guess and say you CANNOT use a drive even slightly
smaller, as you get an error. |
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Java Jive
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:40 am Post subject:
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Is it a Panasonic? If yes, I don't know of anyone trying a smaller drive in
one, so I can't give a definitive answer, but my guess is that you're
shafted. If it's another make, then there may be hope, depending on the
make.
There's a remote possibility that a Panasonic's firmware would allow for
smaller drives from earlier models but not ones larger than the current
maximum in use at the time of manufacture, so it *might* cope with a smaller
drive. Do you care about the drive or its current contents? If not, you
could try it. Of, course, there's a risk that it may actually break the
drive, though I rather think it would be more likely to just give errors,
which may only appear as the smaller capacity gets filled up with recordings
and the firmware tries to write to areas of the disk beyond those which
physically exist.
A larger drive would be no problem in a Panasonic, but, unless things have
changed since mine was manufactured, you would only be able to use the
original's capacity of it, the rest would be wasted.
"zenia" <xzenia05@global-mail.com> wrote in message
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"Java Jive" <java@evij.com> wrote in message
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No, it uses a HD version of the same UDF-based format used for DVD-RAM,
a
non-PC format, and, unfortunately, unless things have changed with more
recent models, the HD size is hard-encoded into the machine, so any
replacement HD will be formatted to exactly the same capacity as the
original.
Hi , I'm dense, so i'll go ahead and ask: this applies to smaller capacity
drives? It HAS to be the exact same size...i wanna make sure. I have an
extra drive i wanted to install in another set-top that has no drive--the
old one is damaged.
thanks |
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zenia
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:40 am Post subject:
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"Java Jive" <java@evij.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I'm baffled as to what part of this I explained so badly that people seem
to
have difficulty in understanding it ...
No, it uses a HD version of the same UDF-based format used for DVD-RAM, a
non-PC format, and, unfortunately, unless things have changed with more
recent models, the HD size is hard-encoded into the machine, so any
replacement HD will be formatted to exactly the same capacity as the
original.
Hi , I'm dense, so i'll go ahead and ask: this applies to smaller capacity |
drives? It HAS to be the exact same size...i wanna make sure. I have an
extra drive i wanted to install in another set-top that has no drive--the
old one is damaged.
thanks |
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eroy
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:03 am Post subject:
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"Robert Nichols" <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> wrote in
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| Quote: | In article <GBS7f.18956$aX.15549@fe09.news.easynews.com>,
eroy <luliyt005@exmail.com> wrote:
:My Panasonic DMR-E100H set-top recorder is going through the endless
error
:loop whenever I power on [SELF-CHECK > Error has occured > press enter
:change the disc > ejects > BYE...]. Doing a google search i found this
was a
:common problem with some of these Panasonic units, and is likely caused
by
:excessive editing and maxing out the space. I'm wondering if there's any
way
:to retrieve/salvage what's on the 180 maxtor HD, is there a way to boot
into
:a service mode where i can reset or maybe format?
There's no way that I know of to recover what's currently on the drive,
but there is a way to coax the E100 into reformatting the drive. You'll
need another disk drive, but only temporarily. Install the replacement
drive and power up the E100. It will tell you that the drive needs to
be formatted. DON'T DO IT. Just turn the unit off and re-install the
original drive. When you power up the E100 again it will see that the
drive has been changed and tell you it needs to be formatted.
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Bob, I installed a brand new drive (same size) in the unit and it just gave
me the exact same errors with no option to format. I tried different jumper
settings, but nothing worked. It won't even format the new drive! what to
do now...? :-( |
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Robert Nichols
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:57 pm Post subject:
Re: Panasonic Set-Top dvd recorder error |
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In article <NWuaf.92434$Vm6.21607@fe06.news.easynews.com>,
eroy <luliyt005@exmail.com> wrote:
:
:"Robert Nichols" <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> wrote in
:message news:djqosq$nsf$1@omega-3a.right.here...
:> In article <GBS7f.18956$aX.15549@fe09.news.easynews.com>,
:> eroy <luliyt005@exmail.com> wrote:
:> :My Panasonic DMR-E100H set-top recorder is going through the endless
:> error
:> :loop whenever I power on [SELF-CHECK > Error has occured > press enter >
:> :change the disc > ejects > BYE...]. Doing a google search i found this
:> was a
:> :common problem with some of these Panasonic units, and is likely caused
:> by
:> :excessive editing and maxing out the space. I'm wondering if there's any
:> way
:> :to retrieve/salvage what's on the 180 maxtor HD, is there a way to boot
:> into
:> :a service mode where i can reset or maybe format?
