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Simon
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
Allen and Heath Mix Wizard backup power |
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Does anyone here use the backup power option on there Mix Wizards ? I
can't find any information about it on the Allen and Heath website.
Anyone know any specifics about it ? Can the board be run for long
times on this power input or is designed for short term use only ? Do
you retain full functionality of the board ? Specificaly will it
continue to output a true 48V phantom power on the backup power ?
Any info or links to info would be appreciated.
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TimPerry
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
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"George Gleason" <Bmoas@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | With a traditional desk I see no need for a barrery back up system
I don't see the advantage of have your desk working while the rest of the
AC is out?
Only with life saftey and digital products would I see the UPS as worthy
of
the cost to implment it
George
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the A & H backup is a redundant power supply in case of failure of the main.
no batteries included :) see RPS11 its a 3 space 300W PSU that costs
about $1000 USD
it used to be pretty common for recording, large live, and broadcast
consoles to have dual supplies. i don't see it often these days. |
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Chris W
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
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I don't have specific info but if you mean dual redundant supplies then
it's always the case the full functionality is available ( as long as
*both* supplies don't fail ) !
Seems to me that ppl like the idea of the option but rarely use it.
Graham
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....I don't ever do gigs without dual supplies...in fact, I get nervous
without a switcher between them.
Chris |
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George Gleason
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
Re: Allen and Heath Mix Wizard backup power |
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With a traditional desk I see no need for a barrery back up system
I don't see the advantage of have your desk working while the rest of the
AC is out?
Only with life saftey and digital products would I see the UPS as worthy of
the cost to implment it
George |
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TimPerry
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
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"Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Simon wrote:
Does anyone here use the backup power option on there Mix Wizards ? I
can't find any information about it on the Allen and Heath website.
Anyone know any specifics about it ? Can the board be run for long
times on this power input or is designed for short term use only ? Do
you retain full functionality of the board ? Specificaly will it
continue to output a true 48V phantom power on the backup power ?
Any info or links to info would be appreciated.
I don't have specific info but if you mean dual redundant supplies then
it's always the case the full functionality is available ( as long as
*both* supplies don't fail ) !
Seems to me that ppl like the idea of the option but rarely use it.
Graham
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say you are doing an outdoor gig in the Mojave desert or Las Vegas or
similar you might want an external PSU in a rack with a fan on it.
ambient temps are near or past the ratings of much equipment and direct
sunlight just cooks it. |
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Pooh Bear
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Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:42 am Post subject:
Re: Allen and Heath Mix Wizard backup power |
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Simon wrote:
| Quote: | Does anyone here use the backup power option on there Mix Wizards ? I
can't find any information about it on the Allen and Heath website.
Anyone know any specifics about it ? Can the board be run for long
times on this power input or is designed for short term use only ? Do
you retain full functionality of the board ? Specificaly will it
continue to output a true 48V phantom power on the backup power ?
Any info or links to info would be appreciated.
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I don't have specific info but if you mean dual redundant supplies then
it's always the case the full functionality is available ( as long as
*both* supplies don't fail ) !
Seems to me that ppl like the idea of the option but rarely use it.
Graham |
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Simon
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:06 am Post subject:
Re: Allen and Heath Mix Wizard backup power |
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thanks for all the responses.
I mistakenly thought the backup power socket on the back of the mix
wizard was some form of battery backup input. I take it from these
posts, it is not.
I was hoping to be able to power the mix wizard with dc power for some
remote location recordings.
Anyone know of any 4 bus mixers like the mix wizard that can be DC
powered ? without getting into the high prices of the Coopers or PSC
mixers.
P.S. I know i can always just run an inverter, but i was hoping to
avoid that. |
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shannon
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:31 am Post subject:
Re: Allen and Heath Mix Wizard backup power |
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Simon wrote:
| Quote: | thanks for all the responses.
I mistakenly thought the backup power socket on the back of the mix
wizard was some form of battery backup input. I take it from these
posts, it is not.
