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Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:42 am Post subject:
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Dennis Mayer <Polaris1@execpc.com> wrote:
| Quote: | ANTant@zimage.com wrote:
I am thinking of getting a HDTV tuner for my PC. Currently I use a set of rabbit ears to get analog TV with my
ATI Radeon 9800 AIW (128 MB) since I do not subscribe to cable and satellite services.
I read that I can get HDTV feeds with rabbit ears antennae that is designed for HDTV receiption. If this is
true, then what's the best ones to look for from local retail stores? I also looked at http://www.hdtvpub.com/
and couldn't find my city (91745) to see if all local channels would be available.
If I were to do this, would I get all the local channels even if they are not in HDTV? Will all feeds be
clearer than what I have now? Channels 2 (KCBS), 4 (KNBC4), and 5 (KTLA) are not clear. Others can be very
clear if I adjust the antennae.
Thank you in advance. :)
For HDTV OTA (over the air antenna) reception usually requires a UHF
antenna.
I tend to believe in 4 bay bow tie ($25) or twice as big 8 bay bow
tie ($50)
by Channel Master... The 4 bay outdoor unit can be put in a closet
or attic.
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| Quote: | I've seen a 2 bay bow tie ($20 & gold in color & indoor) from Radio
Shack...
but have never tried it...
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These appear to be outdoor antennae. Are there any indoor ones I can use?
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Del Mibbler
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:26 am Post subject:
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ANTant@zimage.com wrote (in part):
| Quote: | I was told that I need an outdoor antennae and not rabbit
ears type in the other reply in this thread. This might be a problem since
I cannot place one outside the house. :( I am upstair (second floor)
though.
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First, you need to know what stations you're dealing with. Someone
else posted the AntennaWeb list for your area, but you should visit
the site yourself (www.antennaweb.org) and plug in your Zip+4 to get
the listing for your house (don't forget to uncheck the boxes that say
it's OK to spam your address). You can also see a map centered on
your location showing the direction and distance to the transmitters.
The listing and map can be filtered to show analog only, digital only
or both. Look for analog UHF stations at the same location as your
digitals.
If you're getting good reception (even with light snow or light
ghosts) on UHF analog stations broadcasting from the same location as
your digitals, then you probably can use your existing antenna.
Rabbit ears can be used for UHF; just shorten the elements. Or an
inexpensive loop antenna (you could even make your own for a test, but
they're so cheap you might better buy one). Next step up is the
Zenith Silver Sensor, about $20-25 mail order, or Sears will sell you
one for $40. Works very well for an indoor UHF antenna. Finally, a
2- or 4-bay bowtie. These are outdoor antennas, but they don't take
up much room and can often be used indoors. I don't think you need to
go to that extreme, especially since you seem to be doing OK with
rabbit ears except on low VHF channels. All your digitals appear to
be UHF.
If your house is encased in metal (aluminum siding, foil-faced
insulation, metal window screens) you might have a problem. Best bet
in that case, if a window faces the transmitters, is to replace the
screen with a plastic one and mount the antenna at the window. Try to
keep any indoor antenna away from where people walk (especially rabbit
ears and loops) because a person near the antenna can throw the
reception off.
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
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Ah cool. :) I heard it is either you get a picture or you don't. Is that
true?
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True but not usually accurate. If you've ever seen pictures on a slide
projector you have an idea how it can be. The thing is this has to be fairly
bad to be a problem but if you lose more than a little audio most things
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
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jjnemoiii <jjnemoiii.1xa5x0@satelliteguys.us> wrote:
Thanks!!
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:41 am Post subject:
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Del Mibbler <mibbler@large> wrote:
| Quote: | ANTant@zimage.com wrote (in part):
I was told that I need an outdoor antennae and not rabbit
ears type in the other reply in this thread. This might be a problem since
I cannot place one outside the house. :( I am upstair (second floor)
though.
First, you need to know what stations you're dealing with. Someone
else posted the AntennaWeb list for your area, but you should visit
the site yourself (www.antennaweb.org) and plug in your Zip+4 to get
the listing for your house (don't forget to uncheck the boxes that say
it's OK to spam your address). You can also see a map centered on
your location showing the direction and distance to the transmitters.
The listing and map can be filtered to show analog only, digital only
or both. Look for analog UHF stations at the same location as your
digitals.
