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shannon
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

George Gleason wrote:

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silly things that can be reduce easily to math will be automated like gain
structure and starting eq adjustments
BTW arn't we supposed to be boycotting EAW for copying the RMX amps?
George

It depends on how high your horse is.

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Bob Urz
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

shannon wrote:
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If its got Smaart, then its probably got Windows so you can record
replay, browse newsgroups, surf porn, Instant message the monitors etc

Great, the "blue stage of death"
Try to explain to your tour manager your console had a virus
and will be temporarily out of action.....
Then, it will be duumb.

Imagine, arguing with Arny live at a show through your console.
The possibilities.

Bob

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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:42 am    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

Bob Urz wrote:
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shannon wrote:


If its got Smaart, then its probably got Windows so you can record
replay, browse newsgroups, surf porn, Instant message the monitors etc


Great, the "blue stage of death"
Try to explain to your tour manager your console had a virus
and will be temporarily out of action.....
Then, it will be duumb.

Imagine, arguing with Arny live at a show through your console.
The possibilities.

Bob

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Yeah there is endless Windows bashing potential, lets not go there its
boring
(Imagine waking up in hospital on a life support system running Windows
etc.)
I can reboot the PC that controls my crossovers without affecting
anything though, its up to the designers of these consoles how they
integrate the system blocks.
Dave Natale will never use one.
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Mike
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:52 am    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

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Am liking it having a touch screen, something I'd like my PM1D to have.

I never did like touch screens... Too hard to keep them clean.

Mike Borkhuis
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Tim S Kemp
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
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Am liking it having a touch screen, something I'd like my PM1D to
have.

I never did like touch screens... Too hard to keep them clean.

Mike Borkhuis

Spectacle cleaning kit (fluid and a microfibre cloth) from your nearest
optician. Useful for LCD, Plasma, Touch and Spectacles.

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million miles a day / In an outer spiral arm, at 40,000 miles an hour,
/ Of the galaxy we call the Milky Way.
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

"shannon" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message news:435991e4$1@clear.net.nz...
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Tim Scott wrote:
"shannon" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Pooh Bear wrote:

Phildo wrote:



Just been flicking through my latest issue of pro sound news.

EAW have got a new digital desk. Anyone had a chance to look at this
yet?
Looks like Mackie decided not to market it under their own name because
of
the bad rep their mixers have. Looks interesting with Smaartlive being
built
in.


Yup. Read that too.

I expect it was indeed actually entirely Mackie designed but they
realised that
putting the Mackie name on it would cause it be seen as a downmarket
product.

The thing about Smaartlive caught my eye too. Is this a trend to
'automate'
sound and mixing by attempting to partly take the sound mixer out of the
equation. Slippery slope imho.

Graham


No, I think its just more convenient for display and control than an
external laptop.
I think we will see consoles of this type enabling cobranet control of
speaker controllers.


Or having the speaker controllers built into the actual desk like this
new EAW/Makie one does
Once you digitise the mix it doesn't matter where the speaker controllers
are, but if you have to feed analogue audio back to the stage on 8 lines
plus more for infill etc you start to lose the advantage.
I'd be happier being able to bring up a control page of my speaker
controllers of choice at the speaker end rather than having to run
analogue subs lows mids highs x 2 x number of zones from the console.
Using IP networking all the way fron console to amplifier is the ultimate
goal.

I guess there is a bit of wait and see with this console. It states that
the mic pres are remote conrollable, which to me says that they are extrenal
from the desk, so with same thinking it could be true that the output DA's
are too, and then it all depends on how they've decided that the desk and
ADs / DAs hook-up
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Tim Scott
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

"mcsteve" <mcstevex1350@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Pooh Bear" wrote:
Is this a trend to 'automate'
sound and mixing by attempting to partly take the sound mixer out of the
equation. Slippery slope imho.


Then, before you know it, the thing will be able to perform
the all-important FOH skill of reading charts.

will need some kind of GPS system on board and motorised castors on the
flight case so it can find FOH
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Tim Scott
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

"Tim S Kemp" <news@timkemp.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:yfidnT5bxqoEdMTeRVnyrA@karoo.co.uk...

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Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving / And
revolving at 900 miles an hour / That's orbiting at 19 miles a second,
so it's reckoned, / A sun that is the source of all our power. / The
sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see, / Are moving at a
million miles a day / In an outer spiral arm, at 40,000 miles an hour,
/ Of the galaxy we call the Milky Way.

no wonder i feel dizzy
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Phildo
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

"Bob Urz" <sound@inetnebr.com> wrote in message
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Imagine, arguing with Arny live at a show through your console.
The possibilities.

You get an IM pop up - "I'm at the venue on my palmpilot but I can't seem to
find FOH?"

Phildo
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Marc Amsterdam
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:15 am    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:45:42 +0100, "Phildo" <Phil@phildo.net> wrote:

Quote:

"Bob Urz" <sound@inetnebr.com> wrote in message
news:1129945580_139@spool6-east.superfeed.net...
Imagine, arguing with Arny live at a show through your console.
The possibilities.