I was hoping to be able to power the mix wizard with dc power for some
remote location recordings.
Anyone know of any 4 bus mixers like the mix wizard that can be DC
powered ? without getting into the high prices of the Coopers or PSC
mixers.
P.S. I know i can always just run an inverter, but i was hoping to
avoid that.
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There is a battery powered Behringer, the Eurorack MXB1002
Soundcraft make a location recording console, the LM1
I've run an old school Midas on + - 12V car batteries in an emergency,
you might be able to do that with a MW |
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Phildo
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:27 am Post subject:
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"TimPerry" <timperry@noaspamadelphia.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | it used to be pretty common for recording, large live, and broadcast
consoles to have dual supplies. i don't see it often these days.
I still see a lot of large touring live desks with 2 PSUs. My PM1D has two |
as well.
Did you ever hear about the guy who rented a Midas from Brit Row and
connected the power supply link socket to the meter bridge socket on the
desk (they use the same connectors) then called them up and said "Your desk
isn't working and there's smoke coming out of it" !!!
Wonder if he was related to Arny?
Phildo |
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hank alrich
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:37 pm Post subject:
Re: Allen and Heath Mix Wizard backup power |
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Phildo wrote:
| Quote: | "Simon" wrote...
Anyone know of any 4 bus mixers like the mix wizard that can be DC
powered ? without getting into the high prices of the Coopers or PSC
mixers.
Behringer make the MXB1002 which is battery powered. Not familiar with it so
am unsure if it is 4 bus or not.
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It's stereo out plus two auxes. I have only the spec sheet here not the
full manual, so I don't know if those auxes are fixed pre and post
fader. I don't see switches in the picture, so I suspect they might be.
The spec descriptions are somewhat wonky in parts, too. They state two
mono channels, and the unit shows five XLR's. While I assume all those
XLR's can feed mic preamps, it doesn't explicitly say that.
Overall it has pretty good specs. Not sure I'm thrilled with the
midrange EQ point of 700 Hz.
I'm looking at maybe using one of these with my Klein & Hummel TRA100
for full battery operability in some situations.
--
ha |
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Tim Scott
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:28 pm Post subject:
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"Phildo" <Phil@phildo.net> wrote in message
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"TimPerry" <timperry@noaspamadelphia.net> wrote in message
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it used to be pretty common for recording, large live, and broadcast
consoles to have dual supplies. i don't see it often these days.
I still see a lot of large touring live desks with 2 PSUs. My PM1D has two
as well.
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And they are on their own UPS |
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Tim Scott
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Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject:
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"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
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Direct strong sunlight will 'cook' the gear and internal
temps will easily rise above that 40C. Consider how hot
the interior of a car gets when parked in the sun in
summer. Even in the UK I've known temps of nearly 50C to
occur.
"MythBusters" just did some tests on black and white cars parked in the
San Francisco area which has pretty moderate temps. My recollection is
that they came up with something under 120 degrees F for the white car
and about 10 degrees hotter for the black one.
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Was the white car completely white, including the interior, or was the
interior of a dark colour? |
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Arny Krueger
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Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:47 am Post subject:
Re: Allen and Heath Mix Wizard backup power |
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"Tim Scott" <tim.scott@nospamplease.orange.net> wrote in
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| Quote: | "Arny Krueger" <arnyk@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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"Pooh Bear" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com
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Direct strong sunlight will 'cook' the gear and internal
temps will easily rise above that 40C. Consider how hot
the interior of a car gets when parked in the sun in
summer. Even in the UK I've known temps of nearly 50C to
occur.
"MythBusters" just did some tests on black and white
cars parked in the San Francisco area which has pretty
moderate temps. My recollection is that they came up
with something under 120 degrees F for the white car
and about 10 degrees hotter for the black one.
Was the white car completely white, including the
interior, or was the interior of a dark colour?
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My recollection is that the white car was all white and the
black car was all black. |
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