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Here are my results with the extra four digits:
* yellow - uhf KVEA-DT 39 TEL CORONA CA TBD 322 17.1 39
* yellow - uhf KTBN-DT 23.1 TBN SANTA ANA CA 323 17.8 23
* yellow - uhf KTLA-DT 5.1 WB LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 31
* yellow - uhf KWHY-DT 22.1 IND LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 42
* yellow - uhf KRCA-DT 62.1 IND RIVERSIDE CA 322 17.1 68
* yellow - uhf KPXN-DT 30.1 i SAN BERNARDINO CA 322 17.1 38
* yellow - uhf KSCI-DT 18.1 IND LONG BEACH CA 322 17.1 61
* yellow - uhf KOCE-DT 50.1 PBS HUNTINGTON BEACH CA 323 18.0 48
* yellow - uhf KDOC-DT 56.1 IND ANAHEIM CA 323 18.1 32
* yellow - uhf KTTV-DT 11.1 FOX LOS ANGELES CA 323 17.8 65
* yellow - uhf KMEX-DT 34.1 UNI LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.1 35
* yellow - uhf KCAL-DT 9.1 IND LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.1 43
* yellow - uhf KCBS-DT 2.1 CBS LOS ANGELES CA 322 18.5 60
* yellow - uhf KNBC-DT 4.1 NBC LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 36
* yellow - uhf KJLA-DT 57.1 IND VENTURA CA 323 18.0 49
* yellow - uhf KLCS-DT 58.1 PBS LOS ANGELES CA 323 17.8 41
* yellow - uhf KCET-DT 28.1 PBS LOS ANGELES CA 323 17.8 59
* yellow - uhf KCOP-DT 13.1 UPN LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.1 66
* yellow - uhf KFTR-DT 46.1 TFA ONTARIO CA 12-05 323 18.0 29
* yellow - uhf KAZA-DT 54.1 AZA AVALON CA TBD 323 18.0 47
* yellow - uhf KABC-DT 7.1 ABC LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.1 53
green - uhf KCET 28 PBS LOS ANGELES CA 323 17.8 28
green - uhf KAZA 54 AZA AVALON CA 323 18.0 54
green - uhf KLCS 58 PBS LOS ANGELES CA 323 17.8 58
green - uhf KMEX 34 UNI LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 34
green - uhf KDOC 56 IND ANAHEIM CA 323 18.0 56
green - uhf KOCE 50 PBS HUNTINGTON BEACH CA 323 18.0 50
green - uhf KRCA 62 IND RIVERSIDE CA 322 17.1 62
green - uhf KXLA 44 IND RANCHO PALOS VERDES CA 323 18.0 44
* green - uhf KXLA-DT 44.1 IND RANCHO PALOS VERDES CA 323 18.1 51
lt green - uhf KSCI 18 IND LONG BEACH CA 322 17.1 18
lt green - uhf KPXN 30 i SAN BERNARDINO CA 31 19.5 30
lt green - uhf KWHY 22 IND LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 22
lt green - vhf KTLA 5 WB LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 5
lt green - uhf KVEA 52 TEL CORONA CA 322 17.1 52
lt green - uhf KTBN 40 TBN SANTA ANA CA 323 17.8 40
lt green - vhf KTTV 11 FOX LOS ANGELES CA 323 17.8 11
lt green - vhf KCAL 9 IND LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.1 9
lt green - vhf KNBC 4 NBC LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 4
lt green - vhf KCBS 2 CBS LOS ANGELES CA 322 18.5 2
lt green - uhf KFTR 46 TFA LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.1 46
lt green - vhf KCOP 13 UPN LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.1 13
lt green - vhf KABC 7 ABC LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.1 7
blue - uhf KSMV-LP 33 IND SIMI VALLEY CA 323 18.0 33
* blue - uhf KVMD-DT 23.1 IND TWENTYNINE PALMS CA 73 64.6 23
violet - uhf K27DS 27 ABC YUCCA VALLEY CA 73 64.6 27
violet - uhf KVCR 24 PBS SAN BERNARDINO CA 78 37.5 24
violet - uhf K69CO 69 PBS RUNNING SPRINGS CA 60 53.8 69
Most of the channels are coming from North West direction. Five are from East side. I guess this
list looks good.
| Quote: | If you're getting good reception (even with light snow or light
ghosts) on UHF analog stations broadcasting from the same location as
your digitals, then you probably can use your existing antenna.
