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John Weathers
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 4:40 am    Post subject: Womble and extending a DVD film cut Reply with quote

I own a copy of Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones on DVD and
ever since I first watched the deleted scenes, I have been wishing that
there was some way that I could create my own personal version with
most of the deleted material edited back into the film.

I tried doing this earlier this year, but I got frustrated and gave up.
Recently, I have been trying again.

So here's what I have done so far:
1) I have used DVDDecrypter in file mode to rip the muxed VOB's to my
hard drive from both Disc 1 (The movie) and Disc 2 (the extras
including the deleted scenes)

2) I have downloaded Womble and am trying to edit things together.

At first, things appeared to be going quite smoothly. I created a clip
of the film up to the first insertion point, created a clip of the
first deleted scene, and then edited them together with a horizontal
line transition. Everything looked great in the output preview.

Before moving on to insert other scenes, I decided to produce an MPEG-2
file and see if eveything looked good in the "final" product so to
speak.

To my dismay, the resulting MPEG-2 is missing several frames of video
and audio. The film moves along nicely to a certain point before the
transition, then abruptly skips ahead several seconds to a point a few
seconds before my transition and then smoothly makes the transition
into my deleted scene where everything is normal afterwards. Why am I
losing footage that comes before my transition starts?

Am I going about this the wrong way?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

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Netmask
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: Womble and extending a DVD film cut Reply with quote

Have you tried just to do a plain cut?
Try it and see if the same error occurs.
Have you checked the file properties of the original and new insert files?
(right click on the track in the timeline) Are they the same?
Are you editing a single track (video with audio) or have you demuxed the
track to give you a separate video and audio track?

"John Weathers" <johnweathers@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
I own a copy of Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones on DVD and
ever since I first watched the deleted scenes, I have been wishing that
there was some way that I could create my own personal version with
most of the deleted material edited back into the film.

I tried doing this earlier this year, but I got frustrated and gave up.
Recently, I have been trying again.

So here's what I have done so far:
1) I have used DVDDecrypter in file mode to rip the muxed VOB's to my
hard drive from both Disc 1 (The movie) and Disc 2 (the extras
including the deleted scenes)

2) I have downloaded Womble and am trying to edit things together.

At first, things appeared to be going quite smoothly. I created a clip
of the film up to the first insertion point, created a clip of the
first deleted scene, and then edited them together with a horizontal
line transition. Everything looked great in the output preview.

Before moving on to insert other scenes, I decided to produce an MPEG-2
file and see if eveything looked good in the "final" product so to
speak.

To my dismay, the resulting MPEG-2 is missing several frames of video
and audio. The film moves along nicely to a certain point before the
transition, then abruptly skips ahead several seconds to a point a few
seconds before my transition and then smoothly makes the transition
into my deleted scene where everything is normal afterwards. Why am I
losing footage that comes before my transition starts?

Am I going about this the wrong way?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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John Weathers
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Womble and extending a DVD film cut Reply with quote

I'm editing a single track as I ran into other problems when I tried to
demux the files and then import them. Yes, even with no transition the
strange frame loss occurred.

However, I have managed to get around the problem by telling DVD
Decrypter to decrypt into lots of little .VOB files separated by the
VOB IDs on the DVD. Then, I take these smaller parts and put them
together and things appear to work.

The only thing that I can think of is that two of the smaller VOB files
turned out to be foreign language versions of the Star Wars scrolling
text. Naturally, I do not include them now, but when I had the larger
single VOB file I was including them in a manner.

As long as things continue to work, then I will really only face two
problems: my surround sound will vanish if I use any transitions (and I
must if things are to look and sound natural) and my subtitles for
aliens are now missing.
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Netmask
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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: Womble and extending a DVD film cut Reply with quote

Methinks you need to completely rip both DVD's down to their constituent
elements, mpeg files, and subtitle files and then use a program like DVD
lab-pro or DVD composer in conjunction with Subtitle workshop - not an easy
project but you can't preserve subs in Womble, it's basically a simple mpeg
editor. You might try simply changing the suffix of the vobs into .mpg and
then import them into Womble and see what happens. Export as mpeg program
files.

"John Weathers" <johnweathers@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
I'm editing a single track as I ran into other problems when I tried to
demux the files and then import them. Yes, even with no transition the
strange frame loss occurred.

However, I have managed to get around the problem by telling DVD
Decrypter to decrypt into lots of little .VOB files separated by the
VOB IDs on the DVD. Then, I take these smaller parts and put them
together and things appear to work.

The only thing that I can think of is that two of the smaller VOB files
turned out to be foreign language versions of the Star Wars scrolling
text. Naturally, I do not include them now, but when I had the larger
single VOB file I was including them in a manner.

As long as things continue to work, then I will really only face two
problems: my surround sound will vanish if I use any transitions (and I
must if things are to look and sound natural) and my subtitles for
aliens are now missing.
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