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Mike
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:15 pm Post subject:
Re: A night at the bar |
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| Quote: | QSC plx series are a PITA when it comes to IEC connectors. i've
had to fasten them all in now as they would work loose just from a
bit of traveling (admitedly on its back where the wheels are).
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I tuck the AC cables in between the amps and the side of the rack (helps
with neatness and airflow). To prevent the connector from falling out just
bend the AC cable around and zip tie it to the rear rack mount tab on the
amp.
| Quote: | I certainly agree with making panels up. theres no reason not to for
outputs especially. You need someone that knows how they are
wired up though in case they go wrong.
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That's the bueaty of panels though... The wiring should't go wrong.
You're moving all the stress and wear of the connection to the panel mounted
connectors. That is unless someone is in there playing around or you're
shoving a bunch of cabling into the back of the rack, stressing the internal
connections.
Idealy the back of the rack should be paneled (connection, fan and/or
vent panels) so that you can't get to anything.
| Quote: | Its all about making life so much easier isn't it. I use an 8 way XLR
multi to go to the monitor amp rack, this stays wired into the rack.
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Exactly... Easier, faster and fewer connections... This is why we use
multipins and larger multi circuit AC plugs.
| Quote: | and comes out the front panel. The outputs are on the front panel aswell.
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I don't like cabling on the front panels personally.
First, I don't like cabling hanging down on the front of the racks.
This is more of an issue if you're stacking racks at shows to save on space
or to get racks up to a decent working height (like putting a monitor
processing rack up on an amp rack).
Second, you need either a bigger rack or multiple racks to get the same
amount of gear in. By putting all the connections on the back of the rack
you can fully load up the front. Also, since truck space and case prices
are valuable it pays to keep your setup in smaller cases.
Third it's REAL easy to step on cables (and stress the connection) when
they're on the front of a rack...
| Quote: | Same with FOH. Means once ive plugged teh supply in at the back
(32 single phase FOH and 16 single phase Mons) i can put them in
a corner out the way and work from the front panel.
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Might as well put the rest of the connections on the back with the AC...
By putting some on the front and some on the rear you're actually increasing
the amount of space you need because of the cabling sticking out both sides.
| Quote: | Just have FOH itself to sort out now, bit of a mess at the moment.
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LOL. That was the first thing we setup at the shop I was working at...
For the "A" system with a XL200 FOH console it was: 1-18sp comp/gate rack
with 2-24ch multipins (24 channels of balanced send/return), 1-18sp
drive/playback rack with 2-24ch multipin (1 to the console and 1 for the
24ch return snake) and 1-14sp FX rack with a 24ch multipin (8 FX with mono
send and stereo return). All the multipins are 30 ft long, to allow for
various rack placements, and live in the console dog house.
Mike Borkhuis
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Kurt Albershardt
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:08 pm Post subject:
Re: IEC retainer clips (was: A night at the bar) |
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Gene Sweeny wrote:
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There are IEC locking solutions out there, but they are around $5-10 a
piece. I probably have 20-30 things that use them. However, I'd
probably start with the single point of failure stuff and the PLX/RMX
amps I have.
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<http://www.qualtekusa.com/catalog/na_power/retainer.html> about $2 in
lots of 25. |
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Mike
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:17 pm Post subject:
Re: IEC retainer clips (was: A night at the bar) |
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| Quote: | http://www.qualtekusa.com/catalog/na_power/retainer.html
about $2 in lots of 25.
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Nice... Looks like a good place to get custom length IEC cables too. =)
Mike Borkhuis |
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Gene Sweeny
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 11:21 pm Post subject:
Re: IEC retainer clips (was: A night at the bar) |
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Kurt Albershardt wrote:
| Quote: | Gene Sweeny wrote:
There are IEC locking solutions out there, but they are around $5-10 a
piece. I probably have 20-30 things that use them. However, I'd
probably start with the single point of failure stuff and the PLX/RMX
amps I have.
http://www.qualtekusa.com/catalog/na_power/retainer.html> about $2 in
lots of 25.
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Nice. Thanks Kurt. The ones I've seen before were more convoluted
with a plastic box that went around the IEC connector end. |
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Phildo
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:48 am Post subject:
Re: A night at the bar |
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"Rob Beech" <Mail@robbeech.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Just have FOH itself to sort out now, bit of a mess at the moment.
Maybe Arny could give you a hand? |
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Kurt Albershardt
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:43 am Post subject:
Re: IEC cables & retainer clips |
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Mike wrote:
| Quote: | http://www.qualtekusa.com/catalog/na_power/retainer.html
about $2 in lots of 25.