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Ah cool. :) I heard it is either you get a picture or you don't. Is that
true? So, these fuzzy pictures on channels 2, 4, and 5 will be good in
HDTV.
| Quote: | Rabbit ears can be used for UHF; just shorten the elements. Or an
inexpensive loop antenna (you could even make your own for a test, but
they're so cheap you might better buy one). Next step up is the
Zenith Silver Sensor, about $20-25 mail order, or Sears will sell you
one for $40. Works very well for an indoor UHF antenna. Finally, a
2- or 4-bay bowtie. These are outdoor antennas, but they don't take
up much room and can often be used indoors. I don't think you need to
go to that extreme, especially since you seem to be doing OK with
rabbit ears except on low VHF channels. All your digitals appear to
be UHF.
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Good sign. :)
| Quote: | If your house is encased in metal (aluminum siding, foil-faced
insulation, metal window screens) you might have a problem. Best bet
in that case, if a window faces the transmitters, is to replace the
screen with a plastic one and mount the antenna at the window. Try to
keep any indoor antenna away from where people walk (especially rabbit
ears and loops) because a person near the antenna can throw the
reception off.
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This house is pretty much wooden on a hill edge. :)
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Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject:
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In article <5JD6f.69349$Hs.22608@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>,
"T Shadow" <knone@zilch.com.invalid> wrote:
| Quote: | Ah cool. :) I heard it is either you get a picture or you don't. Is that
true?
True but not usually accurate. If you've ever seen pictures on a slide
projector you have an idea how it can be.
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THAT'S not accurate.
What's accurate is to think of it in terms of a modern cell phone. No
static, true--just constant cutouts because a bird flew by 5 miles away.
Or your wife is moving around in the kitchen.
Get a good, very tall, outdoor antenna. OTA reception of digital sucks. |
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Del Mibbler
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:00 am Post subject:
Re: Over the air for HDTV newbie questions |
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ANTant@zimage.com wrote (in part):
| Quote: | Del Mibbler <mibbler@large> wrote:
If you're getting good reception (even with light snow or light
ghosts) on UHF analog stations broadcasting from the same location as
your digitals, then you probably can use your existing antenna.
Ah cool. :) I heard it is either you get a picture or you don't. Is that
true? So, these fuzzy pictures on channels 2, 4, and 5 will be good in
HDTV.
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Almost certainly true. If your reception is poor only on 2, 4 and 5
(all low VHF) and you have good reception on most UHF channels (14 and
up) your current antenna system should work well for digital. If not,
a minor upgrade (indoor antenna) should do it. You're fortunate that
all your stations (except a few distant ones you probably don't care
about) are in the same direction.
Yes, with digital either you have an excellent picture or none at all,
except for the narrow range where the signal is wavering above and
below the amount you need. Then you'll sometimes have a picture,
sometimes not, and a lot of pixelation (the picture breaks up into
large digital blocks) accompanied by audio dropouts and clicks.
Digital brings a new set of problems including pixelation on
rapidly-changing scenes (a stronger signal won't help there) and
intermittent lip-sync errors that may or may not be receiver-related
(sometimes it's broadcast out of sync).
A few selections from your list, edited for content and formatted to
fit my screen:
| Quote: | KCBS 02 CBS LOS ANGELES CA 322 18.5 02
KCBS-DT 02.1 CBS LOS ANGELES CA 322 18.5 60
KNBC 04 NBC LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 04
KNBC-DT 04.1 NBC LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 36
KTLA 05 WB LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 05
KTLA-DT 05.1 WB LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 31
KCET 28 PBS LOS ANGELES CA 323 17.8 28
KLCS 58 PBS LOS ANGELES CA 323 17.8 58
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Note that the digital versions of your problem channels 2, 4 and 5 are
on channels 60, 36 and 31 respectively. Also, you have analog PBS
channels on 28 and 58, essentially the same frequency range. If you
can get those two fairly well you should have no problem. Since they
serve the same area, KLCS might be low power or spot beamed.
You asked in another message if you could go back and forth between
digital and analog. Certainly. Many digital tuners incorporate
analog tuners and the digital and analog stations may be mixed
together in the tuner's guide if it has one. Pick a channel and the
tuner does the switching. Alternatively, your display is sure to have
traditional analog inputs (composite, maybe S-Video) so you can
connect a VCR to one of them and use it as an analog tuner. Older HD
displays had analog but not digital tuners; newer ones are supposed to
have both or neither.