:>
:> There's no way that I know of to recover what's currently on the drive,
:> but there is a way to coax the E100 into reformatting the drive. You'll
:> need another disk drive, but only temporarily. Install the replacement
:> drive and power up the E100. It will tell you that the drive needs to
:> be formatted. DON'T DO IT. Just turn the unit off and re-install the
:> original drive. When you power up the E100 again it will see that the
:> drive has been changed and tell you it needs to be formatted.
:>
:
:Bob, I installed a brand new drive (same size) in the unit and it just gave
:me the exact same errors with no option to format. I tried different jumper
:settings, but nothing worked. It won't even format the new drive! what to
:do now...? :-(
Ouch! Sounds like it's not a problem with the drive, and the E100 will
have to be repaired or replaced. That's the bad news. The good news is
that the HD formatting is probably intact and the data on the drive can
be rescued if you can get ahold of a functional E100 to read it. You'll
need to save a complete image of the current drive (I have no idea how,
or even if, you can do that under MS-Windows.) and restore it to the
good E100's drive. Since the E100 will see the same drive reinstalled,
albeit with new data, I believe it will not insist on formatting the
drive.
--
Bob Nichols AT comcast.net I am "RNichols42" |
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Robert Nichols
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Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:18 pm Post subject:
Re: Panasonic Set-Top dvd recorder error |
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In article <dkfss9$u0d$1@omega-3a.right.here>,
Robert Nichols <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> wrote:
:In article <NWuaf.92434$Vm6.21607@fe06.news.easynews.com>,
:eroy <luliyt005@exmail.com> wrote:
::
::Bob, I installed a brand new drive (same size) in the unit and it just gave
::me the exact same errors with no option to format. I tried different jumper
::settings, but nothing worked. It won't even format the new drive! what to
::do now...? :-(
:
:Ouch! Sounds like it's not a problem with the drive, and the E100 will
:have to be repaired or replaced. That's the bad news. The good news is
:that the HD formatting is probably intact and the data on the drive can
:be rescued if you can get ahold of a functional E100 to read it. You'll
:need to save a complete image of the current drive (I have no idea how,
:or even if, you can do that under MS-Windows.) and restore it to the
:good E100's drive. Since the E100 will see the same drive reinstalled,
:albeit with new data, I believe it will not insist on formatting the
:drive.
Just to be certain on one important point, there is currently NO disk
in the optical drive, right? The problem of endless self-check due
to a bad disk in the optical drive is an entirely different matter.
--
Bob Nichols AT comcast.net I am "RNichols42" |
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eroy
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:43 pm Post subject:
Re: Panasonic Set-Top dvd recorder error |
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"Robert Nichols" <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> wrote in
message news:dkfu43$u4l$1@omega-3a.right.here...
| Quote: | In article <dkfss9$u0d$1@omega-3a.right.here>,
Robert Nichols <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> wrote:
:In article <NWuaf.92434$Vm6.21607@fe06.news.easynews.com>,
:eroy <luliyt005@exmail.com> wrote:
::
::Bob, I installed a brand new drive (same size) in the unit and it just
gave
::me the exact same errors with no option to format. I tried different
jumper
::settings, but nothing worked. It won't even format the new drive! what
to
::do now...? :-(
:
:Ouch! Sounds like it's not a problem with the drive, and the E100 will
:have to be repaired or replaced. That's the bad news. The good news is
:that the HD formatting is probably intact and the data on the drive can
:be rescued if you can get ahold of a functional E100 to read it. You'll
:need to save a complete image of the current drive (I have no idea how,
:or even if, you can do that under MS-Windows.) and restore it to the
:good E100's drive. Since the E100 will see the same drive reinstalled,
:albeit with new data, I believe it will not insist on formatting the
:drive.
Just to be certain on one important point, there is currently NO disk
in the optical drive, right? The problem of endless self-check due
to a bad disk in the optical drive is an entirely different matter.
Nope, no disc. I even disconnected the cable that goes directly into the |
dvd drive and received the same error , except it didn't eject of course. |
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eroy
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:58 pm Post subject:
Re: Panasonic Set-Top dvd recorder error |
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"Robert Nichols" <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> wrote in
message news:dkfss9$u0d$1@omega-3a.right.here...
| Quote: | In article <NWuaf.92434$Vm6.21607@fe06.news.easynews.com>,
eroy <luliyt005@exmail.com> wrote:
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:"Robert Nichols" <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> wrote in
:message news:djqosq$nsf$1@omega-3a.right.here...
:> In article <GBS7f.18956$aX.15549@fe09.news.easynews.com>,
:> eroy <luliyt005@exmail.com> wrote:
:> :My Panasonic DMR-E100H set-top recorder is going through the endless
:> error
:> :loop whenever I power on [SELF-CHECK > Error has occured > press enter
:> :change the disc > ejects > BYE...]. Doing a google search i found this
:> was a
:> :common problem with some of these Panasonic units, and is likely
caused
:> by
:> :excessive editing and maxing out the space. I'm wondering if there's
any
:> way
:> :to retrieve/salvage what's on the 180 maxtor HD, is there a way to
boot
:> into
:> :a service mode where i can reset or maybe format?