You get an IM pop up - "I'm at the venue on my palmpilot but I can't seem to
find FOH?"

sure there is a way GPS navigation systems can implement a route to
FOH, tomtom navigation is around the corner here, i'll drop em a
line see if i can get them to make an easter egg in next version :-)




Follow the black/blue/gray hose, if you find a pile of electronic
equipment you never have seen before , no one is going to let you
touch it and it is NOT on the stage you have reached FOH.
Please do not make the usual dumd arsed remarks as the FOH engineer
you are seeing now is very alive (not in a newsgroup) tired, grumpy
and probably a very strong man too.




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Phildo
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Tim Scott
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:21 am    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

"Marc Amsterdam" <reply@newsgroup.only> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:45:42 +0100, "Phildo" <Phil@phildo.net> wrote:


"Bob Urz" <sound@inetnebr.com> wrote in message
news:1129945580_139@spool6-east.superfeed.net...
Imagine, arguing with Arny live at a show through your console.
The possibilities.

You get an IM pop up - "I'm at the venue on my palmpilot but I can't seem
to
find FOH?"

sure there is a way GPS navigation systems can implement a route to
FOH, tomtom navigation is around the corner here, i'll drop em a
line see if i can get them to make an easter egg in next version :-)




Follow the black/blue/gray hose, if you find a pile of electronic
equipment you never have seen before , no one is going to let you
touch it and it is NOT on the stage you have reached FOH.
Please do not make the usual dumd arsed remarks as the FOH engineer
you are seeing now is very alive (not in a newsgroup) tired, grumpy
and probably a very strong man too.

Do you really know what all those buttons do?
Do you have any gaffer tape/a pen i can borrow
Can you get me backstage?
How many watts is your system?
Do you do this for a job?
What happens if I press this button?
Does it have to be this loud?
Can you make an announcement?
Are you the DJ? Can you play ....?
Can you turn the bass up?
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Marc Amsterdam
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:42 am    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 23:21:08 +0100, "Tim Scott"
<timscott18@nospamplease.spamarrest.com> wrote:

Quote:

"Marc Amsterdam" <reply@newsgroup.only> wrote in message
news:i92ol1pcjslu6hbm7mcc3o5j3j68bata2h@4ax.com...
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 14:45:42 +0100, "Phildo" <Phil@phildo.net> wrote:


"Bob Urz" <sound@inetnebr.com> wrote in message
news:1129945580_139@spool6-east.superfeed.net...
Imagine, arguing with Arny live at a show through your console.
The possibilities.

You get an IM pop up - "I'm at the venue on my palmpilot but I can't seem
to
find FOH?"

sure there is a way GPS navigation systems can implement a route to
FOH, tomtom navigation is around the corner here, i'll drop em a
line see if i can get them to make an easter egg in next version :-)




Follow the black/blue/gray hose, if you find a pile of electronic
equipment you never have seen before , no one is going to let you
touch it and it is NOT on the stage you have reached FOH.
Please do not make the usual dumd arsed remarks as the FOH engineer
you are seeing now is very alive (not in a newsgroup) tired, grumpy
and probably a very strong man too.

Do you really know what all those buttons do?

NO i'm the fucking driver, the sound man ruined my lorry last night so
now i'm doing his sound

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Do you have any gaffer tape/a pen i can borrow

you'l find it up your glitter if you ask me again

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Can you get me backstage?

only if your a girl and willing to perform naked right now AND i like
it

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How many watts is your system?

....

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Do you do this for a job?

no i run a chicken farm during the day

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What happens if I press this button?

the lights go out

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Does it have to be this loud?

come again?

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Can you make an announcement?

yes but i wont

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Are you the DJ? Can you play ....?

So Arny... finally we meet :-)

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Can you turn the bass up?

yes but it would not be in the interest of the bass players career
as well it would damage mine

>
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mcsteve
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

"Tim Scott" wrote:
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Do you really know what all those buttons do?

What buttons?


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Can you get me backstage?

Is that near FOH?


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How many watts is your system?

It's not my system


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Do you do this for a job?

No, it's more of a "work release" type of deal.


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What happens if I press this button?

I will have that guy over there, in the black shirt

that's says "security", throw your ass out of here.
(True story)

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Does it have to be this loud?

If it's too loud, you're too old.


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Can you turn the bass up?
What's a "bass"?


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Steve M
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Mike
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:43 am    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

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Do you really know what all those buttons do?

Had a teenage kid ask me that at a festival. I politely replied yes.
He looked at me dumbfounded then asked what would happen if he pressed a
button. His dad who was with him said he (the dad) would hit him (the kid)
with a bat.....

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How many watts is your system?

LOL, reminds me of a time when I was asked that question.... Told the
person we didn't mess with little things like watts. When he asked me what
we used I told him MEGA watts. =)

Mike Borkhuis
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Thomas Bishop
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: New EAW and Midas desks? Reply with quote

"Mike" <no_mail@no_spam.com> wrote in message
Quote:
Had a teenage kid ask me that at a festival. I politely replied yes.
He looked at me dumbfounded then asked what would happen if he pressed a
button. His dad who was with him said he (the dad) would hit him (the
kid) with a bat.....


I need that button on my console.
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