But understand that it's like asking, "If I get a washing machine, can
I still wash my clothes with a scrub board down at the river?" Well,
yes, but . . .
| Quote: | This house is pretty much wooden on a hill edge. :)
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Hope that's not one of those hill edges that suddenly become part of
the beach. Oh, you did say you're east of LA. So you're more likely
to get burned over every summer.
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:01 am Post subject:
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Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
| Quote: | In article <5JD6f.69349$Hs.22608@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>,
"T Shadow" <knone@zilch.com.invalid> wrote:
Ah cool. :) I heard it is either you get a picture or you don't. Is that
true?
True but not usually accurate. If you've ever seen pictures on a slide
projector you have an idea how it can be.
THAT'S not accurate.
What's accurate is to think of it in terms of a modern cell phone. No
static, true--just constant cutouts because a bird flew by 5 miles away.
Or your wife is moving around in the kitchen.
Get a good, very tall, outdoor antenna. OTA reception of digital sucks.
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I know that, but I am quite limited for that. Indoor is the best I can do.
I put an indoor near the window if that help.
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:11 am Post subject:
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Del Mibbler <mibbler@large.net> wrote:
| Quote: | ANTant@zimage.com wrote (in part):
Del Mibbler <mibbler@large> wrote:
If you're getting good reception (even with light snow or light
ghosts) on UHF analog stations broadcasting from the same location as
your digitals, then you probably can use your existing antenna.
Ah cool. :) I heard it is either you get a picture or you don't. Is that
true? So, these fuzzy pictures on channels 2, 4, and 5 will be good in
HDTV.
Almost certainly true. If your reception is poor only on 2, 4 and 5
(all low VHF) and you have good reception on most UHF channels (14 and
up) your current antenna system should work well for digital. If not,
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Most channels above 14 seem fine, but then I rarely watch those channels.
The most current analog ones I watch are 4, 5, 7, 9, and 11 so far. Once
in a while 28 and 50 for PBS stuff.
| Quote: | a minor upgrade (indoor antenna) should do it. You're fortunate that
all your stations (except a few distant ones you probably don't care
about) are in the same direction.
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That's interesting. I still had to move my rabbit ear antennae. Not all
stations get clear pictures in the same positions/angles. This is true
for downstair and upstair floors.
| Quote: | Yes, with digital either you have an excellent picture or none at all,
except for the narrow range where the signal is wavering above and
below the amount you need. Then you'll sometimes have a picture,
sometimes not, and a lot of pixelation (the picture breaks up into
large digital blocks) accompanied by audio dropouts and clicks.
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Ahh.
| Quote: | Digital brings a new set of problems including pixelation on
rapidly-changing scenes (a stronger signal won't help there) and
intermittent lip-sync errors that may or may not be receiver-related
(sometimes it's broadcast out of sync).
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Yeah, that can be annoying. I'd rather have fuzzy pictures instead of
nothing! Hence why I still need an option to be able to revert back to
analog of HDTV has issues.
| Quote: | A few selections from your list, edited for content and formatted to
fit my screen:
KCBS 02 CBS LOS ANGELES CA 322 18.5 02
KCBS-DT 02.1 CBS LOS ANGELES CA 322 18.5 60
KNBC 04 NBC LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 04
KNBC-DT 04.1 NBC LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 36
KTLA 05 WB LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 05
KTLA-DT 05.1 WB LOS ANGELES CA 323 18.0 31
KCET 28 PBS LOS ANGELES CA 323 17.8 28
KLCS 58 PBS LOS ANGELES CA 323 17.8 58
Note that the digital versions of your problem channels 2, 4 and 5 are
on channels 60, 36 and 31 respectively. Also, you have analog PBS
channels on 28 and 58, essentially the same frequency range. If you
can get those two fairly well you should have no problem. Since they
serve the same area, KLCS might be low power or spot beamed.