:
:> There's no way that I know of to recover what's currently on the drive,
:> but there is a way to coax the E100 into reformatting the drive.
You'll
:> need another disk drive, but only temporarily. Install the replacement
:> drive and power up the E100. It will tell you that the drive needs to
:> be formatted. DON'T DO IT. Just turn the unit off and re-install the
:> original drive. When you power up the E100 again it will see that the
:> drive has been changed and tell you it needs to be formatted.
:
:
:Bob, I installed a brand new drive (same size) in the unit and it just
gave
:me the exact same errors with no option to format. I tried different
jumper
:settings, but nothing worked. It won't even format the new drive! what
to
:do now...? :-(
Ouch! Sounds like it's not a problem with the drive, and the E100 will
have to be repaired or replaced. That's the bad news. The good news is
that the HD formatting is probably intact and the data on the drive can
be rescued if you can get ahold of a functional E100 to read it. You'll
need to save a complete image of the current drive (I have no idea how,
or even if, you can do that under MS-Windows.) and restore it to the
good E100's drive. Since the E100 will see the same drive reinstalled,
albeit with new data, I believe it will not insist on formatting the
drive.
This is great news if it's true. I finally got a chance to open up the unit |
and poke around a bit...i'm not sure what i was looking for--a reset
something or other. I tried unplugging the two cables that are connected to
the small circuit board (where the drives connect to) mounted onto the main
electric board, then powered up... nothing happened. Put everything back and
still the same errors. This sucks.
I don't know about a replacement, i have no warrranty. But thanks for your
replies and your help. |
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eroy
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:11 pm Post subject:
Re: Panasonic Set-Top dvd recorder error |
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"eroy" <luliyt005@exmail.com> wrote in message
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"Robert Nichols" <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> wrote in
message news:dkfss9$u0d$1@omega-3a.right.here...
In article <NWuaf.92434$Vm6.21607@fe06.news.easynews.com>,
eroy <luliyt005@exmail.com> wrote:
:
:"Robert Nichols" <SEE_SIGNATURE@localhost.localdomain.invalid> wrote in
:message news:djqosq$nsf$1@omega-3a.right.here...
:> In article <GBS7f.18956$aX.15549@fe09.news.easynews.com>,
:> eroy <luliyt005@exmail.com> wrote:
:> :My Panasonic DMR-E100H set-top recorder is going through the endless
:> error
:> :loop whenever I power on [SELF-CHECK > Error has occured > press
enter
:> :change the disc > ejects > BYE...]. Doing a google search i found
this
:> was a
:> :common problem with some of these Panasonic units, and is likely
caused
:> by
:> :excessive editing and maxing out the space. I'm wondering if there's
any
:> way
:> :to retrieve/salvage what's on the 180 maxtor HD, is there a way to
boot
:> into
:> :a service mode where i can reset or maybe format?
:
:> There's no way that I know of to recover what's currently on the
drive,
:> but there is a way to coax the E100 into reformatting the drive.
You'll
:> need another disk drive, but only temporarily. Install the
replacement
:> drive and power up the E100. It will tell you that the drive needs to
:> be formatted. DON'T DO IT. Just turn the unit off and re-install the
:> original drive. When you power up the E100 again it will see that the
:> drive has been changed and tell you it needs to be formatted.
:
:
:Bob, I installed a brand new drive (same size) in the unit and it just
gave
:me the exact same errors with no option to format. I tried different
jumper
:settings, but nothing worked. It won't even format the new drive! what
to
:do now...? :-(
Ouch! Sounds like it's not a problem with the drive, and the E100 will
have to be repaired or replaced. That's the bad news. The good news is
that the HD formatting is probably intact and the data on the drive can
be rescued if you can get ahold of a functional E100 to read it. You'll
need to save a complete image of the current drive (I have no idea how,
or even if, you can do that under MS-Windows.) and restore it to the
good E100's drive. Since the E100 will see the same drive reinstalled,
albeit with new data, I believe it will not insist on formatting the
drive.
This is great news if it's true. I finally got a chance to open up the
unit and poke around a bit...i'm not sure what i was looking for--a reset
something or other. I tried unplugging the two cables that are connected
to the small circuit board (where the drives connect to) mounted onto the
main electric board, then powered up... nothing happened. Put everything
back and still the same errors. This sucks.
I don't know about a replacement, i have no warrranty. But thanks for your
replies and your help.
Oh, i also saw a battery (3v) on the electric circuit board...i wonder if |
pulling it out for a little while would do anything.
<sigh> |
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