Nice... Looks like a good place to get custom length IEC cables too. =)
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If I really need an exact length I usually just replace one end of a
premade cable. Most of the time I can get pretty close (at great
prices) from <http://www.cablewholesale.com/catalog/powercords.htm> |
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Mike
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:43 am Post subject:
Re: IEC cables & retainer clips |
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That's perfect. A crew guy from a local party band was looking for a
25ft IEC cable to use with the guitar players rig... Pedal board has an IEC
power input and the 25ft cord would be a lot nicer than a 6ft and extension
cord.
Mike Borkhuis |
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Kurt Albershardt
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:58 am Post subject:
Re: IEC cables |
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Mike wrote:
| Quote: | If I really need an exact length I usually just replace one end
of a premade cable. Most of the time I can get pretty close
(at great prices) from
http://www.cablewholesale.com/catalog/powercords.htm
That's perfect. A crew guy from a local party band was looking for a
25ft IEC cable to use with the guitar players rig... Pedal board has an IEC
power input and the 25ft cord would be a lot nicer than a 6ft and extension
cord.
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The 25-footers are new, hadn't noticed them before. Could prove handy
for SOS setups. |
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Jason Lavoie
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 3:28 am Post subject:
Re: IEC cables & retainer clips |
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 04:21:20 GMT, "Mike" <no_mail@no_spam.com> wrote:
| Quote: | If I really need an exact length I usually just replace one end
of a premade cable. Most of the time I can get pretty close
(at great prices) from
http://www.cablewholesale.com/catalog/powercords.htm
That's perfect. A crew guy from a local party band was looking for a
25ft IEC cable to use with the guitar players rig... Pedal board has an IEC
power input and the 25ft cord would be a lot nicer than a 6ft and extension
cord.
Mike Borkhuis
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I have some 25' IEC's for my powered speakers. they're very very
handy.
what good is a speaker that comes with a cord that doesn't even reach
the ground?
Jason |
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Pooh Bear
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
Re: IEC cables & retainer clips |
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Jason Lavoie wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 04:21:20 GMT, "Mike" <no_mail@no_spam.com> wrote:
If I really need an exact length I usually just replace one end
of a premade cable. Most of the time I can get pretty close
(at great prices) from
http://www.cablewholesale.com/catalog/powercords.htm
That's perfect. A crew guy from a local party band was looking for a
25ft IEC cable to use with the guitar players rig... Pedal board has an IEC
power input and the 25ft cord would be a lot nicer than a 6ft and extension
cord.
Mike Borkhuis
I have some 25' IEC's for my powered speakers. they're very very
handy.
what good is a speaker that comes with a cord that doesn't even reach
the ground?
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I've bought some power tools you could make the same comment about. Totally
stupid.
Graham |
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KGT
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:26 pm Post subject:
Re: A night at the bar |
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I've played that joint many times years ago. They should have kept it a
shaker bar as its a very bad room for bands.
Kevin T |
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Michael R. Kesti
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:50 pm Post subject:
Re: A night at the bar |
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KGT wrote:
| Quote: | I've played that joint many times years ago. They should have kept it a
shaker bar as its a very bad room for bands.
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I'm not familiar with the term "shaker bar." Please explain.
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Michael Kesti | "And like, one and one don't make
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mrkesti at comcast dot net | - The Who, Bargain |
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GregS
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:22 am Post subject:
Re: A night at the bar |
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In article <435E7E58.42DC864C@nospam.net>, mrkesti@nospam.net wrote:
| Quote: | KGT wrote:
I've played that joint many times years ago. They should have kept it a
shaker bar as its a very bad room for bands.
I'm not familiar with the term "shaker bar." Please explain.
Shake your ass? |
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Thomas Bishop
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 4:06 am Post subject:
Re: A night at the bar |
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"GregS" <szekeres@pitt.edu> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In article <435E7E58.42DC864C@nospam.net>, mrkesti@nospam.net wrote:
KGT wrote:
I've played that joint many times years ago. They should have kept it a
shaker bar as its a very bad room for bands.
I'm not familiar with the term "shaker bar." Please explain.
Shake your ass?
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Shake your titties? |
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Chad Wahls
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject:
Re: A night at the bar |
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"Thomas Bishop" <bishopthomas@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"GregS" <szekeres@pitt.edu> wrote in message
news:djm0l8$l0g$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu...
In article <435E7E58.42DC864C@nospam.net>, mrkesti@nospam.net wrote:
KGT wrote:
I've played that joint many times years ago. They should have kept it a
shaker bar as its a very bad room for bands.
I'm not familiar with the term "shaker bar." Please explain.
Shake your ass?
Shake your titties?
Shake your money-maker? |
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