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PBS channels are clear when I checked a few minutes ago to be sure since
I rarely watch them. 2 is totally fuzzy (unwatchable).
| Quote: | You asked in another message if you could go back and forth between
digital and analog. Certainly. Many digital tuners incorporate
analog tuners and the digital and analog stations may be mixed
together in the tuner's guide if it has one. Pick a channel and the
tuner does the switching. Alternatively, your display is sure to have
traditional analog inputs (composite, maybe S-Video) so you can
connect a VCR to one of them and use it as an analog tuner. Older HD
displays had analog but not digital tuners; newer ones are supposed to
have both or neither.
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Interesting. I hope HDTV tuner card for PC will let me do this. I haven't
decided on which one to get yet.
| Quote: | But understand that it's like asking, "If I get a washing machine, can
I still wash my clothes with a scrub board down at the river?" Well,
yes, but . . .
This house is pretty much wooden on a hill edge. :)
Hope that's not one of those hill edges that suddenly become part of
the beach. Oh, you did say you're east of LA. So you're more likely
to get burned over every summer.
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Far away from the beach. Yes, it gets hot. So hot it can be 85 degrees(F)
in my room! Ack!
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Del Mibbler
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
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ANTant@zimage.com wrote (in part):
| Quote: | Del Mibbler <mibbler@large.net> wrote:
You asked in another message if you could go back and forth between
digital and analog. Certainly. Many digital tuners incorporate
analog tuners and the digital and analog stations may be mixed
together in the tuner's guide if it has one. Pick a channel and the
tuner does the switching.
Interesting. I hope HDTV tuner card for PC will let me do this. I haven't
decided on which one to get yet.
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I'm only familiar with the MyHD MDP-120 and MDP-130. They're similar,
except that the 130 can also handle unscrambled digital cable (QAM),
which you don't need. Both receive OTA digital and analog stations
and can record them to hard drive (many have reported that the analog
recordings are of poor quality; I've never tried it myself).
Guide-based recordings depend on the TitanTV web site, or you can just
set by channel and start and end times.
MyHD cards have their own output so don't depend on the capabilities
of your video card. And they don't tax the CPU much as other cards
do. But they do require Windows (XP preferred) and special features
like MCE, hyperthreading and video cards optimized for gaming are no
help, and some are hindrances. If you want a super gaming computer, I
recommend buying or building one to your specs and using your old one
for HDTV.
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
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Del Mibbler <mibbler@large.net> wrote:
| Quote: | ANTant@zimage.com wrote (in part):
Del Mibbler <mibbler@large.net> wrote:
You asked in another message if you could go back and forth between
digital and analog. Certainly. Many digital tuners incorporate
analog tuners and the digital and analog stations may be mixed
together in the tuner's guide if it has one. Pick a channel and the
tuner does the switching.
Interesting. I hope HDTV tuner card for PC will let me do this. I haven't
decided on which one to get yet.
I'm only familiar with the MyHD MDP-120 and MDP-130. They're similar,
except that the 130 can also handle unscrambled digital cable (QAM),
which you don't need. Both receive OTA digital and analog stations
and can record them to hard drive (many have reported that the analog
recordings are of poor quality; I've never tried it myself).
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Are the analog recordings worse than VCR?
| Quote: | Guide-based recordings depend on the TitanTV web site, or you can just
set by channel and start and end times.
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Yeah, I use both online schedulers and manually.
| Quote: | MyHD cards have their own output so don't depend on the capabilities
of your video card. And they don't tax the CPU much as other cards
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Interesting. I was wondering why it costs so much! I am getting a new
NVIDIA card (mostly for games) so the HDTV tuner would be an addon to
my system.
| Quote: | do. But they do require Windows (XP preferred) and special features
like MCE, hyperthreading and video cards optimized for gaming are no
help, and some are hindrances. If you want a super gaming computer, I
recommend buying or building one to your specs and using your old one
for HDTV.
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I have XP Pro. SP2. I am also hoping to use it under Linux as well.
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Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:30 pm Post subject:
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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 19:23:18 -0500, ANTant wrote:
| Quote: | I have XP Pro. SP2. I am also hoping to use it under Linux as well.
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If you're planing on using it under Linux might want to have a look here.
http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_cards
Someone sent this link to me after I ordered the Fusion HDTV5 Gold card.
Hope to have the card in a couple of days.
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Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:51 pm Post subject:
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ANTant@zimage.com wrote:
I was going to get UHF Dual HDTV Indoor Antenna, but it is out of stock!
Also, stores don't have it according to its link. Anywhere else? It doesn't
seem to have model # or brand! :(
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