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Bob
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Recovering file from failed recording? Reply with quote

On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 03:45:01 GMT, bv@wjv.com (Bill Vermillion) wrote:

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I did not know the eval version was crippled.

It's not crippled - but the upgrade version just has a lot more
features.

Where I come from, that's called crippled.

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Phil Wheeler
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Recovering file from failed recording? Reply with quote

Bill Vermillion wrote:
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In article <434efd5e.99387734@news-server.houston.rr.com>,
Bob <spam@uce.gov> wrote:

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:55:01 GMT, bv@wjv.com (Bill Vermillion) wrote:


I use ISO-Buster to recover. I liked what the limited version did
so well I bought the $29 upgrade.


I did not know the eval version was crippled.


It's not crippled - but the upgrade version just has a lot more
features.


So what would it take to make it "crippled" in your evaluation?
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Phil Wheeler
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Recovering file from failed recording? Reply with quote

Serial # 19781010 wrote:
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:35:27 +0100, Paul Hyett
pah@nojunkmailplease.co.uk> wrote:


Also the Pioneer has some other features that are very nice like a
variable bit rate that allows you to set the recording time in 5 min
increments
......


a total of 32 different recording times between 1hr and 6hrs.
Quote:

Also it has the ability to setup input filters so you can use either
preset filters or user defined filters

You can set VNR (video noise reduction)
Amount of detail to retain
Black level
Hue
Chroma
and more.

These act at hardware level directly on the input before anything is
recorded. It's very nice for someone like myself who has recorded a
lot of old movies with a lot of flaws in them. Often using the filters
the resulting DVD looks better than the orignal tapes.


I have a low end Sony (ES10) which has worked well for me; think I paid
around $170 for it at a COSTCO. Not all the above bells and whistles,
but it does let you set the record time, to the minute, to match the
length of the program you are recording -- giving great flexibility in
that area.

Quote:
Does the above come in a HD version, too?


Yes it goes for about 350 bucks-I forget the model number.


So far I've mostly recorded older movies from TCM, focusing on those
that are not letterbox. One limit of mine is that it will not record
16:9, except apparently on DVD-RAM -- which I'd rather not use. Despite
limitations, I'm very happy with it as a "starter" recorder.

I suspect I will eventually want an HD recorder, since I have an HD 16:9
monitor and 10-12 HD cable channels. But unfortunately the HD channels
often screw with the formats of movies (e.g., take a 2.35:1 film and
chop the ends so it fits on a 16:9 screen with no top-bottom borders.

Are there any good web sites with reviews of HD recorders?

Phil
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Paul Hyett
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Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 10:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Recovering file from failed recording? Reply with quote

In rec.video.dvd.tech on Sat, 15 Oct 2005, Phil Wheeler wrote :
Quote:

Does the above come in a HD version, too?


Yes it goes for about 350 bucks-I forget the model number.


So far I've mostly recorded older movies from TCM, focusing on those
that are not letterbox. One limit of mine is that it will not record
16:9, except apparently on DVD-RAM -- which I'd rather not use. Despite
limitations, I'm very happy with it as a "starter" recorder.

I suspect I will eventually want an HD recorder, since I have an HD 16:9
monitor and 10-12 HD cable channels. But unfortunately the HD channels
often screw with the formats of movies

I think we are talking at cross-purposes here - I was referring to Hard
Disc, not High Definition.
--
Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett
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Colon Terminus
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:36 am    Post subject: Re: Recovering file from failed recording? Reply with quote

Uhm ... Bob;

I've had several DVD+RW discs wear out in as few as 12 erase/rewrite cycles.

"Bob" <spam@uce.gov> wrote in message
news:434ea3b6.76436328@news-server.houston.rr.com...
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On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:47:10 -0400, "BigJIm" <woody10277@hotmail.com
wrote:

you cant keep using the rw over and over it will wear out

Just what you would expect to read from a hotmail top-poster.

Don't listen to him. You can erase a DVD +RW a thousand times.

You will wear the DVDR out before you wear out 5 DVD +RW discs.


"AtomicBob" <robert.westbrook@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129207795.701253.316720@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
I have a set-top DVD recorder (Cyberhome DVR-1600) that once in awhile,
when hitting stop at the end of a recording, fails to finish the file
and declares the disk (DVD+RW in this case) to be no good.

This happened to a TV episode I have wanted to capture for a long time
(stupid of me to not concurrently VCR it, I know). The 1600 recorded
the whole 2 hours (in a 3-hour quality mode), but when I hit Stop maybe
5 minutes after the show was over (I like some padding), the recorder
made some drive access noises and then declared the recroding a
failure. But when you look at the disc, you can "see" where the data
was written, and this makes me think that somehow, with the right
tools, the .VOB file might be somehow recoverable. When I put the disc
into my external DVD writer on the computer, it sees nothing, no matter
whether I hook it up to a windows or MacOS machine. But then I haven't
tried any particular file-recovery tools on it.

I'm not gonna erase the DVD+RW until I have exhausted all avenues.

Any ideas if this is possible, and if so, what's the best tool to use?



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Phil Wheeler
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: Recovering file from failed recording? Reply with quote

Paul Hyett wrote:
Quote:
In rec.video.dvd.tech on Sat, 15 Oct 2005, Phil Wheeler wrote :

Does the above come in a HD version, too?


Yes it goes for about 350 bucks-I forget the model number.


So far I've mostly recorded older movies from TCM, focusing on those
that are not letterbox. One limit of mine is that it will not record
16:9, except apparently on DVD-RAM -- which I'd rather not use. Despite
limitations, I'm very happy with it as a "starter" recorder.

I suspect I will eventually want an HD recorder, since I have an HD 16:9
monitor and 10-12 HD cable channels. But unfortunately the HD channels
often screw with the formats of movies


I think we are talking at cross-purposes here - I was referring to Hard
Disc, not High Definition.

Indeed :)
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Phil Wheeler
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:33 am    Post subject: Re: Recovering file from failed recording? Reply with quote

Colon Terminus wrote:
Quote:
Uhm ... Bob;

I've had several DVD+RW discs wear out in as few as 12 erase/rewrite cycles.


Please tell us the brand.

Phil
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Biz
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:40 am    Post subject: Re: Recovering file from failed recording? Reply with quote

"Colon Terminus" <Colon_Terminus@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:DsqdnTixgfX_9czeRVn-pw@adelphia.com...
Quote:

Uhm ... Bob;

I've had several DVD+RW discs wear out in as few as 12 erase/rewrite
cycles.



Ummm, Colon those would be defective media. No, you will probably not get
1000 re-writes out of every -RW, but you should get close to that...have you
bothered to confirm that the disks were completely unusable by returning
them to the manufacturer, or made sure you didnt have a recorder problem?
Were they what have been considered decent media or really cheap stuff?
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Bob
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Recovering file from failed recording? Reply with quote

On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:36:51 -0400, "Colon Terminus"
<Colon_Terminus@hotmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
I've had several DVD+RW discs wear out in as few as 12 erase/rewrite cycles.

Did you full-erase them when they "wore out"?

Nero has a bug, so I use DVD Decrypter to do the full-erase.

What brand of discs were they? More importantly what was the MID.

The tech support guy at Ilo (CyberHome) said that they recommend
Verbatim DVD +RW.
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Bob
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Recovering file from failed recording? Reply with quote

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:15:35 GMT, "Biz" <spamoff@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Quote:
I've had several DVD+RW discs wear out in as few as 12 erase/rewrite
cycles.

Ummm, Colon those would be defective media. No, you will probably not get
1000 re-writes out of every -RW, but you should get close to that...have you
bothered to confirm that the disks were completely unusable by returning
them to the manufacturer, or made sure you didnt have a recorder problem?
Were they what have been considered decent media or really cheap stuff?

You have to match the media to the DVDR.
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Martin van derPoel
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Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Recovering file from failed recording? Reply with quote

Hi,
Try ISObuster.
I had a disk that was not finalized but ISObuster still was able to recover
the VOB file.

Regards,

Martin


"AtomicBob" <robert.westbrook@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129207795.701253.316720@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
I have a set-top DVD recorder (Cyberhome DVR-1600) that once in awhile,
when hitting stop at the end of a recording, fails to finish the file
and declares the disk (DVD+RW in this case) to be no good.

This happened to a TV episode I have wanted to capture for a long time
(stupid of me to not concurrently VCR it, I know). The 1600 recorded
the whole 2 hours (in a 3-hour quality mode), but when I hit Stop maybe
5 minutes after the show was over (I like some padding), the recorder
made some drive access noises and then declared the recroding a
failure. But when you look at the disc, you can "see" where the data
was written, and this makes me think that somehow, with the right
tools, the .VOB file might be somehow recoverable. When I put the disc
into my external DVD writer on the computer, it sees nothing, no matter
whether I hook it up to a windows or MacOS machine. But then I haven't
tried any particular file-recovery tools on it.

I'm not gonna erase the DVD+RW until I have exhausted all avenues.

Any ideas if this is possible, and if so, what's the best tool to